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The rust all got killed I believe and I just cleaned it up smooth with a Scotch-Brite pad then painted over it. So far, so good.
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swiss1939 wrote:
V oodoo wrote:
final cleanup with Ospho after, clearcoat on the floor bottom, and gloss white in the motor hole, orbital cut & polish on the rest and find a little decent matching touch up white to use as sparingly as I can.
When you apply ospho did it leave a whitish film over parts of the metal/paint? If so, did you just hit it with 0000 steel wool to remove before painting, or deal with it another way?

When I coated my p200 frame with ospho, ive got some white film areas from the ospho over my paint and metal.. probably where it was applied too heavily. Haven't had time to deal with that frame further yet, but have been wondering best way to deal with it prior to clear coat as I don't want it to keep that whitish film look once clear coated.
I had that too, went to the Ospho site and according to them that white film means it worked. They say to clean it up with mineral spirits before painting. That however did not get rid of it for me.
I'd be very hesitant to use mineral oil for clean up before painting, unless an oil based paint will be applied.
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Just relaying what the manufacturer says is all.

And luckily for me I'm not repainting!
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Looks like the distinguished gentleman's ride. Scooter emoticon

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It's been a while and I kind of got used to riding two tone, it always fires right up, goes fast and runs like a top! But that unplanned two tone was looking pretty ragged and so was nagging me to finish up getting the rest of the yellow off to see what's underneath. I still need to cut & polish, but now many hours later most all of that ugly house paint is finally gone.

Mixed results and I can see why somebody wanted to cover it up. However I will continue as planned, rub out the original paint and do some touchup where I must, matching the white best I can. Made easier in that I will not be shooting for perfection, just reasonable preservation and a good look from ten feet away!
This side doesn't look too bad
This side doesn't look too bad
Just don't get too close.
Just don't get too close.
The other side however...
The other side however...
Ouch!
Ouch!
The front too. I think at least now I know why they wanted to paint it anyway.
The front too. I think at least now I know why they wanted to paint it anyway.
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Wow hats off to you. I think it looks bad ass. After you cut and polish… Id just slather on some owatrol to the bare metal spots and let that worn ass patina settle in. Well done sir!!!!
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Very nice! I'm with Birdsnest. Wipe the rust with Ospho, then wax and oil and ride baby, ride! It looks badass. Clap emoticon Clap emoticon Clap emoticon
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Agreed. I'm not normally Team Patina, but if you're going to do it, that'll be doing it right.
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I like this approach, too. Your hard work really paid off.
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I looks badass but doesn't make me as hungry as before…
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It looks great!

Could always do two tone with shiny new biancospino on the cowls and fender and patina on the rest.
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Sorry, but a little too much bare metal for me to leave it as is. I'm trying some white primer for now to camouflage it while I rub out the good paint that it has and try to find best match.
Tried it along bottom edge. 
The white primer looks slightly grayer to me
Tried it along bottom edge. The white primer looks slightly grayer to me
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Send a piece to me and I'll have the local guy Ron mix you up a quart of single stage goodness
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Wet sanding a few places now. The white is coming back fast with a little water and 1200 grit. I'll prime the bare spots then try rubbing compound next to see how it blends.
You can see the yellow tinge still where I haven't been yet
You can see the yellow tinge still where I haven't been yet
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These people sell the paint code in a spray can, but it's two stage.

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/PRIME-Piaggio-Bianco-Blanco-Varnish/dp/B07RCZ1HJP
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Scott, thanks, appreciate the offer and may just take you up on it!

Hjo, I tried to order, but they won't ship to USA! Crying or Very sad emoticon

Meanwhile, I'm plodding along using the primer to camouflage the worst of the owies. I just can't be looking at big patches of bare metal when so much of the paint looks nice. We'll see how it goes... I could repaint both cowls, the mudguard and horncast I suppose.
Blended in and still pretty ratty, but no huge rusty spots. It'll do for now.
Blended in and still pretty ratty, but no huge rusty spots. It'll do for now.
Filling in chips in floorboards. They've been Ospho'd and just now wiped w/ lacquer thinner.
Filling in chips in floorboards. They've been Ospho'd and just now wiped w/ lacquer thinner.
Just daubing in thickened primer w/ a small artist's brush
Just daubing in thickened primer w/ a small artist's brush
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I could repaint both cowls, the mudguard and horncast I suppose.
Do it.
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Scott, thanks, appreciate the offer and may just take you up on it!

Hjo, I tried to order, but they won't ship to USA! Crying or Very sad emoticon
That makes sense. It's shipping chemicals.

It's kind of a pain to get the color. I just recently found the same color.

This place says they will do it from a paint code, but they don't let you choose from a list, and it's kind of obscure.
https://www.66autocolor.com/products/spray-max-2k-single-stage-aerosol-spray-paint

The color code is here on the Glasurit site: PIAGGIO BIANCO SPINO 715
https://coloronline.glasurit.com/index.php?language=8

The place I got the paint was here:
https://fastlanerelics.squarespace.com/coming-soon

They might be able to mix in a can and ship to you.
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I'm headed out to a friend's auto body shop, he mixes paint and can maybe fix me up. I've done all I can with white primer for now. Here's where we are currently:
I think it looks better at ten feet, just a work in process.
I think it looks better at ten feet, just a work in process.
The floor looks 100% better now you can't see all those dark paint chips. The cowl door goes with me for matching paint.
The floor looks 100% better now you can't see all those dark paint chips. The cowl door goes with me for matching paint.
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Thanks for the tips Mike, now I wanna try that SprayMax clear coat!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=xNRKHGNiveo&feature=emb_title

I found some Honda 'Taffeta White' that is close but no perfect match. But it will have to do for now and I've gotten in line w/ my auto body shop buddy to mix me some custom paint he says will match the original when he gets caught up.
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Looks good man. Heck of a reclamation.
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It's probably closer to the original color than you think! the yellow remnants look almost like faded paint
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The color really changed a lot depending on conditions.

These two bikes were both the same paint code, but one was much more yellow.
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