Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:02 am

Hooked
Bodgerific 150 Super, PX200(ish...), US 50 Special in progress
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:02 am linkquote
Yep - works a treat, with thanks to a lot of folks here, you included. Thanks to all!

Jetting is a weird story on this one, I'll try to write it up next week. Currently I'm struggling with the PHBH 30 on Hanoi Jane, and that's going very very badly. A 24/24 is a doddle compare to a PHBH so far.
Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:20 am

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1992
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 5:20 am linkquote
Gt6MK3 wrote:
Yep - works a treat, with thanks to a lot of folks here, you included. Thanks to all!

Jetting is a weird story on this one, I'll try to write it up next week. Currently I'm struggling with the PHBH 30 on Hanoi Jane, and that's going very very badly. A 24/24 is a doddle compare to a PHBH so far.
I'm more of a measure person and want to give a air/fuel meter a try, would be nice to measure lean, rich etc. Might make setup a bit easier.
Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:29 am

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Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:29 am linkquote
Damn. Ride looks like it was glorious.
Minnow looks like she's turned out to be a reliable tourer; words more often spoken then achieved.
Nice!
Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:19 am

bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:19 am linkquote
Well done. This is what it's all about.
Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm

Molto Verboso
Vespa
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 8:04 pm linkquote
great Photo's the tree's look beautiful
Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:34 am

Style Maven
'74 50s x3 '78 P200 E '84 Cosa '91 PK50XL2 '58 AllState '68 Sprint '80 50special and a '66(?) Super125
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Fri Feb 28, 2020 11:34 am linkquote
Well OK..... all is forgiven. You done good and that scooter too.

You guys need to send your pics to the Aussie Tourist Bureau, that place almost looks nice enough to visit.
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Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:06 am

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Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:06 am linkquote
The Minnow has proven so reliable and fun that I'm loath to fiddle with her. but I know the jetting is completely weird.

I faffed about with it trying to get the JackStack running before last years Mille, but ran out of time.

Eventually I just fiddled round till I had consistant numbers on the AFR, and not stoopid numbers on the CHT.

She'll do 118kmph on the flat at wot pretty much forever, and has never been over 370F. But, I know she' running rich (the spark plug tod me so the one time I pulled it, and Ginch commented on it following me this weekend.) Uphill, she runs out of legs and wont hold over 98kmph, even on a gentle slope.

So it's time to get the good folk here to chime in and see if I can improve on what's happening.

1984 PX200E
Standard gearing
Standard Crank
Malossi 210 Sport
Cases Ported
Kytronik 2016 curve 1 = 23° @ 3000rpm - 16° @ 7000rpm
BGM Fast Fuel tap
Polini Venturi
Sip road 2 with "VoodooSlot"
SIP touring flywheel
DRT 24/24 float chamber
Be9 plug.

Top speed on flat 118km. Will hold WOT for an hour (literally) without going over 360F on a 20 degree C day. Has seen 369 once on a hot windy day freeway 30 minute wot run.

Current jetting

146MJ BE3 AC160
55-100 idle
60 Choke

It's crisp through the gears, it doesn't bog or cough, and doesn't get over 330F except long WOT runs. It's deffo rich though.

Thoughts to change things around? I need it to do 1000km's in 2 days 3 weeks from now, so I can't afford to blow it up...
Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:06 am

Jet Eye Master
PX221 MHR, O tuned PX200, PX125 and some motorbikes
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Jet Eye Master
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Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:06 am linkquote
You've been lucky running like that. Don't look at the piston crown until you get back.

AC120 BE3 135MJ to splutter and work down from there. 52/140 is a nice pilot to end up on. Carb must be drilled to 2.1mm.

Fuel economy would be better on this jetting but as it will go faster, you're going to be thrashing the life out of it all the way.
Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:22 am

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1992
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
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2007 Stella 225
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Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:22 am linkquote
I've had two different motors with two different temperature gauges that started seizing about 360F, I don't understand how some people run that warm and get away with it.
Gt6MK3 wrote:
The Minnow has proven so reliable and fun that I'm loath to fiddle with her. but I know the jetting is completely weird.

I faffed about with it trying to get the JackStack running before last years Mille, but ran out of time.

Eventually I just fiddled round till I had consistant numbers on the AFR, and not stoopid numbers on the CHT.

She'll do 118kmph on the flat at wot pretty much forever, and has never been over 370F. But, I know she' running rich (the spark plug tod me so the one time I pulled it, and Ginch commented on it following me this weekend.) Uphill, she runs out of legs and wont hold over 98kmph, even on a gentle slope.

So it's time to get the good folk here to chime in and see if I can improve on what's happening.

1984 PX200E
Standard gearing
Standard Crank
Malossi 210 Sport
Cases Ported
Kytronik 2016 curve 1 = 23° @ 3000rpm - 16° @ 7000rpm
BGM Fast Fuel tap
Polini Venturi
Sip road 2 with "VoodooSlot"
SIP touring flywheel
DRT 24/24 float chamber
Be9 plug.

Top speed on flat 118km. Will hold WOT for an hour (literally) without going over 360F on a 20 degree C day. Has seen 369 once on a hot windy day freeway 30 minute wot run.

Current jetting

146MJ BE3 AC160
55-100 idle
60 Choke

It's crisp through the gears, it doesn't bog or cough, and doesn't get over 330F except long WOT runs. It's deffo rich though.

Thoughts to change things around? I need it to do 1000km's in 2 days 3 weeks from now, so I can't afford to blow it up...
Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:59 am

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Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:59 am linkquote
Christopher - two main factors I've experienced.
1. Temp gauge brand and how it's connected.
- For those that screw directly in the head - 300° under plug = 350° directly screwed in to head. So you need to know the connection type.
- Brand: Koso and Trailtech have two different insulation designs on their lead - and they get air cooled effecting them differently. I believe Trailtech reads lower for this reason as it is more effected by the air cooling of the flywheel (there has been some writing on the trail tech in the past that Ginch posted somewhere on my thread).

2. Aluminum vs Iron cylinders. I have seen over 400° on my BGM aluminum (hey - I am a little aggressive on CM speed jetting...). My Polini would absolutely seize the rear wheal screeching at 311°. Just say no.

So if you were using a trail tech and it was under a spark plug - or worse - under a stud - your 360° is my ~410°.
Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:43 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
Joined: 30 Nov 2011
Posts: 8109
Location: Victoria, Australia
 
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Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:43 pm linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
Christopher - two main factors I've experienced.
1. Temp gauge brand and how it's connected.
- For those that screw directly in the head - 300° under plug = 350° directly screwed in to head. So you need to know the connection type.
- Brand: Koso and Trailtech have two different insulation designs on their lead - and they get air cooled effecting them differently. I believe Trailtech reads lower for this reason as it is more effected by the air cooling of the flywheel (there has been some writing on the trail tech in the past that Ginch posted somewhere on my thread).

2. Aluminum vs Iron cylinders. I have seen over 400° on my BGM aluminum (hey - I am a little aggressive on CM speed jetting...). My Polini would absolutely seize the rear wheal screeching at 311°. Just say no.

So if you were using a trail tech and it was under a spark plug - or worse - under a stud - your 360° is my ~410°.
Plus

timing

...and
timing
Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:35 pm

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Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:35 pm linkquote
^ what he said.
(I heard you twice the first time).
Timing can make you hotter - but it can also hide how hot you actually are.
Too much retard (don't say it) and you hide the heat in the ex. port.
Apparently...

Craig - my $.02:
Trouble with jetting is - you get great at it after you have done all the damage.
Then you forget half of what you learned the next time and re-do 1/2 the damage on your next effort.

My view - the hardest part isn't the adjusting - or even the starting point.
It's knowing which direction is making it better or worse.
Like a college fraternity party where the pledges get dropped in the woods.
With blindfolds.
Naked.

Anyhow -Here are a few of my fave indicators as a primer - off the top of my head - no particular order - if helpful as you restart.
- Choose your AC - that's the platform
- If you can't get splutter with less than a 130 main jet - move down to the next AC - your float bowl hole is limiting you. CAUTION.
- IK some like to tune in their SI's around a MJ130 - but I prefer a MJ120 target as the outcome.
- Reason: If an SI can be tuned to a 120MJ, then the float bowl hole is not the limiting factor. 130 is cutting it fine - in my experience.

As everyone always notes: start rich and walk down/ chop plugs. Sounds nice but I have a full time job. When I am out testing - I wanna blast to within 1 or maybe 2 sizes from what will end up being optimal on a single outing.
- To do this - I like to run it WOT under load - like 3rd on the hwy or up a long hill if you got one - for about a minute.
- Surprisingly - the plug will change color in as little as a minute of hard run like that - as long as it had a color before. DONT USE A NEW PLUG.
- But you gotta shut it down while you are blasting to get the best read on where your color is going - like at the top of the exit ramp - and coast down. This avoids repeated need to pull the plug and take it home and chop it in half like jeffery dammer. Just pull it and have a look/take a photo/change a jet/do it again. You'll get close quickly.
- Your watching for it to change away from black charcoal soot to toasted marshmallow. Again - this will knife edge - meaning it will just stay black charcoal sooty - then suddenly its time for s'mores.
- Dremel your bell mouth - so you can remove the jets from the top - and loctite the allen head holding the bell mouth on...
- Me: I tune with the air filter and box top off - until I come close. Then I put them back on and go one jet leaner (cause having it off makes it at least one jet richer). Not everyone likes that approach... but I find it speeds my process.
- If you use the same stretch of road each time - watch your temps and make note of where they settle. I find that I can go through many sizes of jets without change - but I will suddenly hit a tipping point. Can be helpful.
- Sound. When you have it nailed - it will make a sound when you twist it WOT that just never comes from any of your other jets. When I hear this - I stop paying attention to my temp gauge most of the time - cause I know I am on it.

Don't blow it up!
🙂


Leaving top off and cutting bell mouth back like this - I can get pretty close in about 30 minutes. Then there is a next round of fine tuning... of course...

Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:05 am

Jet Eye Master
PX221 MHR, O tuned PX200, PX125 and some motorbikes
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Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:05 am linkquote
One more pearl of wisdom: If you're not sure its rich or lean, can't decide, could go either way; it's lean, it's always lean. When you don't know what to do....upjet. Saves a lot of expense and misery.
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:46 am

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Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:46 am linkquote
Jack221 wrote:
One more pearl of wisdom: If you're not sure its rich or lean, can't decide, could go either way; it's lean, it's always lean. When you don't know what to do....upjet. Saves a lot of expense and misery.
perhaps that should have been your first post on MY thread.
Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:46 am

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Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:46 am linkquote
Jack221 wrote:
One more pearl of wisdom: If you're not sure its rich or lean, can't decide, could go either way; it's lean, it's always lean. When you don't know what to do....upjet. Saves a lot of expense and misery.
perhaps that should have been your first post on MY thread.
Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:13 am

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1992
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
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Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:13 am linkquote
Jack221 wrote:
One more pearl of wisdom: If you're not sure its rich or lean, can't decide, could go either way; it's lean, it's always lean. When you don't know what to do....upjet. Saves a lot of expense and misery.
And if you want to know what rich feels like, take out the main jet, and try running WOT.
Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:00 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:00 pm linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
Jack221 wrote:
One more pearl of wisdom: If you're not sure its rich or lean, can't decide, could go either way; it's lean, it's always lean. When you don't know what to do....upjet. Saves a lot of expense and misery.
perhaps that should have been your first post on MY thread.
Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:33 pm

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Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:33 pm linkquote
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Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:55 am

Hooked
Bodgerific 150 Super, PX200(ish...), US 50 Special in progress
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Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:55 am linkquote
At the finish line of "Not the Mille", I discovered the SS Minnow no longer had any lights. None at all, including no brake lights. Her battery was also flat, and the glass lens of the headlight had shaken loose and was about to fall out.

So I sticky taped the headlight lens in, and rode home. Then she got parked.

I've been too busy to play since, but last week I finally got some wrench time.

The Headlight lens required 50 cents worth of superglue for a quick fix, but the lack of lights and charge pointed to a bigger problem.

First choice villain was the stator, and when I pulled it out and hit the light circuit with a multimeter, it showed a dead short. Culprit found. I could frig around with it, but new ones are less than the cost of the time it would take to fix.

I also discovered that my starter had died a mechanical death. When it has power it whirrs and gyrates, but nothing happens at the business end. What the heck, I still have a kickstarter, I figured I'd fix the power gremlins first.

So I ordered a new stator. When it arrived, things got wierder. It's a good quality part from a reputable supplier.

When installed, my idle was rough as guts, and both the RPM meter and the Kheper app showed ridiculous rev numbers - double or triple what the bike was actually doing.

That led me to suspect that Jack had got his wish, and the Kheper had finally failed. During my pre NTM checks, I'd found that the Kheper secondary earth lead was compromised from wear and shaking, so I was kinda expecting failure eventually.

Last week someone on Facebook was selling an elecstart PX200E motor ridiculously cheap her in town, so I now have a spare. I order to do some testing, I pulled off the CDI, figuring it would get me going. I also took the time to pull the stator.

Today I put on the stator from the other engine. Suddenly, the idle was fine, and the RPM's were normal. It's not the Kheper, it's the new stator.

So I put the new stator back on, vidoed the over-rev, screen capped the Kheper app, and then wacked back in the good one, and did the same.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZG9h5ZzjCks

I have no idea how the "new" stator is producing 2-3 times as many sparks.

Anyone experienced that?
Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:16 am

Ossessionato
VSX, Stella 177, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9B1T
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Sat Mar 13, 2021 7:16 am linkquote
I have seen that when I have set my tach to wrong settings. Its almost like your tach is set to read 2 cylinder engine rpms instead of 1 cylinder rpms, but since you are not changing your tach settings, as to how only changing a stator plate can do that I have no idea? Could there be similar stator plates built for a multi-cylinder engine that the manufacturer accidentally shipped/labeled the wrong one to you? Just taking a wild guess, but probably wrong.
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Fri May 07, 2021 5:08 am

Hooked
Bodgerific 150 Super, PX200(ish...), US 50 Special in progress
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Fri May 07, 2021 5:08 am linkquote
How to spindle an engine flyside:

Step 1. Cultivate a friendship with someone that owns a CNC mill.


Step 2. Put your flyside on the mill. Program in the cut, and clamp the workpiece.


Step 3. Center the workpiece in the mill using a dial gauge.


Step 4. Spin tool, press button, make swarf. Job done.


Step 5. (Step 5 is optional, and not recommended). While driving home discover not one, but 2 flat tyres, and call for pickup.

Fri May 07, 2021 11:10 am

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Fri May 07, 2021 11:10 am linkquote
Pft.
Anyone can fly cut cases with a mill.
(Which is why I am shopping for a mill!)
🙂

Car: is ur girlfriend angry?
Fri May 07, 2021 12:25 pm

Addicted
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
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Fri May 07, 2021 12:25 pm linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
Pft.
Anyone can fly cut cases with a mill.
(Which is why I am shopping for a mill!)
🙂

Car: is ur girlfriend angry?


Nice work Gt6MK3 !
Fri May 07, 2021 11:45 pm

Jet Eye Master
PX221 MHR, O tuned PX200, PX125 and some motorbikes
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Fri May 07, 2021 11:45 pm linkquote
Biggest question here is, what are you building? They look like Malossi casings being prepped for a 62mm crank.
Sun May 09, 2021 6:55 am

Hooked
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Sun May 09, 2021 6:55 am linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
Car: is ur girlfriend angry?
Wow. Vehicular shade being thrown by a guy who needs a third wheel to stay upright?
Jack221 wrote:
Biggest question here is, what are you building? They look like Malossi casings being prepped for a 62mm crank.
62mm is so 2020.

Mon May 10, 2021 5:03 am

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Mon May 10, 2021 5:03 am linkquote
It was a slash your tires joke - but I kinda like your reading better.
+1: sure looks like some is prepping for a 62mm crank...
Was 244 not sufficient?
Mon May 10, 2021 5:17 am

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Mon May 10, 2021 5:17 am linkquote
If you ain't blown up a motor you ain't been having fun!
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Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:24 am

Hooked
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Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:24 am linkquote
Lockdown in winter isn't very conducive to wanting to play with spanners outside, but springtime and daylight savings have finally hit, so I headed outside for a weak top up of vitamin D.

The Minnow needs some work before she gets her heart transplant, the very least of which is a wash or two.

Wash #1 was comprehensive, and mostly effective



Before we create, first we must destroy.



Stripdown has commenced.
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:45 am

Hooked
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Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:45 am linkquote
Is that a GT6??
Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:48 pm

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Fri Oct 08, 2021 5:48 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Is that a GT6??
Yep.


One of my favorite things.

Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:39 pm

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Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:39 pm linkquote
uh huh
https://youtu.be/33o32C0ogVM
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:41 pm

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Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:41 pm linkquote
Saw the wash up on my phone.
Was like. Wow - he's out in the snow cleaning.
Hahaha - just saw it was soap.
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:44 pm

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79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2505
Location: Florence, OR
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:44 pm linkquote
Dang, I totally missed that! I had a GT6 MK2+ hard top I restored in the 80s. Fun, fun car. I ordered parts out of a catalog, sent a check with the parts I wanted, and two months later got a box of parts. Much easier in todays world...

Dual Stromburgs with the water line running behind them to heat up the fuel entering the carbs. Fun to learn and rebuild. I got the car as a bunch of parts, rebuilt the transmission, cleaned up and got the engine running, replaced rear donuts, suspension, etc. It was cool driving down PCH in that thing - it was so low to the ground.
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:19 am

Hooked
Bodgerific 150 Super, PX200(ish...), US 50 Special in progress
Joined: 18 Aug 2016
Posts: 442
Location: Melbourne, Way Downunder
 
Hooked
Bodgerific 150 Super, PX200(ish...), US 50 Special in progress
Joined: 18 Aug 2016
Posts: 442
Location: Melbourne, Way Downunder
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:19 am linkquote
It's a hard one to explain to anyone who hasn't driven a tiny little car, filled with the scents, sights, and sounds of a British sports car, low to the ground and feeling like your at the speed of sound. I've had it for over 30 years. I had an MGB for a few years in my 20's, but when I saw a GT6 I was immediately, and when I drove one and opened up that straight 6, I just had to have one. And yes CM2, I do feel the same joy J.A. did on the mountainside when I get to fang it down a highway.

The burgundy MK3 has had a long journey - it now runs MegaSquirt fuel injection, a Toyota 5 speed , and a Quaife LSD. Goes really well till it breaks (remind you of anything?). The very long story of it's various rebuilds is here if your interested https://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/5166-craigs-gt6-mk3-in-aus/

I have another waiting i the wings, a convertible Spitfire Mk3 on Gt6 running gear, known as 6Fire. I bought it as a project



And spent 2 years turning it into this:



2.5 litre Straight 6, Toyota 5 speed, Leather seats, Speedhut gauges, Megasquirt Fuel injection, Stainless headers, Cosmic wheels, all the trimmings...Which is where I stalled, 'cos I started playing with Vespas. It's story is here:
Quote:
https://sideways-technologies.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/7042-craigs-6fire-in-aus/
I've been stuck with the Minnow - I needed to drop the 220 sport engine to keep at the upgrades, but I was wanting to build a mock engine frame so I could wheel it around and work on it. Problem is my welding gear is further away than lockdown allows me to travel. So this afternoon, I bit the bullet and knocked up a quick trolley out of wood and some wheels I had lying around.


Problem solved, engine out, frame mobile...

Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:37 am

Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 4244
Location: Nashville
 
Lucky
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 4244
Location: Nashville
Sat Oct 09, 2021 4:37 am linkquote
My dad had pretty much the whole run of British sports cars back before I was born when he was in college and then the navy. At one time or another, he had an MGB, a Spitfire, an Austin-Healy, and a couple others I can't recall. He used to have to take the Spitfire onto the docks and have the Engineers' Mates (he was the Engineering Officer at that point) weld the exhaust back on every couple weeks.
Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:08 am

bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 6215
Location: So Cal
 
bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x2), 74 Primavera (x2), 79 P200, 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 6215
Location: So Cal
Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:08 am linkquote
I've had a few old Brit heaps myself (no GT6 tho, sadly). Of all of them, the '68 Spitfire might've had the lowest driving position. I learned to avoid pulling up next to large trucks at stop lights because the operator's head was pretty much at the exact height as their exhaust pipes. It was no DB5 but I often imagined if I was James Bond being chased by bad guys, I could escape by driving under an 18-wheeler.
Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:01 pm

Ossessionato
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
Joined: 26 Jan 2019
Posts: 2639
Location: california
 
Ossessionato
62 VBB1T Round Tail W/ leaner sidecar
Joined: 26 Jan 2019
Posts: 2639
Location: california
Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:01 pm linkquote
I'm on the list as well.
My Dad's students called it "the blue dent".
Had seen better times than here in '71...
Guessing it was an early 60's model Spitfire
Second gear synchros were gone - didnt know it then but I recall this:

ALICE!! You HAVE to rev the engine a bit to match your speed!

Hahahaha.
My pop.


My old man having some fun at the wheel with the family dog

Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:29 am

Hooked
Bodgerific 150 Super, PX200(ish...), US 50 Special in progress
Joined: 18 Aug 2016
Posts: 442
Location: Melbourne, Way Downunder
 
Hooked
Bodgerific 150 Super, PX200(ish...), US 50 Special in progress
Joined: 18 Aug 2016
Posts: 442
Location: Melbourne, Way Downunder
Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:29 am linkquote
As the smallest kid in the school for my first 3 years of High School (that's ages 12-14 over here) I didn't rate an actual seat on the somewhat crowded school bus in the late 70's. Instead, I perched on the engine cover, beside the driver. Keen observer of all things mechanical, I therefor knew (theoretically) how to shift a crash box before I was even given the chance, and was itching to give it a go. I'd been driving clutchless ride-on mowers since I was 7, so a bus felt do-able...

While staying on my Great Uncle's farm for the weekend at 14, he bogged the farm ute, and asked me if I knew how to drive, so he could lever it out of the rut with a fencepost.

Knowing the chance wouldn't come again, I happily went with "Sure!" and jumped into the drivers seat. The 50's ute was 3 on the tree, not a floor mounted shifter like the busses I'd fantasy driven, but I'd been around them for long enough to fake it.

Clutch in, into first, revs, clutch, wheelspin, Uncle Swearing, rear end sliding, and I was off. "Go Go Go", from Uncle Charlie, Rev's matched, and I was miraculously into second, and headed across the paddock.

Feeling 10 feet tall, I hit the brakes to let him back in. Sadly I forgot the clutch when I braked, and stalled. Which led to questions about my actual driving experience.

Uncle Charlie was a great sport. By the time I was 15 he had me driving solo (very illegally) into his local country town for groceries.

When I turned 17 and was legally able to get my learners permit, my parents (bless em), gifted me 10 driving lessons with the local driving school to "get me started".

Everyone should have an Uncle Charlie. Everyone should learn to drive a crash box.
Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:22 am

Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2505
Location: Florence, OR
 
Ossessionato
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 2008 Stella (Olive)
Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 2505
Location: Florence, OR
Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:22 am linkquote
Gt6MK3 wrote:
Everyone should have an Uncle Charlie. Everyone should learn to drive a crash box.
Awesome story!

I learned on VWs and an old Ford school bus that was the RV for us five kids, mom & dad, and the dog and cat, and of course friends. I was aleays the one helping fix the cars, bus, etc. I digress.

One time when I was 12 I was going camping in Rose Valley with my sister to help her with an astronomy project.

We get three blocks from the house and she pulls over and her boyfriend pulls up on his motorcycle and she jumps out and says "follow us!"

Of course there is no way I'm gonna follow a motorcycle and keep up so I just headed off, by myself, to Rose Valley, from Oxnard, CA. I drove the only way I remembered to get there, and Rose Valley is on the top of Pine Mountain.

Fortunately, every once in a while a motorcycle would pull up and give the "thumbs up - you OK?" Sign. All was good, just thrilling, and stressful, and crazy, like my sister. This is the one that taught me how to hock a luggi. Ha.

Anyway, I made it and really learned to drive on that trip. She even let me drive us home. I was on the top of the world.

I got my license when I could, 16th birthday. My sister's would always take me camping and let me drive. I was also their mechanic after all

Good times. Thanks again for the story!
Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:39 pm

Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
Joined: 26 May 2013
Posts: 4189
Location: That bushfire place
 
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2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
Joined: 26 May 2013
Posts: 4189
Location: That bushfire place
Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:39 pm linkquote
I think these stories need their own post, else they will get lost in here
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