Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:14 am linkquote
The good thing is that it won't cause fleas and mites ...
Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:31 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:31 pm linkquote
Fudmucker wrote:
As I understand, it strengthens the immune system by elminating any parasitic infections that may be present. When Covid sticks up its head, the immune system isn't distracted by other infections.
This sounds a lot like the “all cancers are caused by worms in your gut” nonsense.
Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:32 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:32 pm linkquote
Fudmucker, where is the large-sample, double-blind, controlled study that shows that it works and is safe?

Unlike a certain 30% or so portion of the current US population, I still believe in real science and don't live in a post-truth world.

I understand this "wonder drug" was popular in India. Doesn't seem to have worked too well there, has it?
Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:57 pm

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Thu Jun 03, 2021 4:57 pm linkquote
Silver Streak wrote:
Fudmucker, where is the large-sample, double-blind, controlled study that shows that it works and is safe?

Unlike a certain 30% or so portion of the current US population, I still believe in real science and don't live in a post-truth world.

I understand this "wonder drug" was popular in India. Doesn't seem to have worked too well there, has it?
So you're suggesting the fact that (OK, to be clear, I'm making all of this up) 92% of the people who took the drug survived, and maybe, what, 98% of the people who didn't take it survived, the drug is somehow suspect?
Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:17 pm

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Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:17 pm linkquote
I just had a look at the AZ Dept of Health website. I was a bit surprised to see that nearly 85% of people my ~age and older have been vaccinated. That surprised me, happily so.

COVID vaccines got me a barely sore arm. No comparison to the Tetanus/Pneumonia/Shingles shots I got last week. Just wearing off now.



Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:24 pm

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Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:24 pm linkquote
Syd wrote:
I just had a look at the AZ Dept of Health website. I was a bit surprised to see that nearly 85% of people my ~age and older have been vaccinated. That surprised me, happily so.

COVID vaccines got me a barely sore arm. No comparison to the Tetanus/Pneumonia/Shingles shots I got last week. Just wearing off now.
Vaccination rates for the rest of the population is much lower. Maybe it should have a different color?
Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:57 pm

Molto Verboso
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:57 pm linkquote
Silver Streak wrote:
Fudmucker, where is the large-sample, double-blind, controlled study that shows that it works and is safe?

Unlike a certain 30% or so portion of the current US population, I still believe in real science and don't live in a post-truth world.

I understand this "wonder drug" was popular in India. Doesn't seem to have worked too well there, has it?
So how about the same large-sample, double-blind, controlled study for the vaccines going into hundreds of millions of people's arms are similarly safe?
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:02 pm

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Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:02 pm linkquote
I received the Pfizer shots and only slight arm soreness after the 2nd shot. No comparison to the Shingles shots last fall. Those suckers hurt!
Syd wrote:
I just had a look at the AZ Dept of Health website. I was a bit surprised to see that nearly 85% of people my ~age and older have been vaccinated. That surprised me, happily so.

COVID vaccines got me a barely sore arm. No comparison to the Tetanus/Pneumonia/Shingles shots I got last week. Just wearing off now.
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:21 pm linkquote
86Hawkeye wrote:
I received the Pfizer shots and only slight arm soreness after the 2nd shot. No comparison to the Shingles shots last fall. Those suckers hurt!
I'm with you. I had the Pfizer shots a couple of months ago. I just had the first in the newer 2 shot series for shingles. The shingles vaccine was far worse.
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:30 pm

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Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:30 pm linkquote
Dooglas wrote:
I'm with you. I had the Pfizer shots a couple of months ago. I just had the first in the newer 2 shot series for shingles. The shingles vaccine was far worse.
I mean, the shingles shots weren't terrible, but they did hurt for 3 days or so.
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:31 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:31 pm linkquote
Not figured out how to activate the microchip that they injected with the vaccine, I still want to use it to measure the real speed when I go on a scooter.
Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:32 pm

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Sat Jun 05, 2021 1:32 pm linkquote
LOL!
Attila wrote:
Not figured out how to activate the microchip that they injected with the vaccine, I still want to use it to measure the real speed when I go on a scooter.
Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:54 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 4:54 pm linkquote
Fudmucker wrote:
So how about the same large-sample, double-blind, controlled study for the vaccines going into hundreds of millions of people's arms are similarly safe?
The studies exist, they have been peer-reviewed for scientific sufficiency, and they have been approved for emergency use by the appropriate governing bodies.

What's your beef?
Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:37 pm

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Sun Jun 06, 2021 5:37 pm linkquote
Fudmucker wrote:
So how about the same large-sample, double-blind, controlled study for the vaccines going into hundreds of millions of people's arms are similarly safe?
Are you suggesting they weren't?
Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:33 pm

Ossessionato
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:33 pm linkquote
Fudmucker wrote:
As I understand, it strengthens the immune system by elminating any parasitic infections that may be present. When Covid sticks up its head, the immune system isn't distracted by other infections.
The percentage of 1st world countries population affected by parasites is pretty low.. so even if this were a valid treatment.. it wouldn't provide much benefit to 1st world countries, which MV users are predominantly from 1st world countries... so it is of no benefit to most on here.
Silver Streak wrote:
I understand this "wonder drug" was popular in India. Doesn't seem to have worked too well there, has it?
Case in point. Unfortunately, I'm sure its more common for a greater percentage of the population of India to be affected by parasites.
Fudmucker wrote:
So how about the same large-sample, double-blind, controlled study for the vaccines going into hundreds of millions of people's arms are similarly safe?
It may seem rushed with little science behind it, but even under the circumstances of the past year, all of these vaccines did have to go through clinical trials and science/government approval. Those processes include "large-sample, double-blind, controlled studies" performed by science experts and medical professionals despite the claims of anti-science folk, expert rabble rousers and professional BS artists like Alex Jones.
Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:19 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:19 pm linkquote
https://europa.today.it/eu4future/la-vernice-che-depotenzia-il-covid-il-brevetto-di-un-azienda-di-latina-finanziato-dall-ue.html

Chemical industry of the city of Latina invents the anti Covid paint.
Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:24 pm

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Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:24 pm linkquote
My question to vaccine doubters and miracle elixir experimenters is: what certain alternative do we have to vaccine?
Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:52 pm

Molto Verboso
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 10:52 pm linkquote
Attila wrote:
My question to vaccine doubters and miracle elixir experimenters is: what certain alternative do we have to vaccine?
Anti covid paint.
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:16 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:16 pm linkquote
Attila wrote:
https://europa.today.it/eu4future/la-vernice-che-depotenzia-il-covid-il-brevetto-di-un-azienda-di-latina-finanziato-dall-ue.html

Chemical industry of the city of Latina invents the anti Covid paint.
What does it taste like?
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:37 pm

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Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:37 pm linkquote
Sledge wrote:
Anti covid paint.
Are you too quick to give the right answer, are you sure you have no Italian ancestors?
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:37 pm

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Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:37 pm linkquote
Attila wrote:
https://europa.today.it/eu4future/la-vernice-che-depotenzia-il-covid-il-brevetto-di-un-azienda-di-latina-finanziato-dall-ue.html

Chemical industry of the city of Latina invents the anti Covid paint.
I'd settle for an anti-rust paint
Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:40 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:40 pm linkquote
znomit wrote:
What does it taste like?
The paint that weakens Covid: the patent of a company in Latina financed by the EU
“It is a material coating paint that is photocatalytic, which means that it reduces or oxidizes some unwanted substances through a chemical process. It has a sanitizing and antibacterial action, therefore it breaks down formaldehyde, bacteria and smog. And viruses, including SARS-CoV-2 that we have come to fear this year. Photocatalytic paints of this type already existed but they are mineral and for this reason they can only be used outdoors. Human no, it is also good for internal walls, because it has an organic component that makes it washable.

How does the photocatalysis process work?
It is a natural sanitizing process: inside the paint there is titanium dioxide, which in the presence of light and water (therefore also humidity) is activated and produces free radicals that attack the organic elements harmful to the body and neutralize them. rendering them inert. The process is activated even if the light is not solar but from electric lighting. The wall is thus continuously cleaned. In reality, the range of action of Human painting is wider, because it spreads the particles we mentioned earlier in the air. "
Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:48 am

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Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:48 am linkquote
Attila wrote:
My question to vaccine doubters and miracle elixir experimenters is: what certain alternative do we have to vaccine?
Great question! My sister is so damn stubborn about getting a free vaccine. I am lost for words... she is around children all the time and is way over weight and not an Olympic athlete. She probably couldn't survive a cold yet won't get the vaccine. Why???

Bob
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:04 am

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Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:04 am linkquote
BVBob wrote:
My sister is so damn stubborn about getting a free vaccine. I am lost for words... she is around children all the time and is way over weight and not an Olympic athlete. She probably couldn't survive a cold yet won't get the vaccine. Why???
Does she have strange or irrational ideas on other subjects? It seems the anti-vax or strong vax hesitancy is part of a wider world view.
Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:31 am

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Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:31 am linkquote
BVBob wrote:
Great question! My sister is so damn stubborn about getting a free vaccine.

Bob
I thought the vaccine was free from you ...
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:51 am

Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:51 am linkquote
Dooglas wrote:
Does she have strange or irrational ideas on other subjects? It seems the anti-vax or strong vax hesitancy is part of a wider world view.
Nope. She just says she's uncomfortable getting the vaccine. I told her, " you'll be a hell of a lot uncomfortable if you get the virus". She needs me to pick her up from a car appointment tomorrow. I said okay but we're both wearing masks. She's okay with that. She's the only person I know that won't get it. I really want to figure this out.

Bob
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:52 am

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Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:52 am linkquote
Attila wrote:
I thought the vaccine was free from you ...
Yep, the vaccines are free in the U.S.
Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:57 am

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Mon Jun 07, 2021 10:57 am linkquote
Me, my brother, my two sisters with their husbands, my mother and my aunts ... all have been vaccinated. Grandchildren who are between 14 and 22 years of age will soon be.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:51 am

Molto Verboso
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:51 am linkquote
My daughter, my wife and I go for our Pfizer vaccine on Friday...
if we get our confirmation number.
There have been hundreds of 60+ people arriving at the venue expecting a "walk-in" service.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:33 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:33 am linkquote
BVBob wrote:
Great question! My sister is so damn stubborn about getting a free vaccine. I am lost for words... she is around children all the time and is way over weight and not an Olympic athlete. She probably couldn't survive a cold yet won't get the vaccine. Why???

Bob
Got an answer. Kinda. She said she has been around alot of people and hasn't caught it... This is an educated woman... I told her our interactions will be mainly on the phone until further notice.... I'm lost for words.

Bob
Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:59 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:59 pm linkquote
BVBob wrote:
Got an answer. Kinda. She said she has been around alot of people and hasn't caught it... This is an educated woman... I told her our interactions will be mainly on the phone until further notice.... I'm lost for words.
I doubt it's any consolation (it certainly isn't to me), but she seems to have a lot of company. Nearly a third of the population of the US, it would appear . It is just about time for us to start giving away the rest of the US vaccine supply to others who will actually use it, before it starts to go bad on the shelf.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:13 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:13 pm linkquote
Dooglas wrote:
I doubt it's any consolation (it certainly isn't to me), but she seems to have a lot of company. Nearly a third of the population of the US, it would appear . It is just about time for us to start giving away the rest of the US vaccine supply to others who will actually use it, before it starts to go bad on the shelf.
True. Sad, but true. I'm thinking this damn thing could make a slight return in the fall with all the folks not vaccinated. I guarantee this iman made virus was designed with that in mind. Oh well., I have over 200 bottles of wine on my racks so I'm ready for whatever..😁.

Bob
Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:41 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 1:41 am linkquote
BVBob wrote:
True. Sad, but true. I'm thinking this damn thing could make a slight return in the fall with all the folks not vaccinated. I guarantee this iman made virus was designed with that in mind. Oh well., I have over 200 bottles of wine on my racks so I'm ready for whatever..😁.

Bob
Perhaps it is not the topic and the right place but the bitterness of life can sometimes be sweetened by tasting something different; the strength to endure the pandemic also comes from these little things.

A Guide to the Vin Santo del Chianti Region

What would a wine fit for saints taste like? For the Tuscans, it’s a dessert wine dating back to the Middle Ages. Legend has it that the first Vin Santo was leftover wine given to the poor and sick by a 14th-century friar. Another story, also dating to the 14th century, tells of a Greek Eastern Orthodox pastor who called the wine “Xanthos” (the Greek word for “yellow,” perhaps for its yellow hue), which the locals began calling “Santos.”

Like sherry, Vin Santo wines may be sweet or dry; after harvest, the grapes are left on straw mats to dry, concentrating their sugars and aromas. After three to six months, they are pressed and fermented, then aged in sealed barrels where they traditionally developed an intentional oxidative character.
Vin Santo is made in 26 Tuscan DOCs, with four specifically dedicated to the style. In Chianti, the wine is traditionally made from a minimum 70% Trebbiano Toscana and/or Malvasia, supplemented with occasional Grechetto. The less common red Vin Santo, called Occhio di Pernice, is at least 50% Sangiovese.


https://www.vivino.com/IT/it/frescobaldi-vin-santo-del-chianti-quaranta-altari/w/1294260?year=uv&price_id=21821213&=&irgwc=1&clickid=QZ5wN4Qo3xyLW0W0EOSREQreUkBwGBWei2lBX00&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impact&utm_campaign=PM_02_12&utm_content=RedBrain%20Ltd&affsrc=1
Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:48 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:48 am linkquote
Things start opening up a bit around here on Friday. There is NO going back as even us polite rule following Canadians have had enough. Our neighbour to the south dancing in the streets also drives the point home and adds to the frustration we are feeling. We are now finally rolling out second doses and I should have mine in 2-3 weeks. THEN I will happily go and dine outside and start to live life again similar to the pre pandemic world. We (OK many) of us will be affected by this pandemic.

If you want to watch some brilliant "art" that the pandemic has brought about you should watch Bo Burnham inside on Netflix. Creatives have been locked inside as well and some categories have felt it more. Comedians are right there on the top of the list. Many of them are emotionally damaged and need the audience. Bo's work is a peek under the tent. John Mulaney is just one example of the damage that can be done.
Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:59 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:59 am linkquote
Here in Northampton Ma. we are without masks both inside and out unless you are unvaccinated, it feels strange but I've had my second shot for more than two months.
Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:55 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:55 am linkquote
flyangler wrote:
Here in Northampton Ma. we are without masks both inside and out unless you are unvaccinated, it feels strange but I've had my second shot for more than two months.
Yeah that would be strange but also understandable given how easy it is get a shot there. Of course ICU capacity etc I would hope were looked at. 100% you have unvacinated people going in to stores etc. I doubt they are asking for proof. The anti-vac crowd we are all going to have to deal with. I have no issue at all with showing proof of vaccination to attend an event or indoor dining etc.
Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:01 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:01 am linkquote
flyangler wrote:
Here in Northampton Ma. we are without masks both inside and out unless you are unvaccinated, it feels strange but I've had my second shot for more than two months.
Why do you think people who refuse vaccination will wear masks?
Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:56 am linkquote
Attila wrote:
Perhaps it is not the topic and the right place but the bitterness of life can sometimes be sweetened by tasting something different; the strength to endure the pandemic also comes from these little things.

A Guide to the Vin Santo del Chianti Region

What would a wine fit for saints taste like? For the Tuscans, it’s a dessert wine dating back to the Middle Ages. Legend has it that the first Vin Santo was leftover wine given to the poor and sick by a 14th-century friar. Another story, also dating to the 14th century, tells of a Greek Eastern Orthodox pastor who called the wine “Xanthos” (the Greek word for “yellow,” perhaps for its yellow hue), which the locals began calling “Santos.”

Like sherry, Vin Santo wines may be sweet or dry; after harvest, the grapes are left on straw mats to dry, concentrating their sugars and aromas. After three to six months, they are pressed and fermented, then aged in sealed barrels where they traditionally developed an intentional oxidative character.
Vin Santo is made in 26 Tuscan DOCs, with four specifically dedicated to the style. In Chianti, the wine is traditionally made from a minimum 70% Trebbiano Toscana and/or Malvasia, supplemented with occasional Grechetto. The less common red Vin Santo, called Occhio di Pernice, is at least 50% Sangiovese.


https://www.vivino.com/IT/it/frescobaldi-vin-santo-del-chianti-quaranta-altari/w/1294260?year=uv&price_id=21821213&=&irgwc=1&clickid=QZ5wN4Qo3xyLW0W0EOSREQreUkBwGBWei2lBX00&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=impact&utm_campaign=PM_02_12&utm_content=RedBrain%20Ltd&affsrc=1
Right now I have 3 Italians from 2020. I bottled the Tuscan Rosso and the Soave Classico. Little disappointed in the red. I have a Brunello still in the carboy. The white is excellent! First time my Italian juice didn't produce excellent wine with the two reds. I'm thinking Covid may have had something to do with it or the fact that I can't get good American Oak Chips. Wine making is a passion that I've been involved with for 25 years.

Bob
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:45 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:45 am linkquote
Dooglas wrote:
Why do you think people who refuse vaccination will wear masks?
They don’t. The change in CDC guidance means that the vaccinated can now go maskless too.

We are fully vaccinated but still masking and keeping away from known antivaxxers. We have unvaccinated grandbabies. We know their risk of death is small but it is NOT nonexistent.

Did I mention, I hate COVID-19?

Chris from CLE
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:14 pm

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Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:14 pm linkquote
Linus Torvalds, on The Linux Kernel Mailing List:
Quote:
Please keep your insane and technically incorrect anti-vax comments to yourself.

You don't know what you are talking about, you don't know what mRNA
is, and you're spreading idiotic lies. Maybe you do so unwittingly,
because of bad education. Maybe you do so because you've talked to
"experts" or watched youtube videos by charlatans that don't know what
they are talking about.

But dammit, regardless of where you have gotten your mis-information
from, any Linux kernel discussion list isn't going to have your
idiotic drivel pass uncontested from me.
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