The Cigno? The Swan? 200? Hmmmmm..... Automatic or manual? This isn't the L-Series, but I think more people would much rather putt around town on one of these as opposed to the Adly.
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Somebody is dreaming or hallucinating, I can't tell which. Don't hold your breath waiting to see those scooters.
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this came up on the bbs a few weeks back with no discernible answers other than the fact that the "innocenti" marque is still owned by fiat.
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jrsjr wrote: Somebody is dreaming or hallucinating, I can't tell which. Don't hold your breath waiting to see those scooters. |
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They certainly look like an artist's rendering vs. a real scooter, especially the fact that they look like you would scrape the bottom on every turn--but goddamn do I think they are cool looking.
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I've heard the trademark "Lambretta" is owned (or at least managed) by SIL and the Khuranas are licensing it from them. I don't know how "Innocenti" fits into that. Calling them "Innocentis" is driving the knife even further into my heart, just as I'm admitting to myself that they can call anything a Lambretta if they pay enough money for the rights, it seems even more wrong to ressurrect the name of the parent company. At least "Lambretta International Lambretta" or "Serveta Lambretta" or "Khurana Lambretta" or "SIL Lambretta" doesn't actually try to pass them off as being made in italy by the same company that made them in the old days.
I've never heard anything about Fiat owning Innocenti, since Innocenti made Minis at one point and Fiat owned Piaggio at one point, it would seem like Innocenti was a direct competitor of Fiat at least twice, but anything is possible in the government-bailout, wacky, schizophrenic world of Italian corporations. I've heard a rumor that these are coming out the same day as the CMSI "L"series "Lambretta." And they both will have an anti-gravity device that will allow you to fly them to your unicorn farm in time for your date with Scarlett Johanssen. |
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Looks like a rendering and there are several things I don't see making the transition to reality. Mostly in the way of how various parts are going to be made.
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I seem to recall lambretta.com being linked to before, either here or on another forum, and it was a place holder page, with different images.
Am I just getting confused with the proliferation lammy wannabes? Whois.net lists the domain owner as BRANDCONCERN BV, out of Amsterdam ??? |
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In 1990, De Tomaso sold Innocenti to Fiat, and the Innocenti Mini's days were numbered; production finally ceased with the closure of the factory in March 1993, but the Innocenti name lived on until 1996, on cars imported to Italy by Fiat (namely, the Yugo 45 and the Brazilian Uno-based Elba).
i know it doesn't really say if they still own it, but it appears it was based on the micro cars that innocenti produced. |
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I was in a shop today...
I was in a shop today that had sold 3 Adly Lambrettas in one day..
So they are selling even if people on the BBS and here on Modern Vespa dont want them. |
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Anyone know when Fiat owned Piaggio. I was unfortunate enough to own a Fiat way back when.
One cold Minnesota winter evening, temperature about -20, I went out to start the car and put my foot down to engage the clutch and it snapped off. The clutch not my foot. The was just the half of it, parts were hard to get and I needed many. Owned it for only about six or seven months. |
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jaqt wrote: Anyone know when Fiat owned Piaggio. It was planned that he would run Piaggio but unfortunately he got ill and subsequently died of cancer. After that, Piaggio was sold to a foreign investment firm and has been sold one more time, this time to an italian businessman. |
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Re: Seen www.lambretta.com today?
manoman wrote: [url]www.lambretta.com[/url] The Cigno? The Swan? 200? Hmmmmm..... Automatic or manual? This isn't the L-Series, but I think more people would much rather putt around town on one of these as opposed to the Adly. |
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Below quoted from sputnik on stellaspeed forum for what I believe is the same thread you started there....
Quote: this is what our friend(s) at 2strokebuzz has to say about it Quote: These are due out the same day as the CMSI "L"series "Lambretta" and the Khurana/SIP metal-bodied 4-speed Lambretta GP. And they will all have an anti-gravity device that will allow you to fly them to your unicorn farm at 300 miles an hour, in time for your date with Scarlett Johanssen. The domain is registered to someone in the Netherlands. Someone with a vivid imagination and a pirated copy of Lightwave 3D. Go ahead, anyone, prove me wrong. |
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twharton wrote: Below quoted from sputnik on stellaspeed forum for what I believe is the same thread you started there.... Note that it's not Lambretta International (the Khuranas in Seattle, which is probably what punkelf saw, that's lambrettausa.com) but someone else (in Holland maybe) claiming to be Innocenti. That makes four companies (these guys, khurana, CMSI, and PM Tuning) all claiming to have new Lambrettas in the works. (though CMSI and PM are theoretically working together, and the Khuranas used to be involved in that team, too. On top of that, there's SiL, (Scooters India Limited, the last maker of the Lambretta in the 90s) who may or may not be working with the Khuranas. In my experience, the weirder and less believeable something is, the more likely someone will email me the next day with proof that it's true. I would have never bet in a thousand years that the Gilera Fuoco would come to the US, for instance. But I really doubt this will go anywhere, it could even be a student project or just someone who happened to catch the domain name when someone else let it lapse, trying to rile people up. |
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ericalm wrote: Well, whatever it actually is at least it looks like a Lambretta. Kevin |
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astromags wrote: Definitely CGI. Nice to look at, but the fact that there's almost zero clearance for front suspension travel would make the bike so rigid it would shake the teeth out of your head or worse. Sadly, still better looking in many ways compared to the actual "new" Lambretta. |
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Re: I was in a shop today...
Lucky Bastard wrote: I was in a shop today that had sold 3 Adly Lambrettas in one day.. So they are selling even if people on the BBS and here on Modern Vespa dont want them. Truth be told, I'd rather have more Adly/Lambrettas on the road than cars or trucks. Hell, I'd take the crappiest of Chinese scooters riding next to me in the other lane than one more car. |
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jaqt wrote: Anyone know when Fiat owned Piaggio. I was unfortunate enough to own a Fiat way back when. One cold Minnesota winter evening, temperature about -20, I went out to start the car and put my foot down to engage the clutch and it snapped off. The clutch not my foot. The was just the half of it, parts were hard to get and I needed many. Owned it for only about six or seven months. |
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Maybe someone important will see this post and hopefully realize that we are technically speaking for thousands of people. These bikes should be manufactured. They're so cute and cuddly that all the kids are gonna want them. Put this Lambretta ad in some magazines and newspapers and watch the demand rise...
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illnoise wrote: Note that it's not Lambretta International (the Khuranas in Seattle, which is probably what punkelf saw, that's lambrettausa.com) but someone else (in Holland maybe) claiming to be Innocenti. That makes four companies (these guys, khurana, CMSI, and PM Tuning) all claiming to have new Lambrettas in the works. (though CMSI and PM are theoretically working together, and the Khuranas used to be involved in that team, too. On top of that, there's SiL, (Scooters India Limited, the last maker of the Lambretta in the 90s) who may or may not be working with the Khuranas. In my experience, the weirder and less believeable something is, the more likely someone will email me the next day with proof that it's true. I would have never bet in a thousand years that the Gilera Fuoco would come to the US, for instance. But I really doubt this will go anywhere, it could even be a student project or just someone who happened to catch the domain name when someone else let it lapse, trying to rile people up. Everything else you've said here, sounds about right... sadly... Well, except the Fuoco thing. Nothing sad about that! |
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never thought the day would come that I would say "I want that Lambretta".
That day is today. |
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They are repenting their sins for trying to push those made in China scooters with the Lambretta name - shame on them!
It's going to take more than just the picture of the good looking chick to make me buy one now. |
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Re: I was in a shop today...
Lucky Bastard wrote: I was in a shop today that had sold 3 Adly Lambrettas in one day.. So they are selling even if people on the BBS and here on Modern Vespa dont want them. http://www.lambrettausa.com/default.aspx That boggles my mind. |
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Re: Seen www.lambretta.com today?
manoman wrote: [url]www.lambretta.com[/url] The Cigno? The Swan? Well the confusion only begins here and does not end even after you've read this little article: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motoblog.it%2Fpost%2F10463%2Fpato-la-lambretta-cinese&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=it&tl=en. Please don't insult the legend. (That concludes my very first MV comment.) |
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jess wrote: Welcome to MV. But, errr... this thread is a bit out of date now, some 9 months on... SWEET. |
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Out of date and all....
I've been tweaking my Vega (this pic is 5 years old) but Innocenti could make an ugly duckling.... So ugly I think it's kinda cool... |
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Mate, The Vega is stunning compared to my cento This pic is old also this is how i found it and WHY did i bring it home
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jimh wrote: Mate, The Vega is stunning compared to my cento This pic is old also this is how i found it and WHY did i bring it home That thing is in good nick! All furriness and everything. Here's what mine looked like on scoot.net classifieds. see the S3? air bellows as a filter..Cometa tank, Lui seat. The rims were rusted through and the rear shock was siezed and bent, all the rubber whatever was shot. I picked it up on a Friday night, the second pic is what it looked like by Sunday. I traced the serial number, it was the 10th last off the line in October 1968. The green was the original color of the frame (under red and metallic blue) so I had it matched, the legshield was off white originally, so it was a true bitsa but I stuck with the Venus green of the frame...... I've since got the correct seat and cover. WCLW rebuilt the engine for me and as parts are remade I'm trying to get it sorted... Put a nice order in with Scootopia this morning Good luck with the Cento, the LCGB board is quite active on them. -marc |
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Re: I was in a shop today...
Lucky Bastard wrote: I was in a shop today that had sold 3 Adly Lambrettas in one day.. So they are selling even if people on the BBS and here on Modern Vespa dont want them. |
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Re: I was in a shop today...
senor_stoveman wrote: Lucky Bastard wrote: I was in a shop today that had sold 3 Adly Lambrettas in one day.. So they are selling even if people on the BBS and here on Modern Vespa dont want them. yag. we need the L series, stat. |
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Re: I was in a shop today...
senor_stoveman wrote: Where are the Lambretta dealers. that is great a classic tng having a lammy look. I want one. 1) confused about which lambretta you're talking about. The CMSI "L-series" is the best attempt, and it never made it past prototype. The Cigno is vaporware. 2) crazy for considering the Adly turd to be even remotely worthy of carrying the lambretta name on a cheaply made sticker. ( you realize you pay about 800 bucks more for that sticker compared to the non lambretta-badged Adly? ) 3) a corporate shill for Adly |
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Dang! Why are you hiding that great, Jetson-style scooter inside this silly thread?!
I'm going to repeat the picture at least: marc wrote: So ugly I think it's kinda cool... |
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