Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:54 am

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Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:54 am linkquote
A few years ago I started this project and after two goes with the powder coating I think I have eventually got it right. So from this,





Aprroximiatly 100hrs of grinding with a wire brush attachment, to this.







The black stuff is where I applied 'Krust'



The first colour scheme was to powder coat the frame matt white and everything else gloss black, even the engine casings. After staring at the frame in bare metal I decided I wanted the body work to look like that. So took the body work to the sand blasters and had it blasted then clear powder coat.









By now it was March 2013









After around 6/7 months of running around on this scooter I decided that I hated the finish and colour of this scooter. The engine wasn't up to much either stock PX125 with DR180, dellorto PHBH 26mm Carburettor and Giannelli Exhaust.
So the process began again, this time with a much better engine and more hours with the grinder and several test pieces done at the powder shop to get the desired finish. This basically took me through to the winter of 2013/14.









The plan this time was clear powder coat with Ford brilliant Orange engine, wheel rims and spare fuel tank.

Engine specs.
Worb5 gas flowed crank
Polini 180 barrel, casings ported to match
SIP banded Cosa 2 clutch 22 tooth
Primary 67 tooth
T5, 4th gear
Giannelli Exhasut
YSS Rear Shock
MRP manifold with RD350 reeds
Dellorto 26mm PHBH carburettor, 110 main jet, 50 idle jet and 70 float jet



By now I had got sick off the orange engine and spare fuel tank, so they were ditched and all went back to bare metal.
So now we come to the final finish that I was looking for from the beginning, bare metal with a clear powder coat. More hours with the grinder to really get a bright finish on the metal, we are now into early 2014.


Vespa GS


Vespa GS


Vespa GS


Vespa GS




Vespa GS


Vespa GS

From this picture you can see the difference, on the left bare metal mudguard, on the right clear powder coat mudguard.




Vespa GS


Vespa GS


Vespa GS

The front disc for this build is actually for a Rally/Sprint, I managed to fit it to the GS150 forks but unfortunately it threw the wheel alignment out by around 20mm, which was way to much. I am working on that at the moment, but for the project to get finished the original front end was fitted.
I wanted the welding, rust affected areas and all the braising that had been done to this scooter through the years to show through the powder coat, I was not looking for a perfect looking scooter.


Vespa GS


Vespa GS


Vespa GS





So the scooter was finished and I could not be more pleased with how it turned out, but then.





Day dreaming on a brilliant summer morning on my home from work, a car had stopped in front of me and with oncoming traffic had to take evasive action and head for the kerb, hitting the corner of the car and kerb at the same time. Luckily I escaped with minor cuts, bruising and what I thought at the time a completely knackered scooter, having just covered 1500 miles with careful running in of the new engine, I was raging. Pushed the scooter home as the accident happened about three quarters of a mile from my house. After around 20 minutes licking my wounds I tried starting the scooter and on first kick she fired up.
Three days later after the panel beater done his magic.





If you look closely you can see white marks where the powder coat has cracked on the leg shield and mudguard.
This has led me to the next stage of this scooter, where I am fitting a different exhaust and professional chromed rims & hubs. The scooter will stay like this for a few months until I decide what to do. Due to the crash and the cracked powder coat, there are now rust spots creeping in all over the scooter frame. I was told this would happen anyway, so I have to come up with a plan to stop this happening again as sooner or later I will need to strip the scooter and start again.
If you would like more detailed pictures of the scooter and finish then just ask. At no point during this build any original parts destroyed, cut or butchered. The frame has not been touched and on the first build the panels that were cut were remade. I still have the original engine and original panels for this scooter should I decide to go back to the way she was, a 1959 Vespa GS150 Douglas VS5.
Gary

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Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:17 pm

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Wed Dec 03, 2014 4:17 pm linkquote
love ur work mate, it awesome
Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:57 pm

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Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:57 pm linkquote
Ouch... glad you are ok and you got her back together right.

I was for a brief period considering copying your bare metal motif with my Augsburg GS3, but I've decided to go with boring red instead.

Hows the weather in Scotland? Im heading there in January. My son goes to college in Perth.

I also get to pick up some scooter goodies... I use my ex-wives UK address for ebay finds where they only ship to the EU.
Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:12 am

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Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:12 am linkquote
turbineguy wrote:
Ouch... glad you are ok and you got her back together right.

I was for a brief period considering copying your bare metal motif with my Augsburg GS3, but I've decided to go with boring red instead.

Hows the weather in Scotland? Im heading there in January. My son goes to college in Perth.

I also get to pick up some scooter goodies... I use my ex-wives UK address for ebay finds where they only ship to the EU.
Im ok, but the scooter will ned to be powder coated again, a lot sooner than I was hoping. It does give me a chance to do something a little different but still keeping the clear powder coat and adding some paint.

The powder coat is a lot cheaper than a paint job, so decided to do something a little different and after a while I will probably put the GS back to its original colour and fit the original engine. I think its a bit boring having all GS150's the same. What about 'white' the Augsburg factory painted a few of there GS/3's white. My first GS/3 was white, I should never have changed the colour as it looked excellent.

Weather, fcking pissing down as usual. Had a little snow, mostly hailstones. I would imagine Perth will have more snow than Glasgow, especially come January.

Cheers Gary
Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:13 am

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Mon Dec 15, 2014 4:13 am linkquote
koenig blues wrote:
love ur work mate, it awesome
Thanks much appreciated.

Gary
Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:01 am

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Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:01 am linkquote
[quote="GLscoot"]
turbineguy wrote:
The powder coat is a lot cheaper than a paint job, so decided to do something a little different and after a while I will probably put the GS back to its original colour and fit the original engine. I think its a bit boring having all GS150's the same. What about 'white' the Augsburg factory painted a few of there GS/3's white. My first GS/3 was white, I should never have changed the colour as it looked excellent.

I actually thought about white since I have two GS3s. One is getting professionally restored the original dark silver from Germany.

I debated doing the other one in white (the one Im doing in my garage), but... I already have a white GS160 and a white SS180. It just seemed like to much white. But, Im a few months away from paint, so I could just change my mind.

Man, if you had an original GS/3 in white and changed the color... ouch.

Keep up the updates. I like to see original stuff like this.
Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:09 pm

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Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:09 pm linkquote

Vespa GS150

Just searched through my photo library and found a few pictures of my first GS150. I am even more annoyed that I changed the colour on this one.

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Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:33 pm

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Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:33 pm linkquote
GLscoot wrote:
Vespa GS150 by GLscoot, on Flickr

Just searched through my photo library and found a few pictures of my first GS150. I am even more annoyed that I changed the colour on this one.
You aren't the only one to make mistakes. I like a dummy years ago decided to sandblast the one scooter that had original paint.

But man, I love Augsburg Vespas. The seats and tail light are so clean.



Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:26 am

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Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:26 am linkquote
Hey GL, just checked the thread... very nice work indeed! We're fans of the clear over metal look, and know how difficult it is to pull off. The long hours you put in are apparent.

Shame about the legshield, but s**t happens and the fix looks good.

Curious why you went with a clear powder as opposed a urethane or other finish over the metal and whether you'd go that route again.

Cheers.
Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:49 am

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Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:49 am linkquote
Curious why you went with a clear powder as opposed a urethane or other finish over the metal and whether you'd go that route again.


I have been trying to find a clear finish over bare metal for years now and no one recommended 'urethane'. In fact nobody had anything to say apart from, it can't be done. Even the powder coat geezer tried to put me off using clear powder coat. I am not going to give up.

I have been told, the problem is that there will always be moisture on the surface of the bare metal. When I go back to the powder shop, my question will be if it can sit in the oven for 10mins before the powder is applied and a little extra powder on the edges ect. as condensation can penetrate at these areas.
Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:12 pm

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Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:12 pm linkquote
GLscoot wrote:
I have been trying to find a clear finish over bare metal for years now and no one recommended 'urethane'. In fact nobody had anything to say apart from, it can't be done. Even the powder coat geezer tried to put me off using clear powder coat. I am not going to give up.

I have been told, the problem is that there will always be moisture on the surface of the bare metal. When I go back to the powder shop, my question will be if it can sit in the oven for 10mins before the powder is applied and a little extra powder on the edges ect. as condensation can penetrate at these areas.
Hat's off to you, man, stay at it. A good durable clear over bare metal isn't easy. Car guys have been trying it for decades, still haven't found anything that can hold back the rust very long.

What powder coating are you using? There's a difference... some are harder, some are more durable, some more weather resistant... the shop I use recommended Tiger Drylac Series 49 Clear. Not saying they're right, but they do good work.

Most powder coat shops will pre-heat the parts or run them thru the oven before applying the coating - it's called out-gassing. Heats the metal to release gas trapped in the substrate. They'll also apply second coats or vary the thickness around seams and edges if you ask.

Have you looked into ceramic coatings? There are ceramic clears out there... I've seen bicycles with ceramic clear over metal that looked great. Don't know how it would hold up on a scoot, but ceramic generally is lighter, and if done right, can be even more durable than powder. Good luck, fun project.
Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:57 am

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Wed Dec 17, 2014 2:57 am linkquote
I asked my shop which powder they used, he wouldn't tell me. Someone from Portugal got in touch with me about doing the same thing, so i asked him, he said that he does work from all over Europe, so would like to keep the process to himself. I thought fair enough it is his business.

I suppose the other way would be to, clear wrap the scooter. At the moment I'm using ACF50 to keep the rust to a minimum, this stuff seems to work. I do have a plan to try and keep it as clean as I can the next time it gets done but at the moment the rust along with the pitting, welds, braizing & dents add to the look. I think once I add the chrome work it should look even better.

Just out of interest what would one rim/wheel cost to get professionally chromed in the States cost. It cost me £72 p&p, about $100 p&p.
Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:39 pm

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Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:39 pm linkquote
Never had a wheel chromed, but that sounds about right. Not worth it IMO. You can buy brand new chrome rims for much less.
Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:21 am

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Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:21 am linkquote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Never had a wheel chromed, but that sounds about right. Not worth it IMO. You can buy brand new chrome rims for much less.
Chrome of the shelf is absolutely crap, professionally chromed parts should last just as long as powder coat or painted parts.

I know chrome is not everyones 'cup of tea' but I think against the bare metal, rusty, dented, welded, braised frame will look good, a bit of a contrast.

'Have you looked into ceramic coatings? There are ceramic clears out there... I've seen bicycles with ceramic clear over metal that looked great. Don't know how it would hold up on a scoot, but ceramic generally is lighter, and if done right, can be even more durable than powder. Good luck, fun project.'

Ceramic coating costs a fortune, currently looking into getting my exhaust done in ceramic coat, cost around $400 so a frame i would imagine would be upwards off $2000, but Im not ruling it out just yet may get a side panel done to see what it looks like.
Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:12 am

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Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:12 am linkquote
GLscoot wrote:
Chrome of the shelf is absolutely crap, professionally chromed parts should last just as long as powder coat or painted parts.
Agree. We've seen some 'professionally' chromed parts that flaked and peeled in a couple of years... depends how much you're willing to pay I suppose. I think a lot of shops here in SD have their stuff done in Mexico, with mixed results.
GLscoot wrote:
I know chrome is not everyones 'cup of tea' but I think against the bare metal, rusty, dented, welded, braised frame will look good, a bit of a contrast.
Chrome's cool, not sure how it'd work on a bare metal bike tho...
GLscoot wrote:
Ceramic coating costs a fortune, currently looking into getting my exhaust done in ceramic coat, cost around $400 so a frame i would imagine would be upwards off $2000, but Im not ruling it out just yet may get a side panel done to see what it looks like.
Yup, ceramic's not cheap. For that kind of money I'd just go with a good paint job. A lot can be done for $2 grand, and a lot fewer headaches.
Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:17 am

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Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:17 am linkquote
Love that scooter Gary. How has the powder coating on the case held up? It always looks good but I imagine it would chip fairly easily.
Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:14 am

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Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:14 am linkquote
Ginch wrote:
Love that scooter Gary. How has the powder coating on the case held up? It always looks good but I imagine it would chip fairly easily.
Ginch, i decided not to paint the casings. If I was going to do the casings I would use engine paint, this way I could repair any damage to the paint. Its not something I have given up on and so it may happen next year.
Cheers gary
Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:55 pm

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Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:55 pm linkquote
Thanks. Sounds like good advice.
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Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:13 am

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Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:13 am linkquote


After my crash last year I have decide to start from the beginning again. So I will go through the process of fitting a P2, PX, T5 or LML into a wide body Vespa.
The picture above shows the engine bracket sitting on the underside of the frame, you will also see a 'X' this is where the engine hits the underside of the frame, so you will need to grind a section of the engine, shown in the picture below marked in red. This allows you to get the ride height & angle of the engine. The bracket also needs two M8 bolts to help keep the bracket & engine secured to the frame, this is best done when you have the engine sitting in the correct position. To do this its best to fit the top end and the rear axle with hub and wheel. Don't fit the barrel studs, as you have to rotate the barrel into position.



Grind the area marked in red.



The actual engine with the section removed from the engine.



There are a few parts on the market for this conversion, both shown above. On the left the home made bracket & the original rear shock mount with shock connection to take the PX shock, you also need a spacer bolt, the distance of this is up to you. I have used 25mm & 35mm spacer bolts.
On the right the same parts bought from either Beedspeed, Scooter-Center or SIP.

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Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:29 am linkquote
Right on cue
Your timing is perfect Gary, I'm just starting to mock this up and I will be watching intently over your shoulder.


I was gonna just use a couple old sockets & a big ass clamp, but I like your way much better

Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:52 am

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Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:52 am linkquote
Engine in position.



Wheel alignment.
With the engine bracket, which everyone you choose, is best if you grind some of each end that fits into the wide frame. This will allow you to move the engine across and give you more room for the manifold & carb, it will also allow you to centre the wheels better, there is a very slight miss alignment of about 5mm. The GS160 rear wheel can make a big difference.



Standard Rotary engine.

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I made a manifold out of about 4 pieces and had it welded together, I think now there is one you can buy of the shelf. You will also notice it sits quite a bit away from the engine, my last rotary conversion I decided to cut a section of the flywheel casing so the carb sits a lot closer to the engine and not over the top of the barrel. As you can see the frame has not been cut.

LML Reed Valve



This manifold you can buy of the shelf.

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Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:56 am

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Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:56 am linkquote
Due to my welder letting me down, decided to fit the JL Curly Exhaust properly and see how it looks, had to bend the frame a little as the down pipe was rubbing against it.


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150

Going to leave the battery door of the side panel, so you can see the exhaust sticking out.
Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:51 pm

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Thu Mar 26, 2015 12:51 pm linkquote
Very nice
Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:21 am

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Sun Mar 29, 2015 9:21 am linkquote
Cheers, coldbeer.


GS Digital Speedo Cable


GS Digital Speedo Cable


GS Digital Speedo Cable

Rebuilt front end and digital speedo cable, there is a small magnet inserted at the back of the hub stud so should give me a very accurate speed reading.
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Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:53 am linkquote
It's looking good, that speedo pickup is nice! I suppose that would work off the rear wheel as well? So many fine details to savor
Quote:
Going to leave the battery door of the side panel, so you can see the exhaust sticking out.
Maybe a some kind of dull stainless mesh like this?



Mine is coming along, got the motor in. I need to start a thread
Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:46 am

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Wed Apr 22, 2015 8:46 am linkquote
Eventually got the body work done and a quick turnaround with the powder shop and now the fun starts, still got some paint to add to the underside.


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150
Fri May 01, 2015 7:20 am

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Fri May 01, 2015 7:20 am linkquote
Nearly finished, floor runners & some other bits'n'pieces.


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150
Tue May 05, 2015 3:15 pm

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Tue May 05, 2015 3:15 pm linkquote
Ah yeah, that is looking so good. The seat really tops it off so nicely. Denfeld replica? Where did you find it and(cringe) how much was it?

Love your sidestand too and that it's on the right side so your scoot won't blow over. Where did you find that?

Have fun w/ those floor runners, I just finished mine and what a pain!
Wed May 06, 2015 4:18 am

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Wed May 06, 2015 4:18 am linkquote
The seat is actually a remade VS5 seat. I do have a original Denfeld seat frame, I have added new springs to some areas. Will think of recovering it at some point. Im actually looking at a Aquila Ancilloti seat, but that is going to take some amount of work to fit.

The side stand was made out of a standard stand, actually one of the easier modifications.

Yeah, the fcking floor runners. My frame & runners have all been drilled and fitted before to this scooter and it still took me 4 hours. I use gasket paste underneath the runners to stop crap getting in-between the frame & runner. I also use M4 counter sunk allen/socket head screws. For me this is the best method, no drilling out rivets.

Nearly finished, carb to set up properly, wiring to sort out, and digital speedo to calibrate.
Fri May 08, 2015 5:59 am

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Vespa GS150, Messerschmitt GS150
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Fri May 08, 2015 5:59 am linkquote
Finally finished and after a sheared woodruff key and a dodgy plug, Ive managed a jaunt around the village and I will be honest, its fcking lightening. I didn't think an exhaust would make that much difference, what i can say is, 1st gear won't get used much. Will do a few more careful miles before it gets a proper run.
Fri May 08, 2015 9:40 am

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Fri May 08, 2015 9:40 am linkquote
Scoot
That's superb Gary!

Can you tell us what mods you did to the side stand? I really want a R/H side stand for mt GT160 build
Fri May 08, 2015 11:37 am

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Fri May 08, 2015 11:37 am linkquote
Re: Scoot
sawyer280769 wrote:
That's superb Gary!

Can you tell us what mods you did to the side stand? I really want a R/H side stand for mt GT160 build


I used this stand as it was long enough for the wideframe.
Cut about 20mm from the stand leg, drilled holes in both parts and bolted them together, then welded them together to give it more strength, remember to turn it round so it angles the correct way, you will see what I mean when you cut the section off, cut the peg where the spring hooks on and drilled the remainder out of the angled plate, bolted a M6 long bolt, hooked on the spring and used a M6 nylon lock nut so the spring would not ping off. The stand pivot is threaded so it can be reversed. then offered it up to the frame & using a car jack held it in place and marked the holes and drilled. Sounds complicated but once you cut the stand its easy to work out.
I have also used stand strengthening brackets under and on top of the frame, but may remove the ones on the bottom as it sits a bit to high.
Fri May 08, 2015 12:33 pm

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Fri May 08, 2015 12:33 pm linkquote
Stand
If I send you one will you do it??? Seriously.... Good job mate
Fri May 08, 2015 1:37 pm

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Fri May 08, 2015 1:37 pm linkquote
Re: Stand
sawyer280769 wrote:
If I send you one will you do it??? Seriously.... Good job mate
Yes shouldn't be a problem, what time scale are we looking at.
Sat May 09, 2015 1:15 am

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Sat May 09, 2015 1:15 am linkquote
Stand
I could really do,with a right hand stand Gary I hope you didn't think I was being cheeky?

I've seen the stand yourve modified. Are they not stainless? That make a difference to the welding?
Sat May 09, 2015 1:43 am

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Sat May 09, 2015 1:43 am linkquote
Re: Stand
sawyer280769 wrote:
I could really do,with a right hand stand Gary I hope you didn't think I was being cheeky?

I've seen the stand yourve modified. Are they not stainless? That make a difference to the welding?
Its no problem, getting my welder back may be the issue, thats why I asked about the timescale. The stand is stainless, but the plate isn't so welding it is not a problem. You don't touch the polished stainless parts, with the welder.
Mon May 11, 2015 6:15 am

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Mon May 11, 2015 6:15 am linkquote

Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150


Vespa GS150

Vespa GS150
Wed May 20, 2015 7:07 am

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Wed May 20, 2015 7:07 am linkquote

Vespa GS GS150


Vespa GS GS150

On one side I have a auxiliary fuel tank & on the other a toolbox.
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:33 am

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Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:33 am linkquote








Finally got the seat I wanted, had to fit a flush mounted fuel cap and move the rear seat supports.
Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:20 am

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74 Super, 75 Super, PX project, LML off-roader and new to 2018, '66 Blue Badge Smallframe
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Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:20 am linkquote
Don't be shy, show us the flush mount fuel filler!

Looking good Gary.
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