Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:35 pm

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Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:35 pm linkquote
okay... out with it, who has them?

I've not had a "proper" motorcycle on the road since I bought the MP3 nine years ago but I did miss the handling of the bike as well as running the engine up through the gears coming out of a turn. So in the fall I bought one of the last Suzuki TU250s available (as they are getting away from aircooled stuff with still tighter emission standards coming) I've spent the winter bolting on my leftover cafe racer stuff from my misspent 2 stroke youth and am looking forward to the added variety in the stable in the spring.

so who out there has a dark secret in the back of the garage, out with 'em, post some pictures!

The "Mouse"



Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:42 pm

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'07 LX150, '81 P200E, '80 P200E, '64 V90 and 3 Ciaos
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Location: Tucson, AZ
 
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:42 pm linkquote
I've got a few. I'll need to dig up pictures, though:

'71 Honda CB500K
'73 Honda CL125S
'74 Aermacchi Harley SX125
'16 Kymco K-Pipe
'18 Kymco Spade


My Spade at the QuikTrip. X9 for scale.



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Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:56 pm

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Location: lewisville , nc. 27023
 
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 4:56 pm linkquote
I thought you were referring to "The Dark Side" meaning using a car tire on the back wheel .

I know of a few motorcycle ( Goldwing) riders who have done it and claim no adverse effects.

When I had a 650 Burgman , some of those riders put a car tire on and claim no problem.

Me, not a chance. !!
Besides, who makes a car tire that would fit on a Vespa wheel
Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:13 pm

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Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:13 pm linkquote
DandyDoug wrote:
I thought you were referring to "The Dark Side" meaning using a car tire on the back wheel.
I thought so too, especially because it's the topic of Fortnine's latest video:
I presumed this thread was to discuss that video.
Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:15 pm

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2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 1992 BMW K75
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2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 1992 BMW K75
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Location: Central Pennsylvania
Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:15 pm linkquote
In addition to the Vespa GTS I have a BMW K75 in the garage. A completely different experience from the scooter. Still riding it but man the roads are fouled with grit, sand and salt. It's almost too pretty to ride in that mess.

Here's a shot from the beginning of November on a cold morning.


1992 BMW K75 motorcycle.

Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:18 pm

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Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:18 pm linkquote
mayorofnow wrote:
DandyDoug wrote:
I thought you were referring to "The Dark Side" meaning using a car tire on the back wheel.
I thought so too, especially because it's the topic of Fortnine's latest video:
I presumed this thread was to discuss that video.
Crap, my browser will not open the video. I'll try and find him on the web. I kinda like his stuff, but the Canadian humor escapes me some times.
Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:19 pm

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Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:19 pm linkquote
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
In addition to the Vespa GTS I have a BMW K75 in the garage. A completely different experience from the scooter. Still riding it but man the roads are fouled with grit, sand and salt. It's almost too pretty to ride in that mess.

Here's a shot from the beginning of November on a cold morning.
sweetest three cylinder bike made at the time.
Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:50 pm

Enthusiast
2008 S150, 2012 GTS 300, 2002 R1150R
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Location: near Philadelphia
 
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2008 S150, 2012 GTS 300, 2002 R1150R
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Posts: 98
Location: near Philadelphia
Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:50 pm linkquote
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
In addition to the Vespa GTS I have a BMW K75 in the garage. A completely different experience from the scooter. Still riding it but man the roads are fouled with grit, sand and salt. It's almost too pretty to ride in that mess.

Here's a shot from the beginning of November on a cold morning.
Nice view of your bike. I can see why they refer to the K series as a flying brick. Thanks for posting
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:59 pm

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2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 1992 BMW K75
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Posts: 2104
Location: Central Pennsylvania
 
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2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 1992 BMW K75
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Posts: 2104
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Thu Feb 06, 2020 7:59 pm linkquote
DandyDoug wrote:
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
In addition to the Vespa GTS I have a BMW K75 in the garage. A completely different experience from the scooter. Still riding it but man the roads are fouled with grit, sand and salt. It's almost too pretty to ride in that mess.

Here's a shot from the beginning of November on a cold morning.
sweetest three cylinder bike made at the time.
It's still pretty sweet. Perhaps the smoothest motorcycle I've ever ridden.
Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:00 pm

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2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 1992 BMW K75
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Posts: 2104
Location: Central Pennsylvania
 
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2006 Vespa GTS250ie, 1992 BMW K75
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Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:00 pm linkquote
meilaj wrote:
VESPAsfw3 wrote:
In addition to the Vespa GTS I have a BMW K75 in the garage. A completely different experience from the scooter. Still riding it but man the roads are fouled with grit, sand and salt. It's almost too pretty to ride in that mess.

Here's a shot from the beginning of November on a cold morning.
Nice view of your bike. I can see why they refer to the K series as a flying brick. Thanks for posting
The engine on the left side sure does look like a brick. And that bike can fly!
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:36 pm

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Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
Joined: 12 Apr 2015
Posts: 2720
Location: Finland
 
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Triumph Street Scrambler 2018, Suzuki VanVan200 (sold), 2015 Sprint 125 (sold)
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Posts: 2720
Location: Finland
Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:36 pm linkquote
Nice bike!

Just out of curiosity: is the TU250 still made in Japan?

My late VanVan200 was and the quality of everything was just amazing. Those bikes will last forever....
Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:48 pm

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Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:48 pm linkquote
RRider wrote:
Nice bike!

Just out of curiosity: is the TU250 still made in Japan?

My late VanVan200 was and the quality of everything was just amazing. Those bikes will last forever....
It was made in Japan until the end of the 2019 model year. Suzuki has discontinued it and the Van Van due to upcoming emissions regulations. Its just getting too tough to get aircooled engines through.

I grabbed mine in the fall when i found out, it was the last the dealer had.
Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:58 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 10:58 am linkquote
DandyDoug wrote:
I know of a few motorcycle ( Goldwing) riders who have done it and claim no adverse effects.

What is an Adverse effect? Because it will not turn as well. i call that an adverse effect.
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:09 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 8142
Location: Latina (Italy)
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 8142
Location: Latina (Italy)
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:09 am linkquote
In restoration: Moto Guzzi Airone 250 Sport

Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:43 am

Enthusiast
GTV 300 - GTS 300
Joined: 24 Jul 2018
Posts: 71
Location: Charlotte, NC USA
 
Enthusiast
GTV 300 - GTS 300
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Posts: 71
Location: Charlotte, NC USA
Fri Feb 07, 2020 11:43 am linkquote
Not really a secret as I am seen on it occasionally. I say occasionally because the GTV usually gets the nod unless it is a multi day trip with interstate involved
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:33 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
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Location: Santa Cruz California
 
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2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:33 pm linkquote
My 2001 BMW R1100RT. 2001 was the last year for this model which started in 1995, the year VESPAsfw3 K75 stopped production. I got it about a year ago and love it. I found myself riding it more than my GTV250. Like the Vespa, its really a pretty simple bike and easy to work on. Virtually no electronic controls and is oil-cooled. The mechanic I take it to tells me to just keep gas and oil in it and it will run forever. He maintains the local police and CHP bikes. I routinely see R1100RTP (police version) and the successor R1150RTP with 150,000-200,000 miles at his shop. I really like the aerodynamic fairings they introduces with the R1100RT.

Dark, whose BMW R1200RT is posted above, was influential in my getting it. He may not remember it but I had a number of PM exchanges with him last year before I bought it. Thanks for all that advice Dark!

Best
Miguel



Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:49 pm

Member
300 GTS Super
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Posts: 35
Location: Northern California
 
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300 GTS Super
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Location: Northern California
Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:49 pm linkquote
While obviously not a motorcycle, it's my mini bike from 1967... and I still have it!


Bonanza BC1300

Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:51 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
Joined: 13 Oct 2012
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Location: Ashburn, Va. Home to the Internet
 
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2008 MP3 500, 2013 BV350, 2020 Vespa Sei Giorni
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 12:51 pm linkquote
Damn I started on a Bonanza.
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:00 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2009 GTV250 (Gone), 2003 Inder trailer, 2001 BMW R1100RT
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Posts: 5242
Location: Santa Cruz California
 
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:00 pm linkquote
Iniezione wrote:
While obviously not a motorcycle, it's my mini bike from 1967... and I still have it!
I always wanted a minibike but financially, it was not possible then. I've made up for it tho

Best
Miguel
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:15 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Posts: 12223
Location: Oregon City, OR
 
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GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
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Location: Oregon City, OR
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:15 pm linkquote
DandyDoug wrote:
Crap, my browser will not open the video. I'll try and find him on the web. I kinda like his stuff, but the Canadian humor escapes me some times.
If you right click the video, you can copy the YouTube URL.
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:26 pm

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2012 Kymco Like 200i (Sold), 2018 FLSL
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Location: San Jose, CA
 
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:26 pm linkquote
Iniezione wrote:
While obviously not a motorcycle, it's my mini bike from 1967... and I still have it!
I like that. So great you still have it. When I was in middle school in early 70s I had a Sears El Tigre minibike. Such a blast to ride!
Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:34 pm

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2012 Kymco Like 200i (Sold), 2018 FLSL
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Location: San Jose, CA
 
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 1:34 pm linkquote
My 2018 H-D Slim. Love the minimalist styling.



Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:27 pm

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Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:27 pm linkquote
WEB-Tech wrote:
DandyDoug wrote:
I know of a few motorcycle ( Goldwing) riders who have done it and claim no adverse effects.

What is an Adverse effect? Because it will not turn as well. i call that an adverse effect.
They usually mount a car tire for longer tread life. The problem or adverse effect is the tire profile. Motorcycle tires are more rounded at the outer edge, car tires are basically a flat profile. So in theory the motorcycle tire should be able to lean in a turn and maintain traction better than a car tire on a two wheeled vehicle.

Those that have gone over to "The Dark Side" claim they don't notice any difference. However , they are riding a 900lb + soft suspension machine and rarely get much lean angle anyway.
end of sermon
Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:46 pm

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Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
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Location: Hyde Park, New York
 
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Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:46 pm linkquote
Oldies but goodies. 1991 Honda and 1983 Kawasaki




Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:05 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
946
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Location: Acworth, GA
 
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946
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:05 pm linkquote
I *had* a Honda CB750 "Nighthawk" back in 2008-2009. I loved it, at first, and then grew to just tolerate it. I purchased it with just over 3000 miles on it, and I sold it with just over 4k. For the type of riding (for pleasure, that is) I was mostly doing at the time, the top-heavy inline 4-cyl of the Honda was just no comparison to a Vespa.

I've been kicking around the idea of getting a proper motorcycle again, but I get analysis paralysis - can't decide what direction to go. Maybe a new Triumph (Bonnie or Thruxton), maybe a pre-owned Ducati Scrambler (or 696 Monster), or maybe something vintage.

When I start seriously considering acquisition costs of one of those bikes, though, I think to myself - "that amount of money would buy one *damn* nice vintage Vespa or Lambretta, with money left over. First world problem, I know...
Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:39 pm

Member
300 GTS Super
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Location: Northern California
 
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300 GTS Super
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Fri Feb 07, 2020 4:39 pm linkquote
From the other dark side of my garage.
My first "real" motorcycle... was the 1970 Honda CL 100, that I purchased new. It has always provided reliable, cheap transportation and is still a hoot to ride. It's as fast (if not a bit quicker) than the stock 125cc Monkey, in the background.





Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:38 pm

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Vespa Dealer
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Posts: 195
Location: Toronto Ontario Canada
 
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Location: Toronto Ontario Canada
Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:38 pm linkquote
Re: The Dark Side.... motorcycles
Fritz Katzenjammer wrote:
okay... out with it, who has them?

I've not had a "proper" motorcycle on the road since I bought the MP3 nine years ago but I did miss the handling of the bike as well as running the engine up through the gears coming out of a turn. So in the fall I bought one of the last Suzuki TU250s available (as they are getting away from aircooled stuff with still tighter emission standards coming) I've spent the winter bolting on my leftover cafe racer stuff from my misspent 2 stroke youth and am looking forward to the added variety in the stable in the spring.

so who out there has a dark secret in the back of the garage, out with 'em, post some pictures!

The "Mouse"
Me likes! Ola fellow burlingtonian!
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:29 pm

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'09 GTS 250ie
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Location: wetside,WA
 
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'09 GTS 250ie
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Location: wetside,WA
Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:29 pm linkquote
Fritz, congrats on the TU250. Not a freeway flier but a great fun small bore bike. Keep up on the simple maint and your grand kids will be enjoying it for years!
Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:02 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 8142
Location: Latina (Italy)
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
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Posts: 8142
Location: Latina (Italy)
Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:02 am linkquote
Re: From the other dark side of my garage.
Iniezione wrote:
My first "real" motorcycle... was the 1970 Honda CL 100, that I purchased new. It has always provided reliable, cheap transportation and is still a hoot to ride. It's as fast (if not a bit quicker) than the stock 125cc Monkey, in the background.
Magnificent the CL 100 as well in its small way ... a friend has a CL 350 Twin, similar style.
What is the minibike Bonanza ? I knew that Rokon built such things; do you know that you have vehicles that are completely unknown in Italy? Also for experts in the motorcycle and scooter sector ...
Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:48 am

Member
300 GTS Super
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Posts: 35
Location: Northern California
 
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300 GTS Super
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Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:48 am linkquote
Re: From the other dark side of my garage.
Thanks everyone for your comments.

Bonanza was just one of many manufactures in the US producing mini bikes during the early 1960's through mid 1970's. Bonanza was made in San Jose, California and was popular until Honda, Kawasaki and other large Japanese firms started producing their version of a small mini motorcycle.

In Italy, you had Benelli, Italjet, Moto Beta and others producing small bikes, during that period.

-Doug
Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:37 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
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Posts: 12223
Location: Oregon City, OR
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
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Posts: 12223
Location: Oregon City, OR
Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:37 am linkquote
This was a bike I bought and rode around Florida 10 or 12 years ago. The Suzuki S40 has to be the smoothest running thumper ever built. It is light weight, comfortable to ride, and quite reliable. New or used, it is also one of the best motorcycle bargains around. I miss this bike.



Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:03 am

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2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
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Posts: 681
Location: Norfolk, VA
 
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2019 Piaggio Liberty 150
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Posts: 681
Location: Norfolk, VA
Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:03 am linkquote
Savage/S40! I've always had a soft spot for those!
Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:04 am

eeee-bip
BMW R1100RT - The Paperweight Royal Enfield 500 Trials
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
Posts: 18155
Location: South East Great England of Britishland
 
eeee-bip
BMW R1100RT - The Paperweight Royal Enfield 500 Trials
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Location: South East Great England of Britishland
Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:04 am linkquote
Penis
This........



Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:49 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2020 Honda NC750DCT ABS
Joined: 06 Feb 2006
Posts: 6868
Location: Maple Grove, MN
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2020 Honda NC750DCT ABS
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Posts: 6868
Location: Maple Grove, MN
Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:49 pm linkquote
2004 Yamaha V-Star 650 with abut 30,000 miles on it. Every time I take it by the dealer they're amazed at how good it runs considering the age, mileage and displacement. I'd kind of like it to be a bit less reliable so I can justify buying something else!



Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:02 pm

Molto Verboso
LXS 150
Joined: 13 Aug 2009
Posts: 1147
Location: The OTHER South Bay, CA
 
Molto Verboso
LXS 150
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Posts: 1147
Location: The OTHER South Bay, CA
Sat Feb 08, 2020 6:02 pm linkquote
Hello from the Otter Slide
'19 Husky Svartpilen 401.
Surprisingly decent commuter.



Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:25 pm

Enthusiast
2006 Fly 150
Joined: 27 Jan 2018
Posts: 66
Location: So. Calif / L.A. Harbor Area
 
Enthusiast
2006 Fly 150
Joined: 27 Jan 2018
Posts: 66
Location: So. Calif / L.A. Harbor Area
Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:25 pm linkquote
Just the Opposite for me the Fly 150 is the Dark Side





Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:33 pm

Molto Verboso
Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
Joined: 07 Dec 2008
Posts: 1339
Location: Hyde Park, New York
 
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Dongfang 170cc, CF Moto Fashion 250
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Posts: 1339
Location: Hyde Park, New York
Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:33 pm linkquote
There is also another issue. If you keep building the same old thing year after year you risk falling behind.

The original CB-750 was Honda's lead bike for almost ten years while the other three Japanese companies built more advanced four cylinder bikes. It's why Suzuki built a Rotary, Yamaha built Genesis engines with five valves and Kawasaki builds supercharged bikes.
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:18 pm

Enthusiast
2019 Primavera 150
Joined: 02 Feb 2018
Posts: 70
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
 
Enthusiast
2019 Primavera 150
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Posts: 70
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:18 pm linkquote
Actually I'm new to scooters, but have enjoyed riding bikes for 38 years...my current other rides are the 09 ST1300 and 97 VTR1000F.





Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:37 pm

Ossessionato
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Posts: 2594
Location: Veria, Greece
 
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1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2011 Yamaha Fazer 600 S2
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Location: Veria, Greece
Mon Feb 10, 2020 12:37 pm linkquote
I'd say that Vespas took me to the dark side. My baby, though neglected for the past year. Damn you Vespas!!!







Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:28 pm

Member
LX50 ish
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Posts: 10
Location: Canada
 
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LX50 ish
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Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:28 pm linkquote
I've got this whole fleet of stuff, I'm a two wheel guy through and through.



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