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all right all you "right side of the pond"ers...

I just finished Harry Potter and got pissed at a couple of errors in the editing.

My wife says that maybe it is because of our differences in English.

Is it "cleverer" or "more clever"????
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I think it's cleverererer
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Re: keepers of the Queen's English...
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all right all you "right side of the pond"ers...

I just finished Harry Potter and got pissed at a couple of errors in the editing.

My wife says that maybe it is because of our differences in English.

Is it "cleverer" of "more clever"????
I don't know, but you spelt "or" incorrectly Laughing emoticon
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Let's see if h.s. English still serves me well on adjectives...

Positive: clever, Comparitive: cleverer OR more clever ,

Superlative: cleverest OR most clever


In normal usage I'd lean to "more clever" as the Comparative but toward "cleverest" in the Superlative. Go figure!
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We have a few Americanisms too. 1 person=y'all, 2 people=both y'all, 3 or more=all y'all. And what's all that they scream in the Waffle House when you order your hash browns?
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either one is fine.

do you take the copy editor's approach to all of your light reading?
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As an adjective it's -er and -est...though I'd imagine it's acceptable both ways.
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have a squizzy at this!

or this

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either one is fine.

do you take the copy editor's approach to all of your light reading?
not so much copy editor, but stuff like that word in a great section of the book rocks my brain out of its rhythmn.(<--course i have no idea how to spell that word, has always confunded me)
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We have a few Americanisms too. 1 person=y'all, 2 people=both y'all, 3 or more=all y'all. And what's all that they scream in the Waffle House when you order your hash browns?
In Western PA and W Va: 1= ya 2 or more= yunz e.g. Do yunz want more coffee?
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Re: keepers of the Queen's English...
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I just finished Harry Potter and got pissed at a couple of errors in the editing.
You got drunk because of this? Read:

pissed Adj. Drunk.

http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/p.htm
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Re: keepers of the Queen's English...
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Is it "cleverer" or "more clever"????
Iz mo' clevah, dog!
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I remember reading that, too. Just added to the quirkiness of her writing. All of which, I love.

Besides, I wonder how much a copy editor really does to her novels. Kind of like second-guessing the pope on Easter Sunday.
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I think the correct usage is Double Plus Good.
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Hi,

The point is it is a Fictional Novel. The Author is given broad birth in language usage in order to convey a thought, image or feeling, or project a unique style.

If it were not so, Authors such as Ogden Nash, Kurt Vonegut (and any number of contemporary authors) would be in real trouble...

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edit***read this post again, it was rude...sorry***
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cleverer is in the dictionary described as an adjective ... it's a word I have heard many times

But who gives a fook?
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Rowling uses the word many times in the novels. It's a word said by her characters as well as in the narration. She also uses the word in her private life. An interview with Daniel Radcliffe shows that he also uses the word.

I googled Harry Potter cleverer.
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Rowling uses the word many times in the novels. It's a word said by her characters as well as in the narration. She also uses the word in her private life. An interview with Daniel Radcliffe shows that he also uses the word.

I googled Harry Potter cleverer.
huh...it never stood out to me till now....
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Re: keepers of the Queen's English...
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elmonchichi wrote:
I just finished Harry Potter and got pissed at a couple of errors in the editing.
You got drunk because of this? Read:

pissed Adj. Drunk.

http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/p.htm
That is correct.Pissed=drunk.Pissed OFF= pissed off.
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We have a few Americanisms too. 1 person=y'all, 2 people=both y'all, 3 or more=all y'all. And what's all that they scream in the Waffle House when you order your hash browns?
ROFL emoticon how funny, i just used the term "all yall" a few minutes ago on another board.
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huh...it never stood out to me till now....
So - when did the grammar police allow the shortened form of 'until' become 'till'. Shouldn't it be ''til'?

Being an English ex-English teacher, I could write a whole book about the bastardization of the language. I fear it's already been done, though. Hmmm - I wonder when the term for an illegitimate child became standard usage for screwing around with stuff and changing it. That could morph into some interesting thoughts on the Royal Bastards. I'm not going there...

And what about the missing 'had' in 'I better go now'? Oh shut up and get a life!!!!!
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I think the correct usage is Double Plus Good.
Ahh, another 1984 fan... did you ever read "The Futurological Congress"? It'll blow your mind!



Yes, unfortunately 'cleverer' is a word... but I don't like it one bit! Not at all!
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[.... I fear it's already been done, though.
Yes, its called Eats, Shoots & Leaves, Lynne Truss, Gotham Books.
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I'm just impressed that you are reading......... or should I say

I am impressed that you have read.
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Here's the one I like.

"The Mother Tongue (ISBN 0-380-71543-0) is a book by Bill Bryson which wittily compiles the history and origins of the English language and the language's various quirks. Subtitled English And How It Got That Way. The book discusses the Indo-European origins of English, the growing status of English as a global language, the complex etymology of English words, the dialects of English, spelling reform, prescriptive grammar, and more minor topics including swearing. Bryson's account is a popularization of the subject, designed to entertain as well as to inform, and the book is sprinkled with trivia and language lore."

In the end, he concludes that language is always changing so get over it.

Just you wait Henry Higgins!
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Ya'll is a southern contraction for "you all". It is not used to refer to one person. It is used to refer to two or more people. If you are alone and someone asks you "How ya'll doin'?" They mean how are you and your family or you and your spouse. Just because the other(s) is/are not present doesn't mean they can't ask how they are. It is polite to ask about someone's family.

When someone says "all y'all" it is usually used as an emphasis. For example if several people were arguing, I might say "ya'll just need to calm down". However, if I felt they were getting into a heated altercation I could emphatically state "Hey now, all y'all need to calm down and stop arguing!"

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Here's the one I like.

"The Mother Tongue (ISBN 0-380-71543-0) is a book by Bill Bryson which wittily compiles the history and origins of the English language and the language's various quirks. Subtitled English And How It Got That Way.
+1

Also, we had our first house and it came with a library of old books - one was an 1890's dictionary with the historical background of the words usage. I was in my 20's and hurriedly looked up the word F#ck.

Well, well, well, the word is of English origin from the occupation/colonial period of India.

A F#ck is the name of the torch like stick inserted into a small hole in a funeral pyre and is used to ignite the kindling wood inside the pyre.

And yes I've heard Fornication Under Consent of King, however, acronyms are a relatively recent development in the language. Suspect that one was thought up by some other 20 year old with too much time on his hands in a philosophy class!
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Here's the one I like.

"The Mother Tongue (ISBN 0-380-71543-0) is a book by Bill Bryson which wittily compiles the history and origins of the English language and the language's various quirks. Subtitled English And How It Got That Way.
+1

Also, we had our first house and it came with a library of old books - one was an 1890's dictionary with the historical background of the words usage. I was in my 20's and hurriedly looked up the word F#ck.

Well, well, well, the word is of English origin from the occupation/colonial period of India.

A F#ck is the name of the torch like stick inserted into a small hole in a funeral pyre and is used to ignite the kindling wood inside the pyre.

And yes I've heard Fornication Under Consent of King, however, acronyms are a relatively recent development in the language. Suspect that one was thought up by some other 20 year old with too much time on his hands in a philosophy class!
Ooh, I think its a bit older than that, its a good piece of Anglo Saxon which was around for perhaps 500 years before the English went to India. And Dutch, German, Norwegian and Swedish have similar swear words in their languages.

If you really need to know then you can call the Oxford English Dictionary and ask.... they will be super polite in their response.

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Oh, yeah, Oxford. 'like they're going to know anything about the English language....
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Oh, yeah, Oxford. 'like they're going to know anything about the English language....
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