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The spot where I can store my 2020 GTS has no electrical outlet nearby. When I owned my Harley, I simply removed the battery and stored it in my basement on a tender. Will that work ok with my GTS as well? I don't know if removing the battery causes any electronic/computer issues. Thanks.
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No issues removing the battery.
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You can just make sure it is fully charged and disconnect the neg battery cable. No reason to take it out.
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... or do as I recommend in this post ...
Which Battery Tender
Mount a connector halfway between the battery and the circuit, when you want it off and with the same one you connect to a tender ... or you simply leave it detached.
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Batteries in the Cold North
I am fortunately able to store both my Scooters in my attached garage
which stays somewhat warmer than outside. Despite this, I have froze
batteries in this garage because we get -20 degree temperatures.

I am to lazy to put the batteries on trickle charge tenders. I simply pull
them out of the scoot and leave them in the warm basement.

One extremely mild Winter, I simply went out and fired each scooter up
weekly and let them come to normal running temperature.

I am not a technician. Fully charged batteries should survive extreme cold.
Problem, the batteries can be somewhat depleted then can freeze. Once
froze, they will not sustain a charge even after being fully charged in the Spring

That is the News from Lake Wobegon,
Where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and
all the children are above average
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Re: Batteries in the Cold North
Bob Copeland wrote:
That is the News from Lake Wobegon,
Where all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and
all the children are above average
...you are priceless...
Even my garage is not heated but it does not freeze because it is built in poroton: http://www.poroton.it/mattoni-laterizi/laterizio-porizzato.aspx
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Interesting building material. Here unless the space is heated it doesn't matter what the building is made of, it still gets cold. Not unusual for winters to be -10c to -20c for weeks at a time.

I usually pull the batteries and connect them to tenders.
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It seems
According to some sources, a fully-charged lead-acid battery will not freeze until it hits -70 F.

I tend to disconnect my batteries, usually leave them in the vehicles in the cold. Give them a full charge in the fall, check them once a month or so. Then a full charge before the first engine start of the season.

Supposedly, so long as it doesn't freeze, the battery deteriorates less in cold temps than warm, and the self-discharge rate is lower as well. So I'm not sure keeping the battery warm is a good idea.
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pmatulew wrote:
Interesting building material. Here unless the space is heated it doesn't matter what the building is made of, it still gets cold. Not unusual for winters to be -10c to -20c for weeks at a time.

I usually pull the batteries and connect them to tenders.
I also usually pull the batteries and connect them to tenders, however I stop the scooter 6 months a year to save on insurance.
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I fill the tank with no ethanol fuel, run some Sta-Bil through it and hook it up to a tender.
What should I put between the tires and cement garage floor? Wood, carpet, corrugated?
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RP Tech wrote:
I fill the tank with no ethanol fuel, run some Sta-Bil through it and hook it up to a tender.
What should I put between the tires and cement garage floor? Wood, carpet, corrugated?
Any of the above are fine.
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Winter and Batteries
Jimding,

Good info on batteries fully charged are okay down to -70f. In my situation,
my Suzuki Burgman Scooter has a electronic display cluster (clock, Speed,)
that continues to draw power even when the scoot is turned off. When I did
not disconnect the battery, this cluster drew down the charge to a point
were the battery actually froze. My 2013 GTS300 does not do this.

I just pull all the batteries.

Attila,

Viva Italia! I think you have weather like Florida or Southern California.
Could you not leave your scooter battery outside on the sun dial clock in
your all ceramic decorated court yard? You live in paradise buon amico.

Different Topic:

Someone mentioned putting wood under the tires. I store the two scooters
up on their back pull up stands. Still, the tires touch the cold cement floor.
Is there anything to this.

Bob Copeland
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I take the batteries out of all four of my scooters and put them on a four position battery tender in my basement.
In the spring, all four fire up instantly.
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Re: Winter and Batteries
Bob Copeland wrote:
Someone mentioned putting wood under the tires. I store the two scooters
up on their back pull up stands. Still, the tires touch the cold cement floor.
Is there anything to this.

Bob Copeland
Good question, Bob. I have my doubts...initially I'd made a block of wood to fit under my front tire, but seems the past 5 years I've forgotten...and haven't seen any detrimental effect. Other two scooters are stored in a barn, so wood is already there..... Nerd emoticon
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Unless in extreme cold conditions, letting a tyre touch the cold concrete is not an issue, but the weight of the bike pressing in just one place for prolonged periods is. So it's recommended by all the "eggspurts" to rotate any weight bearing wheels on your motorcycle. Usually this is the front wheel if the bike is on the centre stand. If on the side stand then wheel the bike so the tyres rotate 180 degrees. If in extreme cold areas then use some carpet or 'warm' to the touch material to insulate the tyre from the concrete.

The reason for all this is to prevent "flat" or uneven spots on the tyres which can occur over long periods of storage especially in the cold.
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I must admit that Bob made me think ... two very cold winters have caused me problems with the batteries of agricultural vehicles, cars, lawnmowers and scooters even though they are all in their respective garages; this also with the connected charge maintainers.
There are factors which are not taken into consideration, the quality and age of the batteries; speaking of those with lead and with liquid acid (traditional type) the problem is more evident, a little less those with gel.
For now I have no experience with the lithium type.
Another factor is the accessibility to the battery compartment and its ease or difficulty in being removed; in the X Max 250 it was complicated and I limited myself to disconnecting the poles and connecting the maintainer.
The Tricity requires the disassembly of a large coverage between the platform and the saddle but it is easy, however I think that the less the plastic moves from the supports and the longer they last and this is why I used the male / female connectors to be able to quickly use the scooter if required or connect the charge maintainer and simply by accessing from under the saddle (later I will post the photos).
Access to the connector from under the seat (which opens only with the key) makes it possible to use it as an additional anti theft simply by disconnecting it.
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