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Ossessionato
1963 VBB2T
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Fri May 14, 2021 1:18 pm quote
Hey peeps, I put this new bench style seat on this spring thinking it would be better than the typical single spring in the front and hump passenger seat, and how do I put it, itís killing my ass. Is this type of seat need to be broken in or is it just typical ?
On the other hand I also installed a new rear shock and wow what a difference and when Iím riding two up with wife on the back itís super smooth.





Hooked
61 VBB and 79 P200
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Fri May 14, 2021 1:40 pm quote
That's a nice looking seat...where did you pick it up? My 42-year old P200 seat is starting to crack so I'm planning ahead. A curse on the previous owner who left this scoot in the elements too long.

Like a shoe, it will break in, but as someone with both styles of seats the feel is always gonna be different.
Style Maven
74 50s x3 78 P200 x2 84 Cosa PK50XL2 58 AllState 68 Sprint 80 50special '66(?) Super125
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Fri May 14, 2021 1:45 pm quote
I love this original style seat, butt if you are the wrong sized person and want to sit perched over the grab strap, then that brace will be a pain in the..... well, you know. You can also try this: you can easily pull a bunch of little clips, remove the cover and redo the foam with better stuff if yours is skimpy and you're sitting on the fiberboard insert.
Ossessionato
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Fri May 14, 2021 1:52 pm quote
Popgunandy wrote:
That's a nice looking seat...where did you pick it up? My 42-year old P200 seat is starting to crack so I'm planning ahead. A curse on the previous owner who left this scoot in the elements too long.

Like a shoe, it will break in, but as someone with both styles of seats the feel is always gonna be different.
I bought it at scootermercato as well as the rear shock, actually he pretty much got all my money.
Ossessionato
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Fri May 14, 2021 1:55 pm quote
V oodoo wrote:
I love this original style seat, butt if you are the wrong sized person and want to sit perched over the grab strap, then that brace will be a pain in the..... well, you know. You can also try this: you can easily pull a bunch of little clips, remove the cover and redo the foam with better stuff if yours is skimpy and you're sitting on the fiberboard insert.
Thatís a great idea, I literally feel the springs , Iím 200 lbs not sure if that is helping any.
Iím up to 250 miles on the motor breakin and feeling every mile.
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
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Fri May 14, 2021 6:09 pm quote
Whatís that black cable and electrical tape weirdness down low?
Ossessionato
79 P200E, 62 Allstate, 2008 Stella
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
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Location: Florence, OR
Fri May 14, 2021 7:13 pm quote
nomadinsiam wrote:
Whatís that black cable and electrical tape weirdness down low?


BTW, I find the stock seat extremely uncomfortable because of the spring tower is pretty much where I like to sit, so no benefit of the horizontal springs. I prefer the plastic based seats - like on the Stella..
bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x 2), 74 Primavera (x 2), 06 Fly 150
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Fri May 14, 2021 7:48 pm quote
Yeah, that hump in the middle is a major problem with the springy Sprint-style bench seat. Itís RIGHT where most people normally sit. They look nice but theyíre a royal pain especially on long rides. Either get used to sitting way forward or way back or get a different seat.

The wire looks like a CHT still needs to be installed.

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Ossessionato
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Fri May 14, 2021 7:53 pm quote
nomadinsiam wrote:
Whatís that black cable and electrical tape weirdness down low?
Thatís the temp gauge wire.Funny thing is Iím supposed to watch the temperature while running and itís supposed to stay below a certain number and if itís high itís running lean, problem is I canít see the numbers unless I have my readers on and really I donít recall what the good temperature is supposed to be. Iím too busy running it and having a blast , and yes behaving myself and not going wot.

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Ossessionato
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Fri May 14, 2021 7:54 pm quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Yeah, that hump in the middle is a major problem with the springy Sprint-style bench seat. Itís RIGHT where most people normally sit. Itís a royal pain especially on long rides. Get used to sitting way forward or way back or get a different seat.
I actually tried both today and youíre right on the money.
Ossessionato
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Fri May 14, 2021 7:57 pm quote
qascooter wrote:


BTW, I find the stock seat extremely uncomfortable because of the spring tower is pretty much where I like to sit, so no benefit of the horizontal springs. I prefer the plastic based seats - like on the Stella..
Iím confused as to which seat you mean is the stock although I do see what you mean by the Stella seat.
Ossessionato
79 P200E, 62 Allstate, 2008 Stella
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Fri May 14, 2021 8:09 pm quote
Lynnb wrote:
Iím confused as to which seat you mean is the stock although I do see what you mean by the Stella seat.
I meant your new bench seat Lynn. The P200 comes with a bench and my brain thought "stock" when it should've said "bench" or loaf of bread seat.
Ossessionato
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Fri May 14, 2021 8:20 pm quote
qascooter wrote:
I meant your new bench seat Lynn. The P200 comes with a bench and my brain thought "stock" when it should've said "bench" or loaf of bread seat.
Ahh ok , I recall you had a bench on your scoot.
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'66 Super 150
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Fri May 14, 2021 8:33 pm quote
Hey Lynn,

The seat LOOKS great, as does your beautiful blue scoot!

For what itís worth, I think I have the same exact seat. Initially when I sit on it, it always feels real cushy and comfy. Iím fairly petite and position myself far forward. But if I ride for very long or on rough roads, I definitely feel it the next day.

I wouldnít change my seat because Iím rather fond of it and I donít ride long distances and the discomfort isnít THAT bad, but I canít imagine sitting on that strap. Ouch!

Good luck finding your comfort zone!
Ossessionato
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Fri May 14, 2021 8:54 pm quote
Kimono32 wrote:
Hey Lynn,

The seat LOOKS great, as does your beautiful blue scoot!

For what itís worth, I think I have the same exact seat. Initially when I sit on it, it always feels real cushy and comfy. Iím fairly petite and position myself far forward. But if I ride for very long or on rough roads, I definitely feel it the next day.

I wouldnít change my seat because Iím rather fond of it and I donít ride long distances and the discomfort isnít THAT bad, but I canít imagine sitting on that strap. Ouch!

Good luck finding your comfort zone!
Thanks Kimono, excellent description, starts off cushy and then with the rough roads calls for stop.
Yep we have good taste in paint colour.
Addicted
1981 P200E / 1979 P200E / 1974 Rally 200
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Sat May 15, 2021 11:10 am quote
oh yeah. Those seats aren't very comfortable.

The Rally 200 seat is like the only one for old bikes that's suitable for long rides. :)
Ossessionato
1963 VBB2T
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Sat May 15, 2021 12:52 pm quote
hjo wrote:
oh yeah. Those seats aren't very comfortable.

The Rally 200 seat is like the only one for old bikes that's suitable for long rides.
Good thing I donít go out. Ore than an hour or so.
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
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Sat May 15, 2021 5:56 pm quote
Lynnb wrote:
Thatís the temp gauge wire.Funny thing is Iím supposed to watch the temperature while running and itís supposed to stay below a certain number and if itís high itís running lean, problem is I canít see the numbers unless I have my readers on and really I donít recall what the good temperature is supposed to be. Iím too busy running it and having a blast , and yes behaving myself and not going wot.
Haha! I thought it was just a little 150cc stock bike. What the heck are you worried about? Itís not like itís a sensitive high performance engine.🤣 Kind of like a buddy of mine who recently bought a blood pressure meter (as heís almost 60). Now he constantly watches it and worries all the time. I told him he should start smoking again to relax. 😁

Anyway, back to the seat. Either sitting forward or further back usually helps. Strangely enough, the most comfortable seat of all four of my bikes is the original GS160 frame with the Mauro Pascoli cover. Itís fairly low profile, very flat, minimal padding. The worst seat I ever had was an original small frame front only seat. I sold it and went back to a small frame bench seat.
Ossessionato
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Sat May 15, 2021 7:25 pm quote
nomadinsiam wrote:
Haha! I thought it was just a little 150cc stock bike. What the heck are you worried about? Itís not like itís a sensitive high performance engine.🤣 Kind of like a buddy of mine who recently bought a blood pressure meter (as heís almost 60). Now he constantly watches it and worries all the time. I told him he should start smoking again to relax. 😁

Anyway, back to the seat. Either sitting forward or further back usually helps. Strangely enough, the most comfortable seat of all four of my bikes is the original GS160 frame with the Mauro Pascoli cover. Itís fairly low profile, very flat, minimal padding. The worst seat I ever had was an original small frame front only seat. I sold it and went back to a small frame bench seat.
Itís a fresh build with a third port and a Dr 170 with now having 250 miles on it , Iím just following advice for a new motor breakin. Believe me I know zilch about 2 stroke motors, although Iíve built my own 4 stroke motors.
Yep tried both positions today , forward is better.
Molto Verboso
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Sat May 15, 2021 7:54 pm quote
Ah, so it is a bit of a hotrod.
Ossessionato
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Sat May 15, 2021 7:55 pm quote
nomadinsiam wrote:
Ah, so it is a bit of a hotrod.
I wouldnít call it a hot rod but sure runs nice, well near as I can tell
Hooked
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Sun May 16, 2021 6:15 am quote
Lynnb wrote:
Thatís the temp gauge wire.Funny thing is Iím supposed to watch the temperature while running and itís supposed to stay below a certain number and if itís high itís running lean, problem is I canít see the numbers unless I have my readers on and really I donít recall what the good temperature is supposed to be. Iím too busy running it and having a blast , and yes behaving myself and not going wot.
Definitely under 350į youíd like to stay around or below 300į
Molto Verboso
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Sun May 16, 2021 6:28 am quote
FridayMatinee wrote:
Definitely under 350į youíd like to stay around or below 300į
When my trail tech, hits 350įF, I know I'm beyond flirting with a soft seize. I was rubbing up against it, getting ready to make a mess.
Ossessionato
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Sun May 16, 2021 8:20 am quote
FridayMatinee wrote:
Definitely under 350į youíd like to stay around or below 300į
Thanks , I have been below 300.
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