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First post -

Cool forum - I have already learned stuff - and thank you all for letting me browse.

I obtained a 1978 125 - for free - very rusted-through foot boards - but bike is otherwise solid it seems and I am told was running when put up 10 years ago.

My thinking is to see if I can get it to run - if I can then see about other mechanicals - and then rough appearance improvements. Not looking to spend much and definitely not a restore - just get running for fun around the neighborhood for me and my teenagers. A project with that goal in mind.

My thinking is drain fuel and oil and replace, replace totally destroyed carb air hose (already ordered), clean air filter, replace battery, check wires for connectivity as best I can, and then see if I can kick start it.

Am I off on wrong foot? Totally ignorant about Vespas but am somewhat handy with tools - used to do quite a bit of work on my 60-70s VWs.

thank you all
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Re: New (old) guy - old scooter.
Rustbucket wrote:
...used to do quite a bit of work on my 60-70s VWs.
Not surprising. If you could keep a VW running you'll have no trouble with a Vespa.

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Re: New (old) guy - old scooter.
Rustbucket wrote:
First post -
Am I off on wrong foot? Totally ignorant about Vespas but am somewhat handy with tools - used to do quite a bit of work on my 60-70s VWs.

thank you all
Totally doable, i had mine running in a day or so after purchasing it. Rideable in 2 weeks.
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Photos please!
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You will likely need to pull the carb apart and clean it, especially if it had 10 year old gas in it.
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I did the same recently also.

My suggestion: One step at a time.

I would start by checking to see if you have a spark.
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I bought a 1980 P200 last year that was a basket case. Seized engine, rotten wiring, etc. Spent the winter restoring it and now drive it around my neighborhood. Lots of fun. I wasn't looking for a fancy restoration. Painted it with Rustoleum. Also I just turned 75 and had not ridden on a scooter or motorcycle in over 50 years. So go for it. You are never too old.
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And when you get to it, like a VW, there are plenty of replacement body parts available too.

http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Floorboards/FLOORPX
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I have been doing some reading tonight on drawing the gas tank removing it and cleaning it out with phosphoric acid as it will no doubt hold a bunch of rust. Also reading about changing the fuel line and removing and cleaning the carburetor jets. New spark plug. Thinking these are low cost steps I can take before I try to start it - increase chance that it will start - and will keep running. And then tune from there. Does that preliminary plan make sense?

Or should I first see if I get a spark like IMken suggests?
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Welcome to the forum!

Everything I know about Vespas I learned from VWs. You have the basics already. Just ask yourself, "What would John Muir do?"

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Rustbucket wrote:
I have been doing some reading tonight on drawing the gas tank removing it and cleaning it out with phosphoric acid as it will no doubt hold a bunch of rust. Also reading about changing the fuel line and removing and cleaning the carburetor jets. New spark plug. Thinking these are low cost steps I can take before I try to start it - increase chance that it will start - and will keep running. And then tune from there. Does that preliminary plan make sense?

Or should I first see if I get a spark like IMken suggests?
Sounds like you just want to check if it will fire up. Remove old fuel and replace with new, new fuel line, clean up the carburetor jets, new spark plug and kick it over to see if she fires up. If it fires up you can then move onto cleaning tank, carb rebuild, etc. Some of the guys that have bought scoots that have been sitting around while chime in. Listen to them.
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So, I'm not the only one who's noticed a similarity between old Vespas and old VWs, even in overall design.

Maybe I'm getting philosophical here...
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After I rebuilt the carb to get mine running after sitting for a long time I unhooked the fuel hose from the tank and clamped it so it was vertical and squeezed in my fuel mixture with a new cheap plastic mustard bottle to bypass the rusty tank. It was one less thing to worry about.
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Got a good look inside the tank tonight and it does not look that bad - will remove tanks clean refill nonetheless as thing has been sitting 10 plus years - throttle grip and choke appear to function - Haynes book came in today so I have a good security blanket to supplement this great forum.
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Also looks like I was wrong on the model: the frame number is VSX1T - and it is stamped manufactured 6/78 which means p200? Not p125? so bigger engine?
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HighlandRanchNY125 wrote:
After I rebuilt the carb to get mine running after sitting for a long time I unhooked the fuel hose from the tank and clamped it so it was vertical and squeezed in my fuel mixture with a new cheap plastic mustard bottle to bypass the rusty tank. It was one less thing to worry about.
Good move. I was going to suggest cheapo inline fuel filter to grab any gunk remaining after changing the gas.
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