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Last night I hit the 100,000 mile mark. I wanted to get a picture of 99999 but by the time I saw it and stopped, it had already turned over. It took a little longer than my previous marks now that I live closer to work. Total time to 100,000 miles - 9 years, 8 months.

60,000 - 80,000 mile mark

Here is a list of all the maintenance and parts it took to get to 100,000 miles.
18 - Oil and filter changes
6 - Belt and rollers
10 - Back tires
5 - Front tires
5 - Left front brake pads
2 - Right front brake pads
Front rotors both
3 - Rear brake pads
2 - Rear rotors
6 - Spark plugs

Replaced exhaust valves due to me using 87 octane gas for the first 38,000 miles

1 - Top and bottom steering bearings

1 - fuel injector (electrical connection broke)
1 - fuel filter
1 - fuel pump (replaced the recalled hose between filter and pump, twice)
1 - Variator, both sides
1 - Battery
1 - Voltage regulator
1 - Stator
1 - Low beam headlight
3 - Bulbs in the dash
1 - Side mirror (due to crash)

And just this year I had to replace the batteries in the fob that opens the seat.
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Wow, had no idea they would even last that long! Well done.
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Wow just Wow. Clap emoticon Clap emoticon You sir are my idol. Treat them right and they'll rack up the miles. I have a little over 47,000 miles on mine. Here's to 200,000 miles. You should email the Piaggio group in NYC and show them your mileage. Maybe they'll give you a T-Shirt.
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Colt.45 wrote:
Wow, had no idea they would even last that long! Well done.
Colt.45
They will if you maintain them.
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And all you naysayers who say not using 91 Octane won't hurt the motor; I have been proven RIGHT, as I knew I was.
"Replaced exhaust valves due to me using 87 octane gas for the first 38,000 miles"

Like I have always said, you just haven't ridden enough miles to know you are hurting the motor.
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Congrats! This is extremely impressive. Yeah, send it to Piaggio...they should give you a new bike for free
Nice to see a fairly reliable machine...
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8) That's a lotta time in the saddle. I wonder if MV has a special designation for members that achieve a significant milestone like that? At any rate, congratulations on accomplishing what very few scooterist ever achieve.
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Congrats Frogman_94
At 10,000 average miles a year, you are doing more than recreational riding on that machine.

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And all you naysayers who say not using 91 Octane won't hurt the motor; I have been proven RIGHT, as I knew I was.
"Replaced exhaust valves due to me using 87 octane gas for the first 38,000 miles"
Like I have always said, you just haven't ridden enough miles to know you are hurting the motor.
dont be quick to pat yourself on the back there fella. Cylinder pressure dictates what fuel you use. Do you know how to measure that?
And for the science side... unless you are taking fuel samples at every fill up or isolating the fuel source... your supposition is bunk!
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Re: Congrats Frogman_94
Bob Copeland wrote:
At 10,000 average miles a year, you are doing more than recreational riding on that machine.
It's my daily commuter and in Northern California I can ride most of the year. I don't ride in the rain.
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WEB-Tech wrote:
And all you naysayers who say not using 91 Octane won't hurt the motor; I have been proven RIGHT, as I knew I was.
"Replaced exhaust valves due to me using 87 octane gas for the first 38,000 miles"
Like I have always said, you just haven't ridden enough miles to know you are hurting the motor.
dont be quick to pat yourself on the back there fella. Cylinder pressure dictates what fuel you use. Do you know how to measure that?
And for the science side... unless you are taking fuel samples at every fill up or isolating the fuel source... your supposition is bunk!
The X9 has a 10.5:1 compression. When I took it into the shop it was sounding rough. The shop did a leak down test and both exhaust valves were leaking. I told them about the gas I was using and they said that could be the problem.
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The money I saved on gas
I just ran some numbers and was astonished.

My scooter gets about 55 mpg. My F-150 gets 18 mpg.

100,000 / 55 = 1818.18 * $3.20 = $5818.17 ($3.20 for 91 octane)

100,000 / 18 = 5555.55 * $2.90 = $16,111.10 ($2.90 for 87 octane)

That's a saving of $10,292.93. Break that down by 10 years, $1029.29 per year.
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It only goes to show, again, that the best thing you can do for any powered two wheeler is ride it constantly.
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Re: The money I saved on gas
frogman_94 wrote:
I just ran some numbers and was astonished.

My scooter gets about 55 mpg. My F-150 gets 18 mpg.

100,000 / 55 = 1818.18 * $3.20 = $5818.17 ($3.20 for 91 octane)

100,000 / 18 = 5555.55 * $2.90 = $16,111.10 ($2.90 for 87 octane)

That's a saving of $10,292.93. Break that down by 10 years, $1029.29 per year.
I love to see this kind of number crunching. You forgot the purchase price/insurance difference. Insurance for my 3 scoots is $750 per year and Scoot Life has comp/collision. My 19 year old van has only liability coverage and cost $780 per year. I'd be lucky to get $780 for my van if I sold it.
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And all you naysayers who say not using 91 Octane won't hurt the motor; I have been proven RIGHT, as I knew I was.
"Replaced exhaust valves due to me using 87 octane gas for the first 38,000 miles"

Well... I'm screwed!
I use 98.
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Commuting to Work
Frogman_94,

When you scoot to work, what is your route like? Express way, Country Roads,
Residential Roads and how far?

I mention this because I drive 22 miles to work one way. The whole distance is Express Way. Normally, this might be safer with no cross traffic pulling out in front of you. Problem, the Cross Town HWY 62 Freeway in my town is a nightmare and unsafe even in a car.

On balance, 5 months out of the year I can't two wheel here in Frost Bite Falls Minnesota. Still, during the riding season, I restrict riding to work to save my bacon. So, scooting to the market, group riding, and heading out into the countryside is my Vespa world.

Bob Copeland
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My commute is all freeway. I only have a 17 mile one way commute now. I was going 86 miles round trip for a little over two years.
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Congrats! I'm right with you on using the high octane regardless of what other folks think. Besides it's a scooter and Piaggio recommends high octane or correct me if I'm wrong. if you need to save a few pennies by getting cheap gas don't get a vespa.
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Congrats! I'm right with you on using the high octane regardless of what other folks think. Besides it's a scooter and Piaggio recommends high octane or correct me if I'm wrong. if you need to save a few pennies by getting cheap gas don't get a vespa.
I wasn't trying to save a few pennies. When I bought the scooter in 2008 the dealer never told me it took 91 octane. There are no stickers and I didn't read the manual. My fault.
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Harbinger wrote:
Congrats! I'm right with you on using the high octane regardless of what other folks think. Besides it's a scooter and Piaggio recommends high octane or correct me if I'm wrong. if you need to save a few pennies by getting cheap gas don't get a vespa.
I wasn't trying to save a few pennies. When I bought the scooter in 2008 the dealer never told me it took 91 octane. There are no stickers and I didn't read the manual. My fault.
Oh god, that wasn't meant at you at all! just a general overall statement. it's obvious you take great care of your ride
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Scooter for sale "low miles".
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Re: The money I saved on gas
breaknwind wrote:
frogman_94 wrote:
I just ran some numbers and was astonished.

My scooter gets about 55 mpg. My F-150 gets 18 mpg.

100,000 / 55 = 1818.18 * $3.20 = $5818.17 ($3.20 for 91 octane)

100,000 / 18 = 5555.55 * $2.90 = $16,111.10 ($2.90 for 87 octane)

That's a saving of $10,292.93. Break that down by 10 years, $1029.29 per year.
I love to see this kind of number crunching. You forgot the purchase price/insurance difference. Insurance for my 3 scoots is $750 per year and Scoot Life has comp/collision. My 19 year old van has only liability coverage and cost $780 per year. I'd be lucky to get $780 for my van if I sold it.
Not to mention the healthful benefits of not hating your commute!

So, now the question: have you earned a new scooter or proven you don't need one?
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That's both impressive and interesting.

Based on your statistics, that's a reliable machine.
Except perhaps for the steering bearings, I don't see anything on the list other than quite normal wear during that amount of miles - and even the wear of bearings is not that unnormal.

Great scoot, that's a keeper!
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frogman_94 wrote:
Last night I hit the 100,000 mile mark.
Very impressive Mr. Frogman!

I am a couple of years behind you, about to turn 84,000 miles on Rocket today.
tdrake wrote:
So, now the question: have you earned a new scooter or proven you don't need one?
I am not sure what Frogman thinks of his long distance scooter, but I would have trouble parting with Rocket.

I have gotten quite attached to it over the years.

It is probably not worth $1,000 to anyone else, but I wouldn't sell it for ten times that.

Bill
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turboblew wrote:
WEB-Tech wrote:
And all you naysayers who say not using 91 Octane won't hurt the motor; I have been proven RIGHT, as I knew I was.
"Replaced exhaust valves due to me using 87 octane gas for the first 38,000 miles"
Like I have always said, you just haven't ridden enough miles to know you are hurting the motor.
dont be quick to pat yourself on the back there fella. Cylinder pressure dictates what fuel you use. Do you know how to measure that?
And for the science side... unless you are taking fuel samples at every fill up or isolating the fuel source... your supposition is bunk!
Well the compression ratio is 10.5:1 and Piaggio REQUIRES 91 octane or higher in the manul, not RECOMMENDED, but REQUIRED!!!
So what's your un-informed point????

And fuel Octane MINIMUM rating is listed right on the gas pump. That is the LOWEST octane that fuel will be as you don't seem to understand that concept.

And please list ANY PROFESSIONAL training or experience working in any field that deals with engines. Because you sound like a desk mechanic to me with little or NO real knowledge of what he types here.
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