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One minor mishap with the bins. Forgot to brake…. She was fine
If she got back on after that, she'll get there!

My daughter has tried to learn, but between my only have largeframes (she's 5'2") with hot motors and not knowing how to drive stick, it's been a struggle.
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Yeah, difficult with large frames. I was going to try on my P, but had the little one. Its actually the perfect size and sort of what theyre made for I guess.

Layover looks worse than was. She couldnt hold the scooter up when she stopped in front of the bins and just laid it on its side. Even the 90 a bit heavy!

She did well with the clutch i reckon.
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gotta start somewhere! Everyone lays down atleast once. Good she got it out of her system early
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Since I'm waiting on parts for several things, I re-geared my Buddy's '05 Zuma YW50 for more top end. May need to re-spring the clutch now to make up for the slight loss of takeoff. Final is now 11:1, which is nothing for weedy teens but pushing it for bigger dudes.

Had more time to wrench than usual, so I threw some more trash on the lift to autopsy. This is #9, an '01 Zuma II CW50. Paint is shit, forks are blown and bodywork needs repair. Engine is rebuilt and modified, so I need to get the chassis up to snuff. Also need practice rebuilding hydraulic forks.
Nasty chassis.
Nasty chassis.
Forks are bleeding, but the upper tubes looked OK after cleaning. Dang seals and dust boots are nearly unobtanium these days.
Forks are bleeding, but the upper tubes looked OK after cleaning. Dang seals and dust boots are nearly unobtanium these days.
Oooh, fancy...
Oooh, fancy...
Duly noted.
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Got the 90 going and started teaching my daughter how to ride. She did good.
wait wait...wait...

You are using a ss90 to teach someone to ride?!?



*clutches pearls*
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wait wait...wait...

You are using a ss90 to teach someone to ride?!?



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You are using a ss90 to teach someone to ride?!?



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I thought of using the P, but like Chandlerman said, too big and would just put her off.

The 90 made for someone my daughters size. When i was a kid, my dad said, when you can start it, you can ride it. She managed to start it!

It was good to see it getting used for this. It was sort of my first real scoot and opened my eyes to what these little things could do.
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Small enough to hold up. It was cool she could do
Small enough to hold up. It was cool she could do
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Took another look at a Buddy 50 (#5) that was picked up for that 50cc ride. Fixed the engine in December, but needed a Keihin slow jet to resolve a hard-start issue. Runs great, but I noticed a rubbing sound when braking. Checked and relocated the front brake line (would touch tire under braking) but it didn't solve the noise totally.

That when I noticed the fender was tagging the bodywork when loaded. And then noticed the tire was rubbing a hole in the front lower cover when braking.

Got a good used fork. Yep, the original is bent.

Naturally, the scooter is gutted about this.
Fork in the background is the replacement. Fork in the foreground is the original. The bases are squared up.
Fork in the background is the replacement. Fork in the foreground is the original. The bases are squared up.
Poor scoot's about fallen to pieces over this.
Poor scoot's about fallen to pieces over this.
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the only redeeming quality of that job is that you don't have to break the hydro system.
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the only redeeming quality of that job is that you don't have to break the hydro system.
Yeah, I like the split fender design for that reason. I did have to open it on the prebug Zuma, but it was a worthwhile exercise since that system was full of schmoo.

Two observations on these two projects:

1) The Buddy 50 and the Zuma II have the same fork inners and use the same oil seals.
2) The NCY caliper and the Buddy 50 caliper are straight-up copies of the Zuma II/BWS Brembo unit.

Already knew the Buddy 50 used the same brake rotor as a CW50/YW50, but also recently determined that the Vino 125 uses the same rotor.

Forks on these are a lot simpler to work on than expected. Only pain is that the particular prebug I'm working on is a late '01 and it has 30mm fork like the '02-on Aerox, which wasn't sold here. Parts diagram speak nothing of this, so there may be shenanigans afoot.

And I will pay dearly for my fork comment when we tear down my Buddy's '07 Burgie 400 to fix its leaky forks...
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are you sure on the 125 rotor?

I remember those being quite speedy and a real bitch to source

I do know that the buddy 50 brake shit is common and shares parts with several other scoots (to that note, let me know if you need any of that and I'll throw it in a pile for ya)

burgmans are such a delight to work on. just be glad it's not a 650!
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are you sure on the 125 rotor?

I remember those being quite speedy and a real bitch to source
Pretty sure. It kinda explains why the big Vino is so slow. That'll be problematic when I get my buddy's wife's Vino going for SuperSunday (May 8th). Quite possibly gonna go faster than 55.
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I do know that the buddy 50 brake shit is common and shares parts with several other scoots (to that note, let me know if you need any of that and I'll throw it in a pile for ya)
I'm good on the brakes. If you have a shortblock, I'm very interested. I'd rather build up a second motor than gut this one and rebuild it next month. It's going to a friend wants to experience a quick small 2T and he's wanting to take it to SuperSunday. I have some decent hardware to bolt into it but it's easier to build a second and just swap it out when he wants to party.
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burgmans are such a delight to work on. just be glad it's not a 650
Got that t-shirt. They are truly a pain in all of the arseholes.
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I recently returned to Greece, I think I got lucky squeezing in between a pandemic and a small war just to the north of us, yikes! Wha? emoticon

Today I received a gift from my friend John here who rides big powerful motorcycles, but somehow still puts up with my Vespa addiction and found this for me to prove he's not really prejudiced. Now I can believe him.
Finally! A proper manual for my old smallie so I don't have to just guess how it works!
Finally! A proper manual for my old smallie so I don't have to just guess how it works!
This is in mint condition, looks like it was never opened.
This is in mint condition, looks like it was never opened.
So many useful illustrations.
So many useful illustrations.
And the colors still pop.
And the colors still pop.
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Love it... it just makes one of the most gorgeous scoots ever made even more of a design wonder.
as seen on a SM post elsewhere
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You can have all that, I'll take whats left
You can't handle what's left Razz emoticon
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My Friend, I can handle more than your imagination can dream of
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Don't forget - he's a geek, and a lion....and a sex panther Razz emoticon ROFL emoticon
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Don't forget - he's a geek, and a lion....and a sex panther Razz emoticon ROFL emoticon
I stand corrected.

ROFL emoticon ROFL emoticon ROFL emoticon
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Also, if he's both a lion AND a panther, how does that compare to a Liger?
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Also, if he's both a lion AND a panther, how does that compare to a Liger?
Lanther....Pion.... Liantheron?!... Not sure whats proper, but Lion+Panther beats Liger alldayerryday. Dont ask how I know, I just do
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Lanther....Pion.... Liantheron?!... Not sure whats proper, but Lion+Panther beats Liger alldayerryday. Dont ask how I know, I just do
Panthers beat Tigers all day every day so by default a Lion/Panther mashup will always be superior!
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Yeah, but Ligers are also bred for their skills in magic!

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Lion-Panthers are bred for their skills in BLACK MAGIC
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Yeah but that guy got hit in the face with a pork chop, so what does he know!
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You forgot that fabulous rack!
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Yeah but that guy got hit in the face with a pork chop, so what does he know!
He's one of the world's foremost authorities on the Liger, I'll have you know!
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so with weather rolling in I was already in the muck... yay. waited for that BS to abate and band-aid Rube Goldberg'd it till I can get my big torch and bottle. it'll hold. it's fine. it's fine.

but without pain, you don't know... well... more pain.

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it's time to get down...
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I keep the Stella locked up with a 6' long cable looped through the rear rack down to an anchor in the street. This morning I forgot to unlock the cable. Start her up, a little gas, engage the clutch, and WHAM! me and the bike are laying on our right sides in the gutter. I guess the coffee hasn't kicked in because it takes 15 seconds before I can figure out WTF is going on.

After I got it back up, I had the damnedest time getting her to start back up. I am assuming it was just massively flooded. Once it did start, it let up a cloud of smoke as if Stella was the Papal conclave.

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Ouch! I hope you're all right and the scooter wasn't unacceptably beat up in the process.

They do tend to flood and get really smoky for a bit after you lay one down. If it was fully warmed up, it would have been easier to re-start, I can tell you from experience.
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it's time to get down...
That's wheelie super, pulled from its slumber. Nice!
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Yeah, I need a track day and someone to help me learn to lean and use all my tire.
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