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Finally got the brass bushing in and went to finish the clutch rebuild and ... the damn drive gear looks like it's warped.
How does that even happen?!?!

Mmmmmrph

In the mean time, got all the cables are in. Just need to do the rear brake wires to the pedal and the tail light. Gave a halfhearted, no-progress go on the twilight tube and stopped before frustration took over. Man that tube is tiny.

Inching along.
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That sucks.
Verily.

In the small victory category.... I was able to get the taillight wires home. I ran a piece of 30# monofilament up the tube that was tethered to 10# braid. Then used the braid to tie a line-pull hitch around the three taillight wires. Used a tiny pice of electrical to make a taper for the wires and to covver the bottom of the line pull hitch. The braid worked a charm and with a combo of pushing and pulling we finally got them though.
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Chipping away
Finally had the parts and the time to make some headway. Asside from the rear hub and wires the engine is all but buttoned up.

Anybody with an earlish VNB know what the correct wire routing off the stator is?

I ran the wires straight up through the little case cavity at about 11 o clock. But there is another hole a bit after about 9 o'clock? (Where my finger is.) I was thinking maybe that was for the ground wire from the OG stator?

Any help would be appreciated.
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Just went through this on the GL.

Seems older models with the HT coil integrated into the stator plate needed that hole for the fat high tension wire to exit out of.

The parts diagram shows a plug for that hole on models that use an external HT coil.

Hat tip to poidog for educating me.
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Just went through this on the GL.

Seems older models with the HT coil integrated into the stator plate needed that hole for the fat high tension wire to exit out of.

The parts diagram shows a plug for that hole on models that use an external HT coil.

Hat tip to poidog for educating me.
Good to know what did you use to plug the extra hole?
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A random grommet with a blob Voodoo's favorite stuff (Shoo Goo) in the middle.
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Floor rail fun. (mmmmrphh)
But, listening to baseball on the transistor and getting a quality wine buzz ain't a bad way to spend a Saturday.

1 down 5 to go. (Glasses and rails).
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Now that put a broad smile on my face.
Looks like you were blessed with a little rain just beyond the covered area - which always makes you feel like there really isn't anything else you could do anyway!
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Rails!
Center mat!
Front end....

Holy shit... we may be done by Xmas! (If the covid doesn't get us firsts.)


Seriously... Played hooky from work for a day and made some progress. Hopefully I can slap the engine in over the weekend and start connecting cables and wires.
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Wow that looks fantastic!
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gonna get a vbb in my stable at some point, hopefully soon if some horse trading succeeds...
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Thx friends. Appreciate the encouragement and kind words.

The shit went back in the box today. Mounted the engine.
Granted, still have cables and wires to connect and still need to decipher the pinasco ignition. But... we are one day closer!
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so... riding by saturday?

i mean, it's only tuesday....

heh heh heh

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Looking so good.
If you wanna juice your momentum and avert some potential frustrations late in the game - you might hook up the ignition next and give it a start.
Can be with baling wire and alligator clips as long as they don't get tangled in the flywheel...
Sure feels good when it kicks over - tho it could just be the red stuff in the glass.
The idea is - start it with the engine isolated from the rest of the electrics.
That way - you know you have the ignition wired up correctly so if it refuses to operate when all wired in - its something else you did with the other wiring.
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It's not uncommon to find old scooters that farmers have cut holes in the sheet metal in order to gain access to the control cables.
This seems to come up a lot. I can picture the scene:

"Gash dern it Elmer. How'd ya think them cables go in ther?"
"Dunno. Them Eyetalians do funny things on ther vehicles."
"Hmm. Suppos'n we cut a access hole in the floor d'make it werk?"
"Sounds good. Let's get t' cut'n."
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Looking so good.
If you wanna juice your momentum and avert some potential frustrations late in the game - you might hook up the ignition next and give it a start.
Oh this for sure. Thx. The shadiest part of my shade tree mechanic skills would be the electrical. I'd much rather make sure the mechanicals are square before trying to wire the switch and lights.

Speaking of electrical... if anyone reading this has done the Pinasco EI I'd love to see a pic or two of how you mounted the regulator! TIA
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This seems to come up a lot. I can picture the scene:

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"Dunno. Them Eyetalians do funny things on ther vehicles."
"Hmm. Suppos'n we cut a access hole in the floor d'make it werk?"
"Sounds good. Let's get t' cut'n."
Old Elmer did a (w)hole lot of cuttin' on this one... What's curious is that it isn't that difficult to suss out how the cables run and if ya pull the horn off it just seems so easy to figure it all out. Granted some scoots like the 150/160s with that weird tube are another ball of wax. But, come on. Matter of patience I guess... and I have none so I understand it on some level.
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You are doing really great and looks great, the rails for me were the most stressfull , should be lots of info available for the Pinasco ignition, are there a few variations ?
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Looking good BN!

I installed the electronic ignition and didn't want to drill holes in the frame, so I attached a ground strap to the body of the regulator, then shoegoo'd the thing to the body. So far so good!
I drilled a hole in the regulator casing, soldered a ground wire, then shoegoo'd the wire to the body, and shogoo'd the regulator to the frame.
I drilled a hole in the regulator casing, soldered a ground wire, then shoegoo'd the wire to the body, and shogoo'd the regulator to the frame.
A little better pic of what I did
A little better pic of what I did
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Looks nice and neat.
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Nice work there. And with pictures too! Gratzi Scott!
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I would mount the voltage regulator inside the chassis on the cowl bolt. You will get a much cleaner look.
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That's super clean. Dig.
So you are basically mounting the VR underneath the gas tank?
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Voltage Regulator
Can I get a little help/confirmation?

Pinasco electronic ignition.
Non battery VNB, no turn signals.

Moving left to right. (errr... top to bottom as the pictured) Red goes to the 1st connector on the vr
Blue goes to the third.

Yellow just stays unconnected.
Or?
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Can I get a little help/confirmation?

Pinasco electronic ignition.
Non battery VNB, no turn signals.

Moving left to right. (errr... top to bottom as the pictured) Red goes to the 1st connector on the vr
Blue goes to the third.

Yellow just stays unconnected.
Or?
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So much for my ability to decipher that diagram!
Lolz

Thanks Jonathan.
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Well... that's not gonna work...

Anybody got a good source on proper gaskets for Siem acorns circa early 60s?
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We're in that grindy part of the process. Finish line is in site... but there is another hill, and then another, and a few more to climb before you get there.

Interestingly I have found out (many of you knew this I'm sure..) that there are a few different speedo cable types made over the years. No one is currently repopping the skinny one that fit the early 60's square speedo.

After chatting with diamond Dave at Scooter M I got out the bodge tool aka the grinder and mutilated the fat ends of that speedo like a fat kid working a piece of corn on the cob at a BBQ.

And the bodgery, it worked. Cable seated in the cog and in the speedo. Woot.

Next up -
Switch
Headlight
Taillight

(and I am sure 2 or 3 other hills I haven't accounted for0
before action
before action
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After action shot is brilliant!! Very nice.
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Like it! Wouldn't be a Vespa speedo if it didn't show the scooter doing at least 5 km/h parked.
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Speedo looks awesome so does the headset what did you use?
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Pretty work my man, pretty work

Finish line is in sight!

So maiden voyage Saturday evening, right?

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So maiden voyage Saturday evening, right? -g
Absolutely. Which Saturday is a matter of some debate, but yeah... a Saturday night sounds about right!
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Like it! Wouldn't be a Vespa speedo if it didn't show the scooter doing at least 5 km/h parked.
True story

I could get it to zero but then the odometer numbers were crocked. ;-p

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Hibbert - I shot the the headset with a PPG automotive matched color through an airbrush.

It's a step down from shooting with an automotive paint gun, but a step up from a rattlecan. I think page 3 has the headset paint work in more detail.

But the short story- it was stripped with a ceramic wheel, hit with primer, sand, and paint and then splashed with talcum to cut the gloss.
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Very cool never heard of that technique but it looks great from here!
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thx sir!

In the weird happenings category... Dropped an air filter screw while cabling the carb into the mystery vortex. I have no idea where the screw went and it ain't small! I know the slide was closed so it didn't fall into the engine. Wondering if it slipped into the opening where the old HT exited the cases behind the flywheel? Pulling the flywheel to check, albeit I suspect it is actually laying in a fluffy pile of mismatched socks with lost car keys and a million contact lenses.
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