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Ginch wrote: What carb is that ScooterRaton? ![]() This scooter was one of those things that was just too good a deal to pass up. The wire choke was messed up so I just changed it back to a flip choke. I'll get a few more photos tomorrow if you want. |
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sdjohn wrote: SoCalGuy wrote: Bummer John ... been there, clutchless riding is definitely an adventure. Timing is everything. I do it w/ motor running in neutral, idle set as low as possible. When it's time to go I push the bike as fast as I can then gently drop it into first and rev match best I can to change gears once I'm rolling, very light throttle when changing. Well adjusted shift cables pay off bigtime here. But how are you guys popping launch wheelies? |
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ScooterRaton wrote: Ginch wrote: What carb is that ScooterRaton? ![]() This scooter was one of those things that was just too good a deal to pass up. The wire choke was messed up so I just changed it back to a flip choke. I'll get a few more photos tomorrow if you want. ![]() ⚠️ Last edited by Neurotic-Hapi-Snak on UTC; edited 1 time
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V oodoo wrote: sdjohn wrote: SoCalGuy wrote: Bummer John ... been there, clutchless riding is definitely an adventure. Timing is everything. I do it w/ motor running in neutral, idle set as low as possible. When it's time to go I push the bike as fast as I can then gently drop it into first and rev match best I can to change gears once I'm rolling, very light throttle when changing. Well adjusted shift cables pay off bigtime here. But how are you guys popping launch wheelies? |
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Seems like a wheelie is more likely in second if you are gassing it. If the idle is set low enough, I can just run alongside it idling in first gear but no way I could do it in second. So if you push fast, drop into FIRST without gassing it, you should be much closer to rev matched and you can just ride away w/ no wheelies. This is easier w/ a smallie and works great until you come to an uphill stop which is a problem. Find another route.
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ScooterRaton wrote: ... I'll get a few more photos tomorrow if you want. ![]() And please make the pics smaller, those huge motor shots are hurting my eyes |
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Voodoo, it's the math of the gearbox. Wheelies = lots of torque at the wheel, right? In first, you are multiplying the speed of the engine by 14.74, but in 2nd you are multiplying it by 9.73 at the wheel. To your point, for any given speed, 2nd gear needs less RPM. As an example, pick 6 MPH. You need 2000 RPM in 1st or only 1500 in 2nd. But the thing I think that matters is that you need to traverse the wheel from 0 RPM to 29000 RPM or from 0 RPM to 15000 RPM. From a standstill, 2nd will be easier to do, less abrupt. From a push, I think you're on to something.
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Anyone ever had to replace the bronze small end bushing on the connecting rod? Vespa 90 would be close to what I'm dealing with.
I'll need/want to do it in the bike or at least with the crank still in the case. been thinking I could make a fixture that mounts over the studs to keep everything true. |
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V oodoo wrote: ScooterRaton wrote: ... I'll get a few more photos tomorrow if you want. ![]() And please make the pics smaller, those huge motor shots are hurting my eyes At least they were in focus! You can see I ran a new green wire. ![]() ![]() ⚠️ Last edited by ScooterRaton on UTC; edited 1 time
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So today I drained the gear oil. Wasn't too bad looking but looked low. no obvious metal. Refilled with Redline, lubed levers, tubes, linkages etc.
Clutch plates were stuck so I just got going as if no clutch. duck paddled a bit then dropped into first and was able to hit second pretty easily. Held the clutch, let it warm up worked the clutch and they loosened up after a couple of blocks. Ran great! When this thing hits 5500 to 6000 rpm...hang the freak on! I didn't see anything over 220 F on the SIP speedo CHT I installed. Got some ethanol free gas, went for a ride...and smiled. Yeah...the seat cover is funky. But it is comfy and growing on me! It still has the original dealer sticker and came with the original key tag as well as a Vespa air pump too. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Davetopay wrote: For some reason I really dig that goofy tail light. I'm not used to having keys so turn signals are new! |
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Hit 132kph the other day on the flat so I could show a Gilera runner who is boss. Not bad with no expansion pipe. Still wish I could get her Dyno'd. M244 for the win.
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Found an air filter to fit that carb. Also found a headlight grille that didn't sell at the last swap meet and of course I had some flat black paint so...why not!
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Also found a dyno for that PSP 2000 with a Malossi 210.
Looks like about 23 hp at 6K rpm 7th one downhttp://vintagescooters.free.fr/tuning/px200_exhaust/px200_exhaust.htm ![]() |
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Rebuilt my crappy lathe today so I could make some tools to remove the small end bushing on my MotoBi Ardizio.
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ScooterRaton wrote: Nice job Patrick...I was wondering how that was coming along! |
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Vader19 wrote: ScooterRaton wrote: Nice job Patrick...I was wondering how that was coming along! ![]() |
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Tierney wrote: No, I guess it does not matter who or where it gets it thrashed. Rust respects no one. And I could probably make the argument that more damage could come from a amateur like me than anyone else just putting a whole lot of miles on a scoot. ![]() |
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Yesterday I got around to fixing that broken clutch cable on the smallie. Tried to do it with what was in the bike, to see if I would have gotten through it at the roadside. Problem 1: the clutch cable spare I had was really a front brake and would never have worked . Problem 2: I find it easier to remove the rear wheel and do it from the left side with less stuff in the way. Can you do it with the wheel installed? I'm assuming you'd have to come from the right (same as cable adjustment), but with the wheel on the ground it seems like it'd be a cluster. Anyone have tips on how they'd do a smallframe clutch cable without the convenience of a jackstand to hold up the rear and the tire off?
When I finally found a cable in my stash to work, it was like 2 feet too long - I think I remember ordering it when a vendor was out of stock on smallframe ones and just order a largeframe one. Thinking maybe it would be good to carry a cable cutter in my spare tools stash. |
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Moved the scooter out of the garage for 30mins so I could tidy up a bit and it pissed down, that counts as washing it surely?
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Series zero?
Saw this today.
Www.mostexpensivethingz.com/oldest-vespa-world-auction Manual assembly and machining of the parts? The third vespa made ever? Check it out and....if it is legit.... Let the bidding begin! |
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I was actually "Caller #28" on a radio contest!!!! I WON! shitty movie tickets but I'm trilled! LOL Whooooo Hoooooo I never win anything! YAAAAYYY
Oh sorry.. this in NSR.. but I feel like I won the lottery... about 20 bucks worth but it feels great! HAAAAA |
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Vader19 wrote: I was actually "Caller #28" on a radio contest!!!! I WON! shitty movie tickets but I'm trilled! LOL Whooooo Hoooooo I never win anything! YAAAAYYY Oh sorry.. this in NSR.. but I feel like I won the lottery... about 20 bucks worth but it feels great! HAAAAA |
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I pulled out the head off the stuck p200 I picked up back in January. Doesn't look too bad in there except it is coked up.....and seized at the bottom of the bore. No houses or scuffing. It looks like it is from condensation in storage. Started soaking it it with pb blaster and whacking it with a one pound dead blow. No movement yet.........
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MJRally wrote: Vader19 wrote: I was actually "Caller #28" on a radio contest!!!! I WON! shitty movie tickets but I'm trilled! LOL Whooooo Hoooooo I never win anything! YAAAAYYY Oh sorry.. this in NSR.. but I feel like I won the lottery... about 20 bucks worth but it feels great! HAAAAA ![]() |
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Ginch wrote: So it was YOU who answered that tough question about Hanson's third single!] ![]() |
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Davetopay wrote: I pulled out the head off the stuck p200 I picked up back in January. Doesn't look too bad in there except it is coked up.....and seized at the bottom of the bore. No houses or scuffing. It looks like it is from condensation in storage. Started soaking it it with pb blaster and whacking it with a one pound dead blow. No movement yet......... ![]() I don't have one.. but something like this will save you the "double nut" method http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/331996273724?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true and it looks like you either need to replace those studs.. or at the very least run a die over the threads... the shorter threads go in the case, the longer ones go up into the cylinder (I know you no doubt know this.. just saying) |
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Re: sun's out sponge out
T5bitza69 wrote: gave it a 'yad think I wa gonna sell it' wash........ |
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Re: sun's out sponge out
Vader19 wrote: T5bitza69 wrote: gave it a 'yad think I wa gonna sell it' wash........ |
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