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Yes, the old, large Vespa Topcase has become outdated. At least for me. Here a look at the old;

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Here the new bag;

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Canvas material, sandwiched, with about a 5mm rubberized mat between inner and outer lining. Fairly stable, not at all squishy and soft.

How to mount it?

Look, here's the way I chose;

Take the old angular wedge brackets. Get 2 steel plates, 20cm x 33cm. Position the lower plate with the bag on top where you want it. Mark the midlines, sides and front to back. Hold the old brackets against the steel plate, mark the holes, drill through the 1st plate, then the other one;

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When the 1st plate has been prepped, place the bag on and drill holes through the material. Then place the 2nd plate inside the bag. Take some care and position the bag properly. Mine rests right up against the back of the seat. The seat will open as the bag material is not solid, the bag gives a little.

Use a smaller diameter bit to drill through the inside plate. Makes things easier. When you think you have it, do one left and one right side. I chose 6mm stainless and threaded bolts, with a 10mm head and nut, locking washers and locking head. They fit real snug, and now you're ready to drill the remaining two holes. Tighten them up so the others can be marked.

With only the brackets and 4 bolts in place, the deal moves around. We need to make things firm now. Underneath the old top case holder you'll need two more holes. The metal is an aluminum alloy so its easy to drill through. Here shows one of the rear holes;

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Here the other side, now the bag and it's steel plates fit very firmly, no wiggling around whatsoever.

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Next, the new bag gets some make up. The "Classic" script is real nice, but I like the "Vespa" in metal;

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Next up are painting the steel plates (anti-rust) and better and shorter bolts.

Thanks for your interest,
Michael
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Looks great! I've yet to decide what to do with the leather roll bag that came with my 70th Anniversary GTS. Have a top case so the bag is lonely up high on a shelf.
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Nice!

Still can't help but thinking of this guy:

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James Brown, exactly what I was thinking! Good to know some older types are around. Just I'm not a papa.

Greetings!
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Jet Peddler wrote:
Looks great! I've yet to decide what to do with the leather roll bag that came with my 70th Anniversary GTS. Have a top case so the bag is lonely up high on a shelf.
Since my retirement I have no real need for the big (ugly, my opinion) case anymore. The Vespa was used daily for on-the-job work.

Since taking the plunge, the bag has worked out nicely for smaller type purchases, still allowing room for a helmet, maybe two...?

Certainly looks neater than the old hard case, my opinion.

Consider how often you need the big case. Those leather ones sure look classy on a Vespa! Our rides are neat and different. We choose to be different.
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Nice!

Still can't help but thinking of this guy:

Exactly what I was thinking.... Godfather of Soul!
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James Brown, exactly what I was thinking! Good to know some older types are around.
Umm, I think it's a guy my grandpa used to listen to. Razz emoticon
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James Brown, exactly what I was thinking! Good to know some older types are around.
Umm, I think it's a guy my grandpa used to listen to. Razz emoticon
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Good change, nice work.
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MichaelG wrote:
James Brown, exactly what I was thinking! Good to know some older types are around.
Umm, I think it's a guy my grandpa used to listen to. Razz emoticon
Sic transit gloria (all fame is fleeting).
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James Brown, exactly what I was thinking! Good to know some older types are around.
Umm, I think it's a guy my grandpa used to listen to. Razz emoticon
Whippersnapper! And: get off my lawn ya damn kids!

That said, I sure like the looks of that bag. Any idea how "waterproof/resistant" that might be? I suppose some kind of a cover would help. Back in my younger years, I had a few Harleys with leather bags... I got tired of the buckles. Keep us posted how daily riding is with that sharp looking bag.
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Nice looking -- but.

Do they easily come off to be used as hand luggage?
As said, how waterproof are they?
I guess they are not the least bit secure.
One cannot fix brake/turn lights to them.
The regular top case, some say, is ugly. But it is very practical.
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Nice looking -- but.

I guess they are not the least bit secure.
They aren't in the least. This is why I've opted to not to use mine. Maybe someday I'll find another use.

On the other hand, they are gorgeous. 10x more appealing to the eye that the OEM top case IMO.
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James Brown, exactly what I was thinking! Good to know some older types are around.
Umm, I think it's a guy my grandpa used to listen to. Razz emoticon
Whippersnapper! And: get off my lawn ya damn kids!

That said, I sure like the looks of that bag. Any idea how "waterproof/resistant" that might be? I suppose some kind of a cover would help. Back in my younger years, I had a few Harleys with leather bags... I got tired of the buckles. Keep us posted how daily riding is with that sharp looking bag.
Thanks Jim. I can imagine the bag is fairly waterproof. two layers of canvas with about a 5mm rubberized mat of some description in between. It's firm. Once the cover is unbuckled (yep, kind of a nuisance), there's still a zippered inner lid that has to be rolled back. It's stiff.

More pics tomorrow.
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Raputtak wrote:
Nice looking -- but.

Do they easily come off to be used as hand luggage?
As said, how waterproof are they?
I guess they are not the least bit secure.
One cannot fix brake/turn lights to them.
The regular top case, some say, is ugly. But it is very practical.
Good luck in finding all of those points, in one bag/case.

Secure? You mean like anti-theft? What is secure anyway?

If you mean does it wiggle around? Absolutely not.

Turn signals on a carry bag....gotta love it.
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The roll bags are just damned classy.

Looking forward to more pics.
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I like the look also, seems to fit the old Vespa well.

So, a little further on now. Here the two hidden screws looking from underneath, thay keep the bag where it belongs. Remove these then the whole unit just slides off. The angle irons, as well as the top of the rack are fitted with hard felt pieces, self sticking ones like used for stools and table legs on hardwood floors. This way the metal doesn't get scratched;

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Here the two rearmost screws removed so that I can paint the steel plates. I'll use a silver gloss anti-rust spray paint;

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Here is what the bag looks like when removed. The angle plates stay on, the unit just slides on and off;

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Here the old rack, now with the 2 new holes for the final mounting of the bag. The black plastic cover had to go as it raised the centerline. You can see the hard felt pieces which make the unit fit nice and snug, plus the paint is protected. Slide off, slide back on;

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The 2 steel plates ready for paint;

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The bolts, nuts and washers are stainless steel. Later on a little AC-50 on them and it's good.

I'll paint the plates today, silver, with the inside black. More tomorrow, thanks for your interest.
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Michael, loving what you've done with that canvas Vesap case. I have the leather version that came with my 70th Anniversay model. May do the same with that. Looks very cool and very useful. Well done and thanks for posting.
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Michael, loving what you've done with that canvas Vesap case. I have the leather version that came with my 70th Anniversay model. May do the same with that. Looks very cool and very useful. Well done and thanks for posting.
Those leather bags are beauties, and make a perfect blend of class and usage.
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Thank you Lord..

So, it's all painted and mounted now.

Here the brackets painted and mounted to the bag. The brackets will remain on the bag when it's removed;

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A view underneath;

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From the inside, now with black paint;

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Here's just a look at the bag with the top cover rolled back. Two zippers and a broad Velcro strip hold the inner cover in place;

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Someone asked, this bag is offered by SIP;
https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/products/bagcase+sip+classic+large+_sbrh1bla

I got it from Ebay new for less.

That's it.
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Nice bag! I also prefer bags than hard boxes. Here is mine
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