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You can find a non p side stand or a Mrp main stand offset on SIP and order from Mercato to avoid crazy shipping cost.

http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Vintage-Vespa-Parts/SIP-Part
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FNG wrote:
My SIP Road 2 fits nicely but I haven't gone 2up with it yet.
I also had my new rear shock at its highest setting as well. It's fine with just myself but I bet it's close when I go into the corners.
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rowdyc wrote:
You can find a non p side stand or a Mrp main stand offset on SIP and order from Mercato to avoid crazy shipping cost.

http://www.scootermercato.com/Scooter-Parts/Vintage-Vespa-Parts/SIP-Part
Thanks rowdyc.
I found the side stand in stock at Marcato. So that will get me going next week sometime.
Also I ordered the MRP main stand offset from ScooterSpeed. I think this is the option I will end up using but I'll decide after looking at both.
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I got home from work today and the side stand had arrived from Mercato.
After wrestling with it for a while I finally finished the install and it was time for a ride.

First ride with the sprint veloce cases, VMC 177 Stelvio, Pinasco 24 ER carb Pinasco ignition and Polini box exhaust.
I took it easy to break it in but boy does it feel fast. This thing is going to go.

I did suffer one setback. It blew the pilot light, headlight and tail light. I must have some wires connected to the regulator incorrectly.
It got dark so I had to stop playing with it. Time to order more 12v bulbs. Not sure why I didn't order more than 1 set in the first place.
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My shift housing on my VNB is touching on the exhaust and melting slightly.
Is my housing too long or did I route it incorrectly?
Thank for your help.
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pull the locating bracket up and out a little and that should give you the clearance you need.
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This thing?

Thank you Mr G
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That did the trick.
Thanks again.
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No, that ain't right. The cables go behind the pipe. It should be more or less a straight shot from the frame. No big wavy bends in the cables.
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No, that ain't right. The cables go behind the pipe. It should be more or less a straight shot from the frame. No big wavy bends in the cables.
oh duh! he said it was a small block! gah, I'll wake up here in a bit.

yeah, socal is right- behind the pipe on the small block.
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TIL I have the shift cables run wrong on every bike I own. Razz emoticon
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No, that ain't right. The cables go behind the pipe. It should be more or less a straight shot from the frame. No big wavy bends in the cables.
Thanks SoCal.
It looks much better now.
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On yesterday's SLO county ride someone told me that my fork is bent.
I thought it just looks wrong because of the repop mudguard.
What do you guys think?
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Is the mud guard rubbing against the leg shield?
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Is the mud guard rubbing against the leg shield?
No. There is about 8mm of clearance.
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If it's bent, it's not bent much, or not bent in line front-to-back.

It's actually easier to tell in a picture like that if you can see the headset, too.

And for side-to-side bent (like when it gets bent with the wheel over while parked), take a picture from the front and you can see it that way.
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chandlerman wrote:
If it's bent, it's not bent much, or not bent in line front-to-back.

It's actually easier to tell in a picture like that if you can see the headset, too.

And for side-to-side bent (like when it gets bent with the wheel over while parked), take a picture from the front and you can see it that way.
Thank you.
I'll get some better pictures on Wednesday.
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Post ROM I decided to address my air leak.

I pulled the engine and hooked it up to my cobbled together pressure tester.

It held 20 psi.
I left it like that and went and worked on another project and now it won't hold any pressure at all.



April fools. Ha ha.
I just forgot to take the schrader valve out of the end of the compression tester hose that I was using.
holding 20 psi.
holding 20 psi.
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I did actuality solve my air leak. Here is how it went down.

The last few attempts at pressure testing I used blanking plate and a piece of an inner tube to replace the air box.
This has worked very well and I was able to find and fix an air leak.
Unfortunately once the engine was installed I couldn't get it to run right. It was always lean.

This time instead of using the blanking plate I used the air box and carb with a piece of rubber under the air box.

I noticed that the air box didn't fit flush on the case.
It turns out that there is a raised edge on the case that fouls on the air box.

I used a gasket as an outline and marked off what to file away on the air box.
After a little filing and a few test fits it now fits flush.
Better still the engine now holds pressure for at least an hour.

Now to start the jetting process all over again.
raised edge
raised edge
removed a little and now it fits
removed a little and now it fits
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Good to hear you tracked down your problem

Air boxes warp and have various other issues seating and sealing than most people hung them blame for.

When pressure testing a motor with an si carb, I seal the intake with an old carb body to have as much assembled as possible when I test for this exact reason.
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I've been slowly working on the VNB.
I solved my air leak, gotten the temperature under control (it was the timing), switched out the clutch cog from a 24 to a 25 and added a SIP Road 3 exhaust.
She runs better than ever.
Still runs like crap the first 1/4 throttle but boy does she go.
Today I hit 68mph. I bet I can get to 70 with a better stretch of road and better conditions.
68mph on Hwy 1
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FNG wrote:
Post ROM I decided to address my air leak.

I pulled the engine and hooked it up to my cobbled together pressure tester.

It held 20 psi.
I left it like that and went and worked on another project and now it won't hold any pressure at all.



April fools. Ha ha.
I just forgot to take the schrader valve out of the end of the compression tester hose that I was using.
Doesn't need that much pressure for the pressure test, 5 or 6 psi is plenty!

What's your jetting for the motor? I have the same build in my Allstate built by the same man, top speed so far was 72.4mph via GPS. Still was only at half throttle when I hit that too. I'm not intending on trying to top that though. I'm not under 26 years old no more…
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Doesn't need that much pressure for the pressure test, 5 or 6 psi is plenty!

What's your jetting for the motor? I have the same build in my Allstate built by the same man, top speed so far was 72.4mph via GPS. Still was only at half throttle when I hit that too. I'm not intending on trying to top that though. I'm not under 26 years old no more…
72.4mph! You must have nerves of steel.

It wasn't really at 20psi. I didn't take the Schrader valve out of the compression tester hose that I repurposed. It was an April Fools joke.

My jetting is rich still. I had been combating an air leak and haven't finished dialing it in yet.
Right now it is
AC 120
BE4
MJ135 (maybe 138)
45/120

Honestly 68mph is terrifying on the 8" wheels.
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I had my phone in my pocket with the GPS going so I didn't know till I got home. It was not very fun honestly. 60 is plenty fast enough for me.

But it's nice to know I can escape so sketchy situations pretty quickly if needs be!
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FridayMatinee wrote:
I had my phone in my pocket with the GPS going so I didn't know till I got home. It was not very fun honestly. 60 is plenty fast enough for me.
I was phone in pocket too. If I had known that I was so close to 70 I may have pressed on a little bit more.

I don't have a good way to mount my phone where I can see it. So for now it just lives in my pocket.

What jetting are you running?
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