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Ive been running mine for almost a year now, I just received a renewal notice in the mail. Options were to send a in a personal check or complete it online. Pretty easy.
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Hey guys I am trying to this as we speak and it asks for a Vermont license number. Obviously I don't live in Vermont so should I just put my license number and in parentheses where I live?
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Hey guys I am trying to this as we speak and it asks for a Vermont license number. Obviously I don't live in Vermont so should I just put my license number and in parentheses where I live?
Hi Maddox. I simply put my CA license number where it say Vermont license. Seems odd I realize but it was no worries.
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Me thinks this thread should be made a sticky. Deffo useful for anyone trying to get an old/long unregistered bike back on the road.
Second that. Most stressful part of old bike purchase. Back fees also a concern. Great post MJR.

Had this as back up for mine. Based in Cali. Had some luck with another method.

In Cali, over 8 years unregistered falls from their system with motorcycles and scoots.

Here is the process I used that shortcut the time/ stress.

1. Contact CHP office. They will need to provide "VIN verification". DMV will send you to do this - then back to DMV - but if you call your local CHP office, their trained specialist will likely agree to do that for you before you go to DMV - saving a trip and giving them no reason to say no/ hold you up.


2. Fill out a "statement of facts" form. Link here. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/35dae237-eb4b-4bed-a82a-b4c652c2ef8a/reg256.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CVID=

Fill out top line above A. and then section G.

In section G, do short write up about how you got the bike/ history (sat in a barn for 8 years) and be sure to note it was not used or transported in any way on California roads or highways. This last part goes to no back fees owed. Best if you can get seller to sign the statement of facts rather then you but not required.

Take the paperwork with
- VIN verification
- Bill of sale
- Statement of factS
- Check book

To DMV.
Cost me a few hundred to license and register and they did it in less then 30 min.

(Side note: CHP was booked out 8 weeks, but when he found out it was a vintage scoot, said he would take me the same week and gave me a time. These guys have to inspect a lot of salvage title 1980 accords with bad paint, so when you have an interesting vehicle, it's probably more fun for them. You may be able to negotiate a quicker appointment with a little luck).
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DMV refused me twice when I tried to register 2 of the barn find scoot. Both were running at that time. I tried again at another DMV last year and they said I must have the title. Bill of sale won't do. Tried Vermont trick and now I have title for both and registration is 1/3 of CA. I'm happy with that.
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DMV refused me twice when I tried to register 2 of the barn find scoot. Both were running at that time. I tried again at another DMV last year and they said I must have the title.
ph0 - sounds like there are circumstances it won't work based on your experience.

That said - it was painless and did work seamlessly for me so I thought worth sharing.

Not intended to replace MJ R's solution - rather supplement it for those that want to take a shot at getting a Ca reg who live here.

I got it from a forum where a group of people were successful executing and shared details - much like this thread. Coincidentally I was working on it when this thread popped up.

can be read here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hondatrailcts/getting-a-title-for-an-old-bike-with-no-pinkslip-c-t6378.html

When I did mine - the lady was training - and her supervisor walked her through the process so I saw some of the step by step. There was a manual - and it dictated what she did and did not require for a scoot that was not in their system of a certain age. Title was specifically not needed in this case - but the other requirements I listed were.

I believe there was a cut off (1980?) where it won't work - sorry cant be more specific. Was your scoot an 80's model by any chance?
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Hey guys. Thanks for keeping this updated as things change. I also did a How to for California as well but it's not as popular. Use, enjoy and hope these help!

How to Guide- Apply for a California plate and title
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Essential thread.
Thanks MJR
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Vermont Registration Question
How do you know how much to make the check out for as this original post is about 2 years old now.
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How do you know how much to make the check out for as this original post is about 2 years old now.
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$48 for single year
https://dmv.vermont.gov/registrations/fees

plus 6% sales tax
https://dmv.vermont.gov/tax-title/vehicle-taxation

Also, sale price must be $500 or greater.
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Another Vermont Registration Question
One more thing I'm confused about here.
In section 3B of the tax and title application,
do they want the sellers (person I bought it from) Name, Address, Date Purchased
or do they want the Name, Address and date Purchased from the person the seller originally bought it from.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question.
Thank you for the help,
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easy peasy
I just renewed my VT reg for the smallie online. had it 1 year and haven't gotten around to Calif titling it yet ...it's been fine riding around so far.
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I'd like to be a fly on the wall when this thread gets bumped and the nice ladies at the Vermont DVM get another wave of Vespa registration applications.

Do they cash the checks and clock out early for margaritas?
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Does it have to be a check or can you use a money order?
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Does it have to be a check or can you use a money order?
personal check is fine.

As some like to get registered in CA, for me I just see it's ridiculous to pay such high Reg fee every year for the scoot you may be ride once or twice a year. I'm not ready to pay CA fee at $124 a pop for my scoots. With VT, I have been paying <$50 a scoot and that's less than half.
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One more thing I'm confused about here.
In section 3B of the tax and title application,
do they want the sellers (person I bought it from) Name, Address, Date Purchased
or do they want the Name, Address and date Purchased from the person the seller originally bought it from.
Sorry if this seems like a dumb question.
Thank you for the help,
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Just who you purchased it from, Name and town is sufficient.
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Does it have to be a check or can you use a money order?
personal check is fine.

As some like to get registered in CA, for me I just see it's ridiculous to pay such high Reg fee every year for the scoot you may be ride once or twice a year. I'm not ready to pay CA fee at $124 a pop for my scoots. With VT, I have been paying <$50 a scoot and that's less than half.
You ride once or twice a year?

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Re: Vermont Registration Question
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ph0ngvu wrote:
rakwwatts wrote:
Does it have to be a check or can you use a money order?
personal check is fine.

As some like to get registered in CA, for me I just see it's ridiculous to pay such high Reg fee every year for the scoot you may be ride once or twice a year. I'm not ready to pay CA fee at $124 a pop for my scoots. With VT, I have been paying <$50 a scoot and that's less than half.
You ride once or twice a year?

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Duhh, when you have multiple scoots, some you will ride often, some you may ride once or not even touch it.
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Me too!

I did go ahead and get it registered and titled here in Oregon. A tip: Print out the section off the Vermont DMV website that pertains to only registration lower than 300cc and bring it to the DMV. The clerk appreciated it and attached it to the application.

Now, the two clerks have worked at the DMV since I've lived here (13 years). They know me and know I don't live in Vermont. She smiled and said I'm glad you got it figured out and all your paperwork is in order. Here is your new plate and stickers! We talked about how it's next to impossible to register something that has been off the radar since 1983. So this system works, and works smoothly!

A huge thank you to MJRally! This was a big deal, and now it's a nothing.
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Don't "forget" to re-register next year...
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I have used VT for several years to not only register my Vespa so I could get an Arkansas title, but also my Harley Topper, a couple of Cushmans, a Fuji Rabbit, and even 2 Solex motorbikes.

I'm getting ready to send in the bill of sale on a Progress 200 that I bought 9 years ago.

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For those who are asking how to fill in the VT DL#, just leave it blank. VT DMV will assign you a VT DL#. It will be printed on the reg form you get with the tag/sticker, and you can use that same # for future scooter registrations/renewals in VT.

Regarding the insurance questions: state laws and insurance providers vary. In NC, I was able to have liability insurance on a '64 Lammy for a few years with Progressive before DMV and Insurance co records caught up with each other. Progressive could not write liability on a vehicle not registered in NC. I just switched it all over to Hagerty since they do write agreed value and liability for bikes not registered in NC. I never seen to have the time/energy to get that scooter titled in NC, and I'm happy to drive on VT plates.
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Thanks MJRally for the how to.

I just received plates in the mail for my wife's 1960 Allstate and my 1962 VNB.

It was so easy.
I mailed them both in on the same day.
The plates I received even have sequential numbers.
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VT Registration for VESPA ET4
I purchased a Vespa in 2017 without a title and it has been sitting in my garage. I have to go the VT route to get it registered. Do I put the 2017 purchase date or have to put a more recent date of purchase on the paperwork?

And is it still $48 for a year's registration + 6% of purchase price for tax?
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Re: VT Registration for VESPA ET4
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I purchased a Vespa in 2017 without a title and it has been sitting in my garage. I have to go the VT route to get it registered. Do I put the 2017 purchase date or have to put a more recent date of purchase on the paperwork?

And is it still $48 for a year's registration + 6% of purchase price for tax?
...and what year is the vespa your bought?
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I am not sure what difference the year of the Vespa makes as in VT, the state does not issue titles for Motorcycles with engine smaller than 300cc. That is regardless of the year and to the best of my knowledge all Vespa scoots are less than 300cc.

You will need a bill of sale which I assume you have and that will have the date of sale on it. But go to the VT DMV website and read up on it.
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Why not get a bonded title instead? then you will have an actual title in your state in your name.
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I am not sure what difference the year of the Vespa makes as in VT, the state does not issue titles for Motorcycles with engine smaller than 300cc. That is regardless of the year and to the best of my knowledge all Vespa scoots are less than 300cc.

You will need a bill of sale which I assume you have and that will have the date of sale on it. But go to the VT DMV website and read up on it.
I do have a bill of sale with the 2017 date. Guess I will just use that.

Not trying to get a title; just get it registered.
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Why not get a bonded title instead? then you will have an actual title in your state in your name.
How does that work?
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RudyTuesday wrote:
Why not get a bonded title instead? then you will have an actual title in your state in your name.
How does that work?
https://blog.suretysolutions.com/suretynews/4-reasons-you-might-need-a-bonded-title
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RudyTuesday wrote:
Why not get a bonded title instead? then you will have an actual title in your state in your name.
How does that work?
https://blog.suretysolutions.com/suretynews/4-reasons-you-might-need-a-bonded-title
NJ does not accept bonded titles :/ They have a 12-step gruesome process to attain a title and frankly I'd be surprised if they don't ask for a DNA sample
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Putting two VT tag/registrations in the mail tomorrow with my fingers crossed. Will report back when I get my green plates in the mail!!!
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Glad I found this thread. I am going to need to do this myself.

For the section with the odometer reading on the first page of the bill of sale, if your scooter came without one do you just make it up?

Also, is there any legit way to fill out the seller information if you really don't have it, and don't have contact with them? I finally got around to restoring it during this quarantine.

Lastly if there are any NY members out there that have gone through this process and then tried to get NY plates I'd be interested in hearing how that went. Feel free to PM me.


Thanks!
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Another happy VT registrant !
Exactly two weeks to the day from mailing the forms to receiving the plate. Thank you VT DMV !
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Glad I found this thread. I am going to need to do this myself.

For the section with the odometer reading on the first page of the bill of sale, if your scooter came without one do you just make it up?

Also, is there any legit way to fill out the seller information if you really don't have it, and don't have contact with them? I finally got around to restoring it during this quarantine.

Lastly if there are any NY members out there that have gone through this process and then tried to get NY plates I'd be interested in hearing how that went. Feel free to PM me.


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Per the VT form, the Odometer Disclosure Statement is only required if the vehicle is 9 years old or newer, self-propelled and registered weight of 16,000 lbs.

Tell us something about what you are trying to register.
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I'd just put NA in the ODO space. VT will run the VIN and see if it is already registered or titled to someone. Most likely, this has expired off the books years ago. You could check that yourself through the local PD. It might still be in someone's name or even reported stolen at some point and these would be the only things that could cause a problem.
If the VIN clears, the DMV doesn't verify anything. The only person who would contest the "seller's" info is the "seller" ... your friend just picked it up somewhere years ago and never registered it so they sold it to you.
I have registered a couple of bikes in NY with just a BOS signed by "seller". It may be a while before I try to swap the VT plate for a NY one.
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Ok, I'll mark it NA for now.

[/quote]Tell us something about what you are trying to register.[/quote]

I have a 64' Vespa 90. I bought it a few years back, back never got a bill of sale or anything. At the time I just wanted to rebuild something. Wasn't even thinking about driving it yet. Now that we've had all this quarantine time I've managed to restore the scooter and now want to get it ready to ride. First things first I wanted to get it registered. Then I will need to find out what kind of license I need to ride it in NY. Ultimately I'd like to get it registered in NY as well, but it sounds like going though VT first is the easiest solution.
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