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Hi,

Does anyone have any good info on how I might be able to transport my Vespa using a 2 inch Class 3 trailer hitch? Rather than using a trailer which would take up a lot of room in my garage I'm looking for one of those motorcycle type trailers that just fits right behind your car parallel to your back bumper. Any thoughts or experience you can share would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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I wouldn't buy one of those carriers and make it a habit to transport it that way. Maybe I'd try it once if I absolutely needed to and it was a light scooter. The carriers are bouncy, and puts a lot of stress on your hitch. Cars nowadays don't usually have such high ratings for hitches and tongue weight.

If you intend to regularly take your scooter with you, a small trailer from Harbor Freight or Home Depot isn't much more $$ than one of those carriers and is safer and better for your scooter and car.

It might help us if we knew what scooter and what car you have.

If space is an issue, the Kendon line that Bald Wasp recommended is the way to go. They stand upright in your garage and only intrude maybe two feet from the wall. I got a good deal on a pristine used one. Look around.
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Use the "search" function to search the forums. This one has been beaten to death, the "buy a cheap harbor freight trailer" crowd versus the "it's too much weight for the small car" crowd versus the "I do it on my tiny car and it's fine" crowd.
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I use this and drive across the Sf bay to SF here and there. drive around 35 miles freeway and bay bridge per way. Works really good but I did have to modify a little to make sure it hold the smaller scooter tire well.
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I'm transporting a Vespa GTS 300 Super. I have a Honda Element. Thanks for all the suggestions!
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I use this and drive across the Sf bay to SF here and there. drive around 35 miles freeway and bay bridge per way. Works really good but I did have to modify a little to make sure it hold the smaller scooter tire well.
Okay, what is that under the front wheel and carrier bracket in your photo?
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I'm transporting a Vespa GTS 300 Super. I have a Honda Element. Thanks for all the suggestions!
Doesn't that have a tow rating of 1500-2000 lbs which makes the tongue load only 150-200 lbs? Something like the VersaHaul might not be an option.

Personally, I don't plan on owning a trailer until I need to use one regularly enough to justify my cost. My need is pretty infrequent so far, so I just rent or borrow one when needed. If I can't borrow, UHaul is my current rental default.
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Joe Hauler is the same as the Versahaul. Look on craigslist for used ones. You can save a lot of money that way and since its steel, itll last a long time.

Dont go cheap and get aluminum. Get steel! I helped a lady drag a dirt bike out of the 15 North freeway when her aluminum rack stress cracked at the receiver and the whole thing detached.
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Using one that sits parallel to the bumper depends entirely on your hitch rating. I checked for my Chevy Cruze and the hitch would not be rated high enough for the weight of new carrier and my LX150 scooter.
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+1 on the VersaHaul. Pricey, but the best made option available. I'm looking for a used one to carry the LX150 around.
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I have a Honda Element and it can tow 1500 lbs, so it won't carry a versa haul.
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A Honda Element seems too light for a hitch carrier. I have a steel Tilt a rack. It's heavy without 300 pounds on it.
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Versa Haul, Tilt A Rack or this style simple platform are good options if your vehicle & hitch can take it. No ramp here, but a 6 foot 2X12 works fine and it's under a hundred pounds I'd guess. If you use any like this I suggest that you secure lines from the bike to higher on the vehicle from right and left as well as to the platform. You don't want the load to bounce up & down on that single piece of square tube and your receiver mounts if you hit a bump or pothole.

Mine is a sturdy one piece frame. I've seen flimsy bolted multi piece frame platforms at HF that look similar, but that I would avoid.
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Hauled my 2011 GTV 300 from Santa Clarita to Bishop on a hitch-mounted motorcycle carrier. No problems at all, and the car handled just fine.
Hauled 2011 GTV with hitch-mounted motorcycle carrier on my 2015 Honda CR-V.
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I use this and drive across the Sf bay to SF here and there. drive around 35 miles freeway and bay bridge per way. Works really good but I did have to modify a little to make sure it hold the smaller scooter tire well.
I take it that there is no issue with the rear wheel free spinning. As I understand it, the clutch is disengaged so the rear spins without any turning of internal. Correct?
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I don't know if there is a manufacturer in USA,
but you need something like this:

http://www.armitagetrailers.com/SideloadingMotorcycletrailer.htm

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Hauled my 2011 GTV 300 from Santa Clarita to Bishop on a hitch-mounted motorcycle carrier. No problems at all, and the car handled just fine.
Holy Crap! Whats the tongue weight on the crv? I wanted to put a hauler on my 2012 Acura RDX but I dont thing it could handle it.
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+1 on the VersaHaul. Pricey, but the best made option available. I'm looking for a used one to carry the LX150 around.
I just missed out on one of those for $275 on craigslist.
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Hauled my 2011 GTV 300 from Santa Clarita to Bishop on a hitch-mounted motorcycle carrier. No problems at all, and the car handled just fine.
Holy Crap! Whats the tongue weight on the crv? I wanted to put a hauler on my 2012 Acura RDX but I dont thing it could handle it.
Be careful not to exceed the rated tongue load, no matter what vehicle you use. According to this CR-V forum the limit on the smaller 1 1/2" dealer mounted OEM hitch is only 150 lb. Good for a bicycle rack. https://www.crvownersclub.com/forums/26-racks-hitches-towing/110498-2015-2016-cr-v-oem-hitch-tongue-weight-rating.html

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I called a very good local repair shop to ask whether they would install the OEM hitch, and they said that they would, but that they personally used the local UHaul location. UHaul has a 2" receiver/Class III hitch with a 525lb tongue weight rating, for about $240 installed. That ought to be plenty, but then the issue is how carefully will they install the hitch.
So add your bike's weight to the carrier's weight and hope it's under 525 pounds total to be sure. It's another reason I like the 2 extra straps I mentioned supporting the bike from above the hitch.
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There's two numbers to look at here...

1) Weight rating of the hitch

2) Weight rating of the vehicle

Just because you put a big honkin hitch on a little car (or Honda Element, in this case) doesn't magically increase the weight rating of the vehicle. You need to get both numbers, and adhere to the smaller of the two.

For a Honda Element, it's 1500 lbs towing, which means 150 lbs tongue weight.

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What are the towing and tongue weight limits for this hitch.Thanks for your help

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Draw-Tite trailer hitch # 75659 is rated for 3,500 pounds gross trailer weight and 350 pounds tongue weight. It is designed to fit a 2003 to 2011 Honda Element. Please consult the vehicle owners manual and whichever is lower, the hitch or the vehicle, go by the lower capacity rating.
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the mazda 5 getting it done.
actually transported the gtv250 from orlando the same way. with four passengers too.

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Huh. Nice smallframe, 100 Sport?
Mk3 Golf getting it done and didn't have to lay it over either! A few bolts and the seats come out, but still fit alongside the scoot in back and room for a passenger behind the driver.
No ferry fare for the scooter this way too
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Loaded thru the front door fanny first
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yeah. you got me beat there.
my first smally project sport 100
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I use this and drive across the Sf bay to SF here and there. drive around 35 miles freeway and bay bridge per way. Works really good but I did have to modify a little to make sure it hold the smaller scooter tire well.
How long have you been using this? I've just ordered one and there seems to be some disagreement on damage and/or transmission issues with the CT being driven by the rear wheel. Any issues that you're aware of?
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Huh. Nice smallframe, 100 Sport?
Mk3 Golf getting it done and didn't have to lay it over either! A few bolts and the seats come out, but still fit alongside the scoot in back and room for a passenger behind the driver.
WOW!!!
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Our Dave Cooper rack.
Nice. And good to see another Westy.

Does that have a US-style 2" hitch receiver? Or else, how does it attach?
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Huh. Nice smallframe, 100 Sport?
Mk3 Golf getting it done and didn't have to lay it over either! A few bolts and the seats come out, but still fit alongside the scoot in back and room for a passenger behind the driver.
I might be a little loopy today, but I love the top pic -- it looks like the Vespa is a proper passenger, though we all know once you're at speed it'll stick its head out the window like a dog...
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I use this and drive across the Sf bay to SF here and there. drive around 35 miles freeway and bay bridge per way. Works really good but I did have to modify a little to make sure it hold the smaller scooter tire well.
Okay, what is that under the front wheel and carrier bracket in your photo?
its actually the wheel chalk, its not part of anything for transporting, just there when I took the pic.
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If you can go the VersaHaul route support the ends of the rack. Look closely at the 'vertical' strap in the picture, (near the A in Dakota). It reduces any torsional stresses on the hitch and frame and transfers some weight from the hitch to the tailgate.

Subject, of course, to your vehicle's capacity.
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Our Dave Cooper rack.
Nice. And good to see another Westy.

Does that have a US-style 2" hitch receiver? Or else, how does it attach?
The towbar ball and is taken off and the bike rack bar is then put on(longer bolts required) and then the ball is put back so the rack is sandwiched between the ball and the back plate. This can stay on the van and the additional wheel carriers can be slotted in when required.
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I'm transporting a Vespa GTS 300 Super. I have a Honda Element. Thanks for all the suggestions!
You need a trailer. Don't think of a hitch hauler.
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LX behind our Westy:
Roll over waiting to happen if a quick maneuver is needed at highway speed.
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And why is no one manufacturing these in the US?
It's so short though, would be a bitch to back up any distance.
For those that don't trailer, longer the trailer, easier it is to back up.
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DirtyDrew wrote:
I use this and drive across the Sf bay to SF here and there. drive around 35 miles freeway and bay bridge per way. Works really good but I did have to modify a little to make sure it hold the smaller scooter tire well.
I take it that there is no issue with the rear wheel free spinning. As I understand it, the clutch is disengaged so the rear spins without any turning of internal. Correct?
Related [url=http://49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/23388/towing-scooter-rear-wheel]discussion[/url].
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LX behind our Westy:
Roll over waiting to happen if a quick maneuver is needed at highway speed.
Not sure why you would think that. The whole rig is about 5,000lb fully laden, nearly all of it low down.
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