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76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3
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There's still carb fine tuning to do, but overall, I think hit the mark of being ready for Lammy Day tomorrow.
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chandlerman wrote: There's still carb fine tuning to do, but overall, I think hit the mark of being ready for Lammy Day tomorrow. |
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76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3
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sdjohn wrote: Hearing protection? I think you've elevated safety from 3rd but I approve of saving your hearing. Will you make sure it's jetted safe? Please don't seize!!! But the electrical has already developed a short to ground in the harness, so we know what's next on the repair list. And while I suffered a lot of hearing damage in my youth, I'm really diligent about it now, partly because my ears are really sensitive to loud noises. And believe it or not, that pipe is pretty quiet, too!
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chandlerman wrote: There's still carb fine tuning to do, but overall, I think hit the mark of being ready for Lammy Day tomorrow. |
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So last Thursday I got to look at a P200. Very nice owner and left an offer with him. The next day, he counter offered for more coin than I could put my hands on. So I told a few others about it and moved on. This morning, the owner called and told me three other people came by and none really knew what they were looking at. He told me he liked my passion for the brand and was willing to take my lower offer. I went over to take another look today and shook hands on the deal. I pick it up on Wednesday. A few quick crappy pics with some cowl protectors of the like I have ever seen before. I'll get more up when I get it my garage and cleaned up.
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Getting there with the bodged up Sprint V. One step forward, two steps back. Worst ever motor I have worked on. Whoever worked on it before, definitely apprenticed in Vietnam
![]() ![]() ![]() Cylinder probably origins from the far depths of India. Ports didn't match any gaskets I had, so I had to make one and rings are 1.25mm. Couldn't find any replacements so we stuck with them (ring gap is acceptable)… Clutch got some upgrades and Malossi plates, machined the clutch arm for double o-ring, Pinasco clutch nut and Newfren AntiAqua shoes. Stator rewired, new points, condenser and engine's in the frame… ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Tierney wrote: So last Thursday I got to look at a P200. Very nice owner and left an offer with him. The next day, he counter offered for more coin than I could put my hands on. So I told a few others about it and moved on. This morning, the owner called and told me three other people came by and none really knew what they were looking at. He told me he liked my passion for the brand and was willing to take my lower offer. I went over to take another look today and shook hands on the deal. I pick it up on Wednesday. A few quick crappy pics with some cowl protectors of the like I have ever seen before. I'll get more up when I get it my garage and cleaned up.
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SaFiS wrote: Getting there with the bodged up Sprint V. One step forward, two steps back. Worst ever motor I have worked on. Whoever worked on it before, definitely apprenticed in Vietnam ![]() ![]() ![]() Cylinder probably origins from the far depths of India. Ports didn't match any gaskets I had, so I had to make one and rings are 1.25mm. Couldn't find any replacements so we stuck with them (ring gap is acceptable)… Clutch got some upgrades and Malossi plates, machined the clutch arm for double o-ring, Pinasco clutch nut and Newfren AntiAqua shoes. Stator rewired, new points, condenser and engine's in the frame… |
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Quote: I went over to take another look today and shook hands on the deal. I pick it up on Wednesday. |
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The Vespa color supposedly is Bordeaux. I guessed maroon, maybe burgundy? What do I know? Just want to get it running and ride.
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Tierney wrote: The Vespa color supposedly is Bordeaux. I guessed maroon, maybe burgundy? What do I know? Just want to get it running and ride. |
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SoCalGuy wrote: Right on, Tierney! Looks like a beauty. Way to swoop it up.
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Tierney wrote: ...He told me he liked my passion for the brand and was willing to take my lower offer. I went over to take another look today and shook hands on the deal. ... |
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Tierney wrote: The Vespa color supposedly is Bordeaux. I guessed maroon, maybe burgundy? What do I know? Just want to get it running and ride. ![]() Great job on snagging an awesome scoot in an awesome color! |
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76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3
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Tierney wrote: Pure blind luck on my part. Best part is it is 0.5 mile away. |
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Was sitting at a stop light today and noticed my clutch lever screw slowly rotating. Apparently some idiot forgot to put the nut on the bottom end of it. I'll have to remember not to ride inverted until I fix that.
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DaleB wrote: Was sitting at a stop light today and noticed my clutch lever screw slowly rotating. Apparently some idiot forgot to put the nut on the bottom end of it. I'll have to remember not to ride inverted until I fix that. |
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76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3
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SaFiS wrote: Nyloc nuts and they don't go anywhere… I've been working on everything but Vespa's lately, it seems like. Today, I got a generator running just in time for Band Camp. Mostly just carb cleaning, but it needed it pretty badly. The worst part of tasks like that is the amount of teardown I had to do in order to get the carb out to clean it. I understand making it compact, but it was a giant PITA. Still, it'll be nice to have since it's a camping rally. Then, I took a look at an old 49cc Ruckus that one of my buddies bought for the rally so he doesn't blow up or tear up any of his "real" scoots. Another buddy cleaned the carb, so I didn't have to deal with that, but it didn't want to (kick) start or run well once it turned over. Eventually, I tracked down leaks at the fuel pump, so while I didn't fix anything (it was too hot and I was too tired of working on Other People's Motors), I did figure out the proper series of incantations to get it to start and run reliably. Other than the fuel pump leak and it dripping fuel at a steady pace while it's running, it's about as good as you're going to do with a stock 49cc Ruckus.
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![]() 74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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![]() '64 Motovespa 150S (177) , '65 VBB, '66 Allstate SF, '66 180SS, '58 LD 125 (150)
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WOW!
Looks ace man. So glad to finally see the beauty you have been working on. Very cool. And nice set up for your "booth". |
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Moto64 wrote: It's a long road to getting here but I finally got this done on Tuesday : |
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Moto64 wrote: It's a long road to getting here but I finally got this done on Tuesday : |
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hibbert wrote: Wow that looks great I really like trap headsets. Guessing it's a motovespa. Nice round back frame. |
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Moto64 wrote: Yup. '64 150S with a round tail. Other than the trap, which I dig, it's got all the curves. |
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BajaRob wrote: Your paint job looks outstanding! Looking forward to seeing your scoot all together. Since '74, I have painted eight cars and this is the sixth scooter. Each time I learn something about how far I have to prep and then I forget it and have to learn it all over again. Story of my life. Always an adventure.
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Moto64 wrote: It's a long road to getting here but I finally got this done on Tuesday : |
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I am a lousy painter and always farmed that out. I have patience for the mechanics but not body work and paint. Amazing work, I will be following your build. Kudos!
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hibbert wrote: Nothing beats GS 160 cowls and glove box. Motovespa engine? A peculiar one for sure. I have the original piston-ported 150 motor, all rebuilt, but I found early on that it just wasn't enough for this hilly area so I swapped in an LML ( $800 from Scooterworks) with a DR on it almost 20 years ago. It's going back in with a Malossi.
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Today I found out my old exhaust doesn't need the manifold stub that my new exhaust definitely does need.
I also found out how close the old exhaust gets to my rear tyre. Good news is that when the bits arrive from SIP I'm well practiced in installation. ![]()
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znomit wrote: Today I found out my old exhaust doesn't need the manifold stub that my new exhaust definitely does need. I also found out how close the old exhaust gets to my rear tyre. Good news is that when the bits arrive from SIP I'm well practiced in installation. |
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*grumble*
Well, this might 'splain why dialing in the pilot circuit has been difficult. ![]() Seriously?
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Don't forget the cotter pin and don't let it prick your finger…
And… First time catching it. Body was aching all night, took a morning test. Son of a BIATCH!!! ![]() ![]() ![]()
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final got back in the game after a bit of scooter-time break. Today was finally time to tackle yet another engine rebuild for my ole white P.
About 6mos ago I destroyed the flywheel keyway on the crank. My mechanic (me) was rushing a job to go out on ride, and forgot to torque the flywheel after setting the timing. ![]() This engine is one I did not build myself, nor have I been inside. I pulled it from another project, it ran before, so I ran it; atleast for a bit until my not-so-little mishap. Lets see whats inside. Plan is I'll swap the crank for another off the shelf, replace any wear parts; and we're back in business. ![]() The ole P finally back on the lift
![]() engine out
![]() I love this engine stand! Thanks RAY8!
![]() That'll buff right out
![]() dirty dirty oil, with a few sparkly metal bits. hmmm....
![]() more little sparkly metal on the magnetic drain plug
![]() and more on the fill plug. I run magnets in both fill/drain
![]() more dirty and sparkly...
![]() Split wide open. Too bad about that crank, it was a nice cut inlet crank. Now paperweight.
![]() Easy split. Someones been in here a few times. I knew this already
![]() Something missing...
![]() Piaggio EFL final drive. There was alot of slop in these gears. Probably not shimmed properly initially... Gears are fairly worn, rounded edges, and #2 def need replacing. Shaft looks good.
![]() SIP Ultrastrong Cosa clutch. Running 16 springs, 8L+8XL. Corks are a bit toasty, steels and basket are solid.
![]() A few small chips in this 23tooth gear, probably should replace. Also the brass bush feels sloppy, although it was new only about 1000 miles ago, I'll swap that too.
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![]() 79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 63 VBB (Storm)
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SaFiS wrote: First time catching it. Body was aching all night, took a morning test. Son of a BIATCH!!! |
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Right on GL - I'm particularly impressed with the spotless bench - no accumulated crap - walll-o-wrenches and tat removal tool
![]() Serious though, good one opening up the engine. Smart move, and thanks for the pics and explanation! |
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SaFiS wrote: First time catching it. Body was aching all night, took a morning test. Son of a BIATCH!!! |
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