Modern Vespa

We're all entitled to our opinions, but I want to ask each of you to please respect everyone else's opinions about scooters, even Chinese ones.

There's a thread on the International New Scooter BBS right now about Modern Vespa, and it's turned antagonistic. While SE's response to the original post included less than complimentary opinions about Vespa scooters, I choose to take the high road, and I'd like to ask each of you to consider doing the same or at least avoid commenting.

Please, please, please, everyone... be civil. I started this forum to remove the country-of-origin conflict, and I'd really rather not replace it by creating a rivalry between this forum and ScooterBBS. Let's keep the focus on scooters and scootering.

Thanks,
Jess

Agreed, let's take the high road ladies and gentlemen
Oh, tea time, Ta-ta

Sounds good to me, I joined this group because I know that comments made will be useful and that hopefully no one is bashing anyone else's scooter. I am glad for anyone who rides, and whatever they ride.

I just read the aforementioned thread. Jeez, what hate.

Nothing but love! Hope it wasn't read that way. I was just pointing out both sides, and hair loss prevention.

Sorry if my comment seemed like hate, it was really to point out there are merits to both forums.

I didn't see any hate from you, only sarcasm.

Unless you were serious about hairloss. I feel your pain.

I haven't even read the other forum after joining this one. It wasn't helping me with my scooter, or my attitude.

Karmas going to get ya! Nuff said!

Can we STOP talking about hairloss already....it's bringing me down!

I checked the link. It is real! (Hey, I'm mostly bald. I was curious. It doesn't hurt to just wanna see what they do does it? )

They seem oblivious to the fact that millions of scooterists on Italian and Chinese scooters are peeking over the fence at them...

And now that the eyes of the other forums are on us here (OK, who spilled the beans?) lets be extra careful not to step on anyone's toes. Not only over on the BBS, but here as well. We've all been on forums long enough to know that what you write doesn't always translate into what you mean. If you've got even a hint that you're quickly composed reply might be misread, don't hit that submit button! Read it again and either edit it, or don't send it.

Sometimes biting your tongue is better than speaking your mind.

Thanks guys, and keep it cool! 8)
Steve

Hey Jess,

Thanks for the reminder. I feel like a BBS refugee, but it's not so bad because, thanks to you guys, we now have a place to go and ModernVespa is getting better by the hour. I can't thank you enough for setting this up. So, what can we do to support the MV?

Wow, that went from 0 to angry in 1 post.

Scary stuff man. You'd think people'd be able to get along if they share the same hobbies.

fuck getting along !
hows your clutch OZ ?

Working, which is both amazing and confusing!

Hopefully it'll last!!! I wanted to take her out to point reyes this past weekend but it was c-r-a-p-p-y weather this sunday. Depressing. Maybe this sunday. I'd say come along, but it's the wrong direction for you!

He's crazy enough to do it, just you wait and see...

Hey Jess, about that PM I sent you... Maybe skip the idea. It just further propegates that which we are trying to avoid.

Hell man, you can do it too Come on, richmond bridge We can meet up in corte madera!

If the weather's not miserable, I'll seriously consider it.

Hi-I'm new to this forum, but I was a lurker then a member of International Scooterist BBS for some time. I was glad to see this new forum for Vespa riders. Though I got a lot of good and useful information on scootering in general and my GT in particular on the other forum, it seems to have gradually gone down hill. There also seemed to be a lot of dealer promotion from time to time.

I hope we all can use this forum for useful tips, and generally improving our riding experience.

BernieB,
welcome to the club

[quote="jess"] Let's keep the focus on scooters and scootering.

Word jess! that's what we all love to do and that's why we're here in the forum!

Cheers!
CUCO

ScooterBBS and Civility? That's an inherernt contradiction if I've ever heard one!

BTW thanks for putting this up, nice to see that we have a choice.

I found this site through ScooterBBS and doubt I'll be going back. Sure we ride ours, they ride theirs, but that site was getting beyond a joke with some of the posts (and subsequent flaming).

I hope this site remains, Vespa focussed and friendly 'cos we all need someweb to call "home"

Thanks to Jess for setting up this fantastic site. Not only does it seem like it's run by professionals, the look-and-feel is completely user-friendly. I can read this site and not have a massive migraine like I did from the white-text-on-black-background at ScooterBBS (which is a horrible violation of usability). Thumbs up!

The white on black text was perhaps but a small part of the site that was creating mini-migraines for me. Thankfully everyone here just flat out ignores my few dumb posts rather than goes into disparaging comment mode.

As an aside - Jess, I did read your sticky about civility and suggestion to refrain from commenting on the ISBBS regarding the anti-vespa thread, but I felt it was important for me to say something there in spite of my apparent lack of credibility. No, I'm not an old-skool scooterist nor am I a new-skooler. I don't know when I may get a scoot of my own (maybe it turns out to be never - there are a lot of other priorities that come before such an indulgence) but I have been smitten with Vespas for somewhere around 10-12 years now, and that is basically the only make I have even considered. I just got tired of the developments taking place on the ISBBS... I hope that the 'positivity' of this site continues even as it attracts more members!

For whatever it is worth, I like reading and posting on this forum more than the scooter bbs. People here seem friendlier and more open to discussion not just badmouthing anyone who thinks differently or know less about scooters. I like it here more even though I do not even own a modern vespa.

JNV - And we're glad to have you.

I noted with some amusement that the vintage crowd at ScooterBBS has also taken the stance that Ps aren't worthy of their club, manual shift or not. We will draw no such line here.

damn...im jellous of you bay area riders...i wanna ride to point reyes too!
damn Bend Oregon and its snow...

Having lived in the Bay Area, I would think that you'd have to ride at a 45 degree angle (into the wind) to get across the Richmond Bridge. I've sailed all round the bay and the knowledge of the wind conditions could come in handy if I ever get my scooter back there. And I do want to acknowledge as others have done here, that BBS was responsible in part for my getting connected with Modern Vespa and for that I'm thankful.
MarkD

Yeah, I had that thought too. I haven't actually crossed the Richmond bridge myself (although I think NapaCoach must have done it). I would most likely cross the Bay Bridge and then the Golden Gate. Those two together would be much preferable to the Richmond bridge.

Well, if ya come, I can meet you by the GG bridge, since I'll need to come through that to get to Marin...

The forecast for Sunday is clear so far... What kinda timeframe are you thinking of?

And why hasn't NapaCoach jumped in yet?

I was thinkin' leave SF at about 1 or so... have you ever taken the GG bridge? if you're worried about freeways, we can hop off right at sausalito. it's also a nice ride. If you've never been through the area I"ll lead.

Oz - Sent you a PM about it.