piaggio 500 in scomadi 50
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300 gts
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Location: Derby.UK
Fri Jan 24, 2020 11:47 pm quote
New project , Just to see if it can be done really, seems to going pretty good, got some frame reinforcments to make as yet, but up to know things are looking workable.



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Gilera Runner 500cc.
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
Posts: 157
Location: Netherlands
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:55 am quote
Go for it!

If you want a dual front disk, but not a verry expensive 13 inch front wheel.
Or a big 16 inch Beverly wheel.
You can also use a 14 inch Peugeot Satelis 500 front wheel.

Piaggio delivered the Master engine to Peugeot, and they installed it on the Satelis.

The rear wheel of the satelis is also 14 inch.
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
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Location: Derby.UK
Sat Jan 25, 2020 10:58 pm quote
front wheel
Front forks wont take a bigger wheel, however a mte has a twin front disc specially designed for scomadi race scoots.
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300 gts
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Location: Derby.UK
Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:15 pm quote
Mounts on
engine mounts now fitted and tensioner bar almost ready to be fitted.



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300 gts
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Location: Derby.UK
Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:17 pm quote
loop tried
all fits nicley under the loop



Molto Verboso
2006 LX150 (carbed) | 2007 GT200
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Location: Toronto
Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:32 am quote

Cool!
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Sun Jan 26, 2020 11:46 pm quote
engine all mounted
engine mounts are now fitted, i still have a little fabrication to do as yet . will post more as i go.



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Vespa Gt 200 '03, PX 125 '05
Joined: 20 Jan 2020
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Location: Hungary, Pécs
Mon Jan 27, 2020 4:37 am quote
incredible crazy and funny

go go go and please keep taking pictures

thank you
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Kawasaki Z1000, Yamaha R1, Honda SH300i, Gilera DNA180
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 122
Location: London, UK
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:11 am quote
Top stuff
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Gilera Runner 500cc.
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
Posts: 157
Location: Netherlands
Mon Jan 27, 2020 5:34 am quote
Just a question.
why don't you use a Scomadi TL125, and convert that to a 500cc.
Then you can get that registered as a heavy bike, because it already is a small bike.
This way it is road legal.

Here in the Netherlands that is the way to go.
Don't know exact how it works in your country.....
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300 gts
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Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:20 am quote
125
A tl 125 frame and a tl 50 frame are exactly the same, the difference between a tl 125 scooter and a tl 50 scooter is about £1,200. plus the 50cc scooter has twin shock mounts and the tl125 only has 1. most of the bigger engines use 2 shocks, not a mono shock, so for me a 50cc is a no brainer.
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Gilera Runner 500cc.
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
Posts: 157
Location: Netherlands
Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:34 am quote
Re: 125
tige wrote:
A tl 125 frame and a tl 50 frame are exactly the same, the difference between a tl 125 scooter and a tl 50 scooter is about £1,200. plus the 50cc scooter has twin shock mounts and the tl125 only has 1. most of the bigger engines use 2 shocks, not a mono shock, so for me a 50cc is a no brainer.
But never road legal then?
In holland you cant go from a 50cc to a 125 or more.
From a 125cc to more is possible and legal.
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300 gts
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Location: Derby.UK
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:19 pm quote
Road Legal
I have converted many 50cc into 300,s all have been registered with no problems what so ever, ive built a 400 burgman based scomadi , and several lambretta series 2 with gts engines also fitted. The last lambretta done was adapted for a guy who only has one arm, so hydraulic rear brake lhs throttle and switches etc.

Extreme mod
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300 gts
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Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:38 pm quote
fabrication near the end
most of the fabrication is done now, just mounts for regulator ecu etc. I have a small problem with the throttle body catching the frame work, I have ordered a mp3 500 intake which is made from alloy, so it can be cut and welded.



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piaggio hexagon
Joined: 17 Aug 2013
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Location: lincolnshire uk
Wed Feb 19, 2020 11:34 am quote
Very impressive work.
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:18 pm quote
resumed work.
Had to put the 500 on hold while i built a lambretta auto for some one, but back on it again now. been busy modding parts to work in this frame, ie the throttle body was catching the frame,and being made from hard rubber could not be altered, i found an alloy mp3 one which allowed me to cut shape and weld.



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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Tue Mar 17, 2020 10:20 pm quote
Tank
i have also modded the alloy fuel tank,and put a tunnel in it so the throttle body is clear of it, also welded a threaded ring in it for the fuel pump. will post some more pics when ive fitted it.
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LXV 150 3v ie. Midnight Blue (Sold)
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Location: Kingdom of Lanna
Tue Mar 17, 2020 11:04 pm quote
Derby. Must be a RR man?
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300 gts
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Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Wed Mar 18, 2020 10:12 pm quote
RR Man
I am self employed builder, this is my hobby.
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Kawasaki Z1000, Yamaha R1, Honda SH300i, Gilera DNA180
Joined: 08 Oct 2008
Posts: 122
Location: London, UK
Thu Mar 19, 2020 5:11 am quote
Do like your work
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Thu Mar 19, 2020 7:39 am quote
My work
Many thanks, i enjoy it, keeps me out the way of the grankids.lol
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:59 pm quote
Fuel tank
Fuel tank is ready to be fitted now, As you cure one problem another occures lol, i need to mod the battery box so it still fits.



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Gilera Runner 500cc.
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
Posts: 157
Location: Netherlands
Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:17 pm quote
I am using a mutch smaller Lifepo 4 battery for my build.
And you can mount it any way you want.
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:15 am quote
Battery
I could use a lion but no need i still have room fro a mottobat i have to move it to the rhs slightly , If need be i cold mount in the toolbox also, but thanks any way.
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skipper st125
Joined: 28 Apr 2014
Posts: 53
Location: York,uk
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:51 am quote
I like to read and look at your projects.
Great work as ever.

Robbie
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Vespa GTS 150 3v SUPER. Vespa V100 x 1. Lambretta Li150 x 1. Px 125 x 2. Px 200 x 1 (red bull special) T5 Classic x 1. Vespa Cosa x 2.CF moto 650mt
Joined: 31 May 2015
Posts: 388
Location: Perth Australia
Tue Mar 24, 2020 10:24 pm quote
Quality....
Amazing skills and abilities. Can't wait to see the finished result. Kudos to you having the balls to take on such a project.
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Mon May 04, 2020 10:53 pm quote
wiring harness
Quick update on progression. due to the current situation, the fromt wheel is still waiting to be machined , the rad is waiting to be made, these guy,s have closed shop until they can get back to work. I have also been struggling to get the correct wiring loom for the ecu and decoder, I managed to locate one in france, and that took a life time to turn up, arrived last week, so i have been altering it to fit the scomadi frame, ie location of relays coils fan etc, then removing helmet box switches and unnecessary wires incd electric stand wires, And making sure i do not cut any necessary circuits in the process.
I will post some more pics as soon as the loom is finished, and the fuel tank is back in. Hope every one is keeping safe.
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P Series / Li / LML / Motobi
Joined: 24 Jun 2019
Posts: 453
Location: UK - 3rd Rock From the Sun
Sun May 10, 2020 5:12 am quote
Thats some excellent work

what does it take to get on your list? I have a silver special that could really use an auto conversion
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Sun May 10, 2020 10:22 am quote
on my list
When all this madness is all over and we can actually meet and discuss things. I have a few waiting but only quick conversions.
You can message me from my fb page.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/355677854963746/
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Gilera Runner 500cc.
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
Posts: 157
Location: Netherlands
Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:32 am quote
Any news about the build?
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:52 pm quote
Final build about to start
I have a project on the bench this week that should be complete tomorrow, then the final 500 build will start.The frame is now back from being blasted and powder coated


Powder coted fame


powder coat frame 2

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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:55 pm quote
Not had the time
This build has been put on hold several times to work on other peoples projects for them, i dont like to turn people away or let them down, So mine has taken a bit of a back seat, but once its on the bench this week, That is where it will stay until complete.
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:58 pm quote
scootering magazine.
The red lambretta i built last year is now complete and its story is in the scootering magazine this month.





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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:35 pm quote
Coming together
Started the final assembly, And doing a few tweaks.



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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:37 pm quote
Exhaust has to go
Thinking of using a carbon can on this build, the stainless exhaust is so heavy, Not to mention ugly.
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Gilera Runner 500cc.
Joined: 11 Mar 2014
Posts: 157
Location: Netherlands
Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:19 pm quote
A mivv exhaust is lighter, smaller, and sounds better.

Leovince Granturismo is also a quality exhaust.
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:44 pm quote
end result.
end result.


x9.500

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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Fri Apr 16, 2021 9:47 pm quote
twin disc
twin disc system





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Vespa lxv 125 vie dell moda Chianti
Joined: 28 Aug 2012
Posts: 831
Location: Cheshire
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:03 pm quote
Looks might fine
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300 gts
Joined: 09 Apr 2017
Posts: 101
Location: Derby.UK
Fri Apr 16, 2021 11:14 pm quote
end result.
Thanks, i am pleased with the end result, A lot of time and working things out went into its development, but all worth it.
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