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In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
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Touring300 wrote:
Attila wrote:
The beauty of Made in Italy is this but there is also the flip side (metaphor).
Minimizing I would say that if it does not rust a little or there is no small defect it is not a good Italian product, the beauty is that it is not a boring product ... it always gives you something to do but it is ultimately more source of satisfaction. Japanese models are so boring, they don't break and if they do they are immediately repaired. It is not so..?
I see, so part of the Piaggio ethos is to build a scooter that is inherently flawed, and by doing so, it becomes a more 'interesting' machine to own?
Yes but it does not do it consciously ... the method is "theoretically" perfect and also the design but in the end it is the man and not the machine that makes the difference and if ... you notice, if ... the worker does not work with passion (is it difficult? It depends ...) is the weak link in the production process.
I'm not saying that they are not good at working but in my opinion when making an object there are "critical moments" where maximum concentration is needed. Here ... where rust is formed, assembly must be checked before, during and after including sealing and painting (locally); why doesn't it happen? Easy, the answer is: time!
Time is money and if statistically the defect is less than a small percentage, it is not advisable to carry out checks.
If it happens under warranty (how much is the guarantee in U.S.A.?) O.K. otherwise a topic is opened in Modern Vespa.

PS: I know ... you don't believe me and I don't blame them but every people has its ways that are reflected on many things, but if the price to pay is some small defect that matters? Nothing is really perfect.
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It's worth reminding folk that cosmetic issues are covered under the standard Piaggio warranty. A rusty seam or a corroded wheel should be covered. However, Piaggio as standard always refuse a warranty claim the first time round, so your dealer must persevere!
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It's true... but many give up, it is a right to have what they paid for
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