So I rode around the neighborhood today (with a helmet!) and the old machine did admirably. The shift cables need adjusting. They are way too loose, and there are no lights whatsoever. The horn works when the switch is turned on for the lights, and the kill button works.
I took a look at the switch and the plastic housing was broken in half. I cleaned up the contact points and superglued it together. Still no lights.
Just for grins I pulled the flywheel to check out the points and condenser. It looks like somebody has been in there and replaced them They look good! I'll use the original manual to figure out how to set them.
Time to get out the meter and check continuity of all the wires and then the bulbs. I understand it all has to be good to work.
And I've got new cables and rubber on the way. And a knockoff speedo. The tires are....old....
Broken switch. Superglue to the rescue!
The previous owner bought the scooter in 1999. This tire is on the back. Still great tread.
This tire is on the front and still has great tread. Yikes! 41 years old!
Hey qua! Just read this whole thread start to finish on my afternoon sun break. A very enjoyable read. The highlight being the First Start and First Test Drive videos. I recognize that gleeful vespa smile. But I'm with your wife on the driving while filming
It's all good. Keep up the excellent work! What's the name of your new treasure? Cause "Blue" is taken. JK
Well, you may certainly nominate that name. Just know that I sing "Baby Blue" when I open the garage door and stroke my sweetie's cowl. We can share it though. And if you don't know the song, take a listen.
Just don't dog on country music or George Strait. Both are dear to my heart.
Mama Ruby and Uncle Whitey. Cracking me up ... I love it..
Well, I've been calling her Blue 62 cause, lets face it, she's got a fine bootie so it's definitely a "she" with all those sexy curves.
My wife votes for B-62. Not too feminine but I immediately thought of the B-52's and the song Roam...
Not dissin ole George Strait...... Thanks for the offer to share the name Kimono. I tried on Blue and kept thinking of your Blue and couldn't do it - it just didn't feel right.
Blue you're my boy!
Swiss, dude, where did you get from sexy ass scooters that are blue to "Blue, you're my boy!". Holy crap, too funny... You have an interesting mind my friend! Haha.
Ha - Funny you should say that, cause I was thinking BowChickkaBowBow.....
Hey, I'm loving B-62! The B can stand for so many things: blue, beautiful, badonkadonk....
I've been soaking the front rim in vinegar (of course) to knock off the rust, then cleaned it up with soap and water, and a wire wheel. Then I wiped them down with vinegar and primed them grey in preparation for painting them the same color as the body.
I'm going to pick up the paint tomorrow. I'm hoping the color is going to work.
Speaking of paint, I'm going to get a paint gun. Any recommendations? I've been looking at the HVLP gravity fed guns. The smaller nozzles, .8 to 2.0. I won't be painting the house with it, and it'll only be smaller jobs like a scooter, or rims.
I had to smile when I thought of asking the question after the welding info. Then I figured, hey, maybe I'll change the title of the thread to Welding and Painting 101! Ha! But seriously, any info would be good. I should've asked a few days ago cause I'm ready to buy something now.
Oh, and I got a box of parts! So I soaked the new glovebox cowl rubber in 303 protectant overnight and installed the glovebox. Now the back end is looking almost worthy of BowChickaBowBow....
I still need to try the license plate mount reversal to show off a little more of that sweet rounded back end...
I painted the engine shroud and the carb box cover.
The front hub
The front brakes. I need to clean it up in there.
The brake hub
Scrubbing the rim with soap and water and a fingernail brush after the three day soak in vinegar
Wire wheeling the rims to get them spotless, which is a breeze after the vinegar treatment.
Ready for paint. And I spaced taking an after primer picture!
The inside of the glovebox cowl is held on by six bolts coming out of the body. I put a bit of rubber innertube where the cowl mounting bracket scrapes against the frame.
Looking pretty sexy, even with the tail light rubber askew...
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You did a great job installing the cowl, looks killer w/ fresh rubber of the right color. Whole bike is lookin' good.
But what about the rust inside that cowl? What's it treated with?
My cowls were rustier than yours inside. I kept the old paint on the frame, but Ospho & self etching primer where cowl was rusty. Adding a color matching top coat or clearcoat wouldn't hurt.
Same used in here where you can see the Ospho turned the rust black.
This is down & dirty but works well, POR15 if you must have 1st class.
I use this(any angle feature is nice) or the Duplicolor equivalent, but there are 'pro' brands you can get too.
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[quote="Kimono32"]Hey, I'm loving B-62! The B can stand for so many things: blue, beautiful, badonkadonk.... [/
I really like B-62 for a name but here are a couple of other thoughts:
Gabriel Blue (Blew)
Turquoise Blue (Turk for short)
Little Boy Blue
Or if you wanted to add a touch of class, you could attach a copy of this to the leg shield and call it Blue Boy.
Hey Scott this May come a bit late, but if you not bought a spray gun yet....you may want to buy a touch up gun. They are a lot smaller and you mix up smaller portions. I have a bunch of spray guns and I almost always go back to using my touch up guns on scooter parts. The parts are smaller....as you know.
You must also have a good regulator and a water trap. Any moisture in the system will ruin a paint job. My guess is you have a decent size compressor. You will need to have a constant flow of about 40psi of air.
I'll show you what I use...works well for what I do. If I spray bigger parts than I have to use a paint booth. Let me know if you have any questions...scott
Paint equipment that I use here at home. Being you live in a high humidity area...the better the water trap you'll need. I cant stress enough....no water.
I payed a lot of money for the HVLP gun. I don't remember how much the touch up gun cost, but I think you can buy one for 50.00. The touch up gun I got from NAPA. It has worked great. They will last for ever if you clean them properly. Scott
Thanks for the name input! I'm liking B-62. And I can look at her and go Yeah Baby, BowChickkaBowbow.... Oh man, I feel so 16 sometimes...
And thanks Hibbert, Swiss, and CM. But the plate is the latest plate they give out at the DMV. I bid on a 1962 plate on EBay, but lost the bid. I'm keeping my eye out though. There are some cool ones.
And thanks for showing yours WhoDat - I'll be searching weekly for one on EBay. They've got a ton of them out there, just no 62's.
And Scott, THANK YOU for sharing your knowledge about paint paraphernalia. I ended up getting a smaller gun, thinking down those same lines. I tried to do better than the welder on gathering the proper info before making a decision this time.
EDIT: Thanks Jim for the pics of your setup! You've given me some ideas. I ended up buying a gun off Amazon. I'll post a pic after I use it.
Which leads me into, thank you Voodoo for mentioning the inside of the cowl glovebox. I took it off and it'll be where I practice with the paint sprayer. I'm going to Ospho it tomorrow, then prime, then paint the inside of the cowl. Thanks for the nudge!
I picked up the paint from Ron's Paint today. He did a fantastic job of matching. We'll see when I get more area covered, but he painted a corner of the rack on the edge and it's dang nice. I've got a pic down below.
So the next few days I'm going to paint the inside of the glovebox cowl, the rims and hubs, and get the brake areas cleaned up. And it looks like I have a leaky seal. Check out the pics.
Check it out - Ron didn't want me to pay him for the paint because he likes cool projects on cool rides! I gave him a $20 of course!
Ron tested the paint color by painting the bottom curve of the rack. I think it blends pretty nicely with the rest of the side.
You can see the brush strokes in this pic. The only way I could find the area is to feel where it felt tacky.
Here are the primer'd rims. I'm going to give them a quick wet sand and they'll be ready for spray.
Took off the rear hub to paint. I need to clean up in there, and it looks a bit leaky....
Can you paint that on without a clear coat layer? I'm curious how that affects the paint lifetime, if it will chip easier or if it has some sort of hard protectant ingredient in it that acts as a clear coat as part of the paint?
Also just watched scooterwest video about rebuilding p200 front fork today so it is fresh in my mind and now that I'm seeing your hubs primed it reminded me that Robot suggests to mask off the threads on the studs when painting hubs so you don't damage the fresh paint when you put the bolts on. He also suggests leaving the tips of the studs unmasked so you get the touch of paint on the ends of the studs, while leaving the threads clean!
Looks good scott. The paint match looks good. My guess is....it is a single stage paint. Needs no clear coat. If I'm doing small pieces I don't use a paint booth. I will paint outside in good weather on the side of my house.
Painting a lot of parts you can make a make shift paint booth like Jim did in the post above.
Check your pm box...thanks scott
Good one. I'll hit them with a wire brush and the tap and die before I reinstall. It would've been easier to tape them off, but I still want to run them in the Die and the bolts through the Tap, or is it the other way around....
Robot suggests to mask off the threads on the studs when painting hubs so you don't damage the fresh paint when you put the bolts on.
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Adding a hardner to that paint will give you much better results.
Thanks! - I'll give it a shot...
Adding a hardner to that paint will give you much better results.
And Hibbert - Come on up to the Central Oregon Coast and I'll introduce you to Ron, of Ron's Paint. He remembers everyone's name that walks through the door - seriously, it's freaky...
Re: Sweet Garage
Functional and fantastic looking! And you're not hijacking my friend. Everybody loves to see garages they can aspire towards, and yours is one of them!
Thanks, it is a working garage, not just for pretty. The hats are all moto hats.
Sorry for the hijack!
While I'm waiting for the hardener to arrive (and a few other things), I primed a few parts, and cleaned up the headlight assembly.
I was able to save the original seal for the headlight by carefully removing it with a razorblade and soaking it in 303 protectant. It looks a little better, but the main thing is there is no surface rust and everything is polished and coated.
Primed the worst of the glovebox cowl in prep for matching paint. I'll practice in this area. Who am I kidding - it'll all be practice! Ha!
Rear hub primed. I went with this color primer because it's the same color primer underneath the paint originally
Headlamp before polishing
Rusty holding clips. Cleaned these with a wire wheel and steel wool
Rubber seal before I took it out and soaked it in protectant. I also polished the reflect surface with Mothers...
Surface rust on the inside of the ring. All that polished off nicely
Finished product. Doesn't look too different, but it's clean.
Back side of the light showing the clean backside of the ring.
Did some more cleaning, while I'm waiting to paint. I also cleaned the brake shoes themselves and gave them a sanding with 120 grit.
I used Kerosene, wire brush, screwdriver, and a bunch of rags for most of the cleaning. Also KrudKutter. It's a messy job, but hey, it looks a lot better now!
Here's a before pic
Removed the shoes...
Cleaned up the brake plate and a bunch of other stuff I could reach.
Cleaned brake shoes reinstalled. Much better. I greased the pivot points also.
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