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So I have a Bell Carbon Custom 500 RSD helmet; I think the bubble shield look is great, but I learned the hard way that the design is not friendly to people who wear prescription glasses.

I was thinking of about resigning the 3/4 helmet for both club auto-racing use and if I ever have a passenger. Now I'm on the hunt for a full face, especially with colder weather on the way. I hate the wind noise of the Bullit, and I think the Gringo is just okay in terms of visibility and has no ventilation.

I've searched the forum and a lot of the helmets I found were no longer being produced (like the Arai Condor user Dessita posted about).

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Re: Recommend a Retro Full Face, Hard MODE: No Bullit or Gri
Alejandro_Waspa wrote:
So I have a Bell Carbon Custom 500 RSD helmet; I think the bubble shield look is great, but I learned the hard way that the design is not friendly to people who wear prescription glasses.

I was thinking of about resigning the 3/4 helmet for both club auto-racing use and if I ever have a passenger. Now I'm on the hunt for a full face, especially with colder weather on the way. I hate the wind noise of the Bullit, and I think the Gringo is just okay in terms of visibility and has no ventilation.

I've searched the forum and a lot of the helmets I found were no longer being produced (like the Arai Condor user Dessita posted about).

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If you wear glasses (like me) you must not miss a modular helmet.
Easy to open without first removing it, you can continue to wear it if you have to stop or slow down for a short time.
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Shoei Neotec II helmet is the most quiet of the modular helmets. Schubarth C4 Pro is pretty good as well. The major advantage to the Schubarth is the view port is huge. Both weigh about the same

Interestingly, the Schubarth carbon weighs about the same as the non carbon so I view carbon helmets as a fashion statement, at least wrt to Schubrath.

And to add confusion to clarity, see here: https://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmet-reviews/

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Perfect Miguel, my modular is indeed a Schubert but in ABS (less expensive, I'm stingy ... mea culpa).
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Attila wrote:
Perfect Miguel, my modular is indeed a Schubert but in ABS (less expensive, I'm stingy ... mea culpa).
Me too. I think the carbon is unnecessary. Miguel
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I have a Bell 500 with a bubble shield also. I have a pair of glasses with smaller lenses and a narrower frame I wear with it.

My normal frames fit just fine under my HJC CL-Max modular.
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25BIKEZ wrote:
I have a Bell 500 with a bubble shield also. I have a pair of glasses with smaller lenses and a narrower frame I wear with it.

My normal frames fit just fine under my HJC CL-Max modular.
Do you put the bubble shield on after your glasses?
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AGV Legends is a well known, if a bit pricy retro... I have no personal experience though.
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Modular Flip Open - My Choice
The full face helmet must be a safer alternative. They just are
to claustrophobic for me. I love the modular flip up. Mine has
enough room for glasses.

I wear a lite cotton helmet liner (durag). I put my prescription sun
glasses on, put on the durag that covers the ears - allowing the
helmet to easily slip on without disturbing the glasses.

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Re: Modular Flip Open - My Choice
Bob Copeland wrote:
The full face helmet must be a safer alternative. They just are
to claustrophobic for me. I love the modular flip up. Mine has
enough room for glasses.

I wear a lite cotton helmet liner (durag). I put my prescription sun
glasses on, put on the durag that covers the ears - allowing the
helmet to easily slip on without disturbing the glasses.

Bob Copeland
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Bob! It must be that cold in your state. I have seen that helmet before. I definitely need to get one like that myself soon.
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Alejandro_Waspa wrote:
25BIKEZ wrote:
I have a Bell 500 with a bubble shield also. I have a pair of glasses with smaller lenses and a narrower frame I wear with it.

My normal frames fit just fine under my HJC CL-Max modular.
Do you put the bubble shield on after your glasses?
I put my helmet on first, then my glasses. My Bell 500 shield is not the classic 3 snap bubble, though-it flips up.
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Well, if you eliminate the Bullit and the Gringo from the mix, that's probably about 95% of retro full face sales in the USA.

There are a few others...

The Torco T1 at around $200. The Ruby, probably $1000+. The AGV, mentioned above.

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Check out the Nolan N70-2 GT helmet. It is not retro, but I have found it to be the most comfortable helmet I've owned. It uses a removable chin-bar, allowing the helmet to be a 3/4 or have the protection of a full face, but with a much larger than typical view.

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Plenty of room for glasses.
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I wonder
Have there been tests of the protection of the flip-up modulars in relation to actual full-face helmets? Hard to believe that the hinge mechanism/chin bar is strong enough to resist failing under the impact of a crash. I've been tempted to get one of the modulars, but have my doubts as to the protection. Since the left-turn-SMIDSY accident scenario is pretty common locally, and is nearly a head-on crash, definitely concerned about facial protection.

So I wear a full-face. Not that burdensome to take off the glasses, put on the helmet, put on the glasses. Flipping up the shield at stops seems to be enough as well.
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If I was in the market for a modular helmet, the first one I'd look at would be AGV. Its chin bar survives 97% of crashes:

https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/helmets/agv-sport-modular/

Shoei only survives 70%:

https://sharp.dft.gov.uk/helmets/shoei-neotec-ii/

That's 10x as many failures, and the temple does a worse job absorbing shock.
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Captain Jim wrote:
Check out the Nolan N70-2 GT helmet. It is not retro, but I have found it to be the most comfortable helmet I've owned. It uses a removable chin-bar, allowing the helmet to be a 3/4 or have the protection of a full face, but with a much larger than typical view.

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Mine is in white...

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Plenty of room for glasses.
How noisy is it with the chin bar installed? My biggest complaint about my HJC CL-Max modular is that it's noisy at highway speeds.
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25BIKEZ wrote:
Captain Jim wrote:
Check out the Nolan N70-2 GT helmet. It is not retro, but I have found it to be the most comfortable helmet I've owned. It uses a removable chin-bar, allowing the helmet to be a 3/4 or have the protection of a full face, but with a much larger than typical view.

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Mine is in white...

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Plenty of room for glasses.
How noisy is it with the chin bar installed? My biggest complaint about my HJC CL-Max modular is that it's noisy at highway speeds.
It is quieter than the HJC 3/4 or the Bilt modular helmets I have. With the chin bar installed (takes about 2 seconds) it is much quieter than without. The loudest thing I hear while on my GTS is the wind when the vent on the front shield is open - close that vent and the noise level really drops. So, a trade-off of getting cool air or quiet. If it is cool enough out, I keep that vent closed. The other 3 vents on top add some wind noise when open, but not as much as that vent on the face shield. It is warm where we live, so that vent is really appreciated.

I have a Laminar Lip on the Faco mid-height windshield on my GTS, and that made a very significant difference in the noise level.
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Captain Jim wrote:
25BIKEZ wrote:
Captain Jim wrote:
Check out the Nolan N70-2 GT helmet. It is not retro, but I have found it to be the most comfortable helmet I've owned. It uses a removable chin-bar, allowing the helmet to be a 3/4 or have the protection of a full face, but with a much larger than typical view.

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Mine is in white...

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Plenty of room for glasses.
How noisy is it with the chin bar installed? My biggest complaint about my HJC CL-Max modular is that it's noisy at highway speeds.
It is quieter than the HJC 3/4 or the Bilt modular helmets I have. With the chin bar installed (takes about 2 seconds) it is much quieter than without. The loudest thing I hear while on my GTS is the wind when the vent on the front shield is open - close that vent and the noise level really drops. So, a trade-off of getting cool air or quiet. If it is cool enough out, I keep that vent closed. The other 3 vents on top add some wind noise when open, but not as much as that vent on the face shield. It is warm where we live, so that vent is really appreciated.

I have a Laminar Lip on the Faco mid-height windshield on my GTS, and that made a very significant difference in the noise level.
Thanks. I'll have to give that model a try to see if it fits my melon head.
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You can buy a combination visor/flip shield for the Custom 500. I don't wear my 3/4 much anymore, but this shield is rad.
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