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Re: Piaggio Liberty
Wright wrote: Where's the best info on Piaggios found? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgUL5qPiVYo&t=112s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPJPZEaRwxo O.S. |
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The Vespa Motorsport reviews are always interesting, it's a pity that on the latest version of the Liberty they have not mounted a disc brake at the rear but i suppose it is to keep the price (relatively) low.
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If you have a question that's specific OldSchoot is a pretty avid Liberty owner and a few others here are familiar with it.
The forum search function also works pretty well. |
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Harbinger wrote: If you have a question that's specific OldSchoot is a pretty avid Liberty owner and a few others here are familiar with it. The forum search function also works pretty well. |
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It's that blue scoot I will be riding to work this week cuz I am finally doing some cosmetics on my LXV150IE and also installed the usb outlet I have wanted. Have vacation coming up the last week of the month and a scooter rally to play with friends. So it's Libby's turn to haul me and the lunch bag to the pig plant this coming week, weather allowing.
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I have a Liberty. I like mine. What are you asking about? Just Gotta Scoot also did a review of it. That's what made me go look at one and end up buying it.
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What exactly do you want to know about the Piaggio 150? I had one for two years and just sold it to upgrade to a Vespa GTS 300. The Liberty rides much better but doesn't have the balls of the 300. Still will get to 65mph, air cooled, light, small gas tank is a gripe. Awesome scooter.
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Yep. It's a good 150 if that's what you want and don't care about not having the Vespa badge. See very little on here about gripes the Oldschoot has had a few and still seems happy with it. I think something about the gas cap and windshield reflecting back light when riding in the dark.
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Harbinger wrote: Yep. It's a good 150 if that's what you want and don't care about not having the Vespa badge. See very little on here about gripes the Oldschoot has had a few and still seems happy with it. I think something about the gas cap and windshield reflecting back light when riding in the dark. Skip the Piaggio windscreen for the Faco screen and you'll be happy. I subsequently learned that Scooter West parts guy was getting complaints with the Piaggio fly screen which they sell for the Liberty. O.S. |
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Attila wrote: ... hey ... don't speak ill of the 150, they have many arrows in favor to shoot ... |
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Harbinger wrote: Attila wrote: ... hey ... don't speak ill of the 150, they have many arrows in favor to shoot ... Joke... I think I had already said it, Italian products are well designed but they sin in some aspects of the execution ... and they always and always fall into this! That's what pisses me off ... yes, perfection doesn't exist, I agree but don't even have to excuse the stupidity don't you think? Here it is said that if Italian mortadella has a flavor and that made elsewhere, despite having the same appearance, does not, it is for a specific reason. Perhaps a Vespa produced in Japan will be more perfect but those who drive it will not perceive the same taste knowing that it is not made with some imperfection, in Italy. It is said that the ancient Egyptian shipbuilders built on purpose with some defects in order not to offend the gods because only they were perfect (I watch too many cultural transmissions) and so the ships did not sink (if maintenance was done ... right thing also for the scooter). |
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Re: Piaggio Liberty
OldSchooot wrote: Wright wrote: Where's the best info on Piaggios found? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgUL5qPiVYo&t=112s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPJPZEaRwxo O.S. Also, OldSchooot is being modest as he has owned one for a couple two three years and has gotten his hand dirty wrenching the scooter. I would reach out to him. |
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I love my Liberty but have come to the conclusion that in order to remove the front panel to put a usb outlet in the left side, across from ignition switch I will be putting the scooter in the house and taking apart almost the entire body shell. They did Not design this scooter with any thoughts to an owner wanting something as simple as a darn usb outlet to charge a blooming smartphone.
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I just bought the USB adapter for my Battery Tender and routed it under my seat. My phone is old, Galaxy 3!, and needs to be charged on a regular basis. The USB port was tempting from Piaggio until I saw what was involved. Same with the optional side stand.
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Perhaps the side stand is more useful, when you are tired and in a hurry you will find it indispensable.
The USB socket is limiting, better a classic 12 volt which can also be useful for keeping the battery charged as long as it is connected (with fuse) directly to the battery; for the phone you use an adapter cable. |
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sc00ter wrote: I just bought the USB adapter for my Battery Tender and routed it under my seat. My phone is old, Galaxy 3!, and needs to be charged on a regular basis. The USB port was tempting from Piaggio until I saw what was involved. Same with the optional side stand. I did not want to add another reason for my scooter to fault to no-start some day, so did not connect the lockout. Installing the sidestand itself is easy - once that little rascal panel is deleted down there. O.S. |
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I now own a real, physical shop manual for my Libby! Thanks to the member who informed me/us that we could go to AF1 Racing and buy a pdf download. Which I did and then finally had the time to go to town and have Office Depot turn that into a spiral bound real book! Yes, I am jazzed, as I can mark or hi light stuff, I can use it in bright sunlight, it won't break if I drop it. My iPad will, so now I can do a better job of taking care of my ride..as any actual knowledgeable mechanic is about 120 miles south and my small car has no trailer hitch-yet... oh, as for the costs, with the heavier plastic covers I paid $50 and will consider that to be a wise investment.
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My friend who always helps when I'm working on either scooter keeps insisting on converting the PDF files to a spiral bound manual. Have yet to do it though. I'm also in the process of getting a receiver hitch for my Honda Fit. I'm sure it can tow a scooter sized trailer and scooter. My Liberty has been a great little scooter so far. I'm kinda tempted to get something a bit larger, like a GTS, but the Liberty still serves its purpose to my satisfaction.
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Twenty-four responses over 8 months and the OP never returned to comment or thank anyone for their information? That is somewhat discouraging.
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Dooglas wrote: Twenty-four responses over 8 months and the OP never returned to comment or thank anyone for their information? That is somewhat discouraging. |
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Dooglas wrote: Twenty-four responses over 8 months and the OP never returned to comment or thank anyone for their information? That is somewhat discouraging. |
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Purchsed my 2018 Liberty 'S' straight out of the box, summer of 2017.
From a Vespa dealer who folded his rural dealership after tornado damage. It's never been back to a dealer. So 5 summers on - the Piaggio Liberty flyscreen glare-back is ignored/forgotten; original sticking plastic gas cap is history, having been replaced by nice red billet aluminum "VESPA" cap ($12 eBay). And I can report having "0" other complaints.....but, "early days yet." Only 4 solid years of riding .....this great scooter. I'll buy a white one tomorrow if I win Ohio's vaxamillion lottery😊 O.S. |
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This is the scoot my wife thinks she wants. New-ish rider, currently using a 125cc Buddy (works great) but a beater, salvaged, cosmetically challenged and those tiny tires.....
So we read and we look. Thanks for the info |
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I would be afraid to buy a Piaggio Liberty as a second scooter, it goes so well, it is easy to maintain and despite its minimalism (perhaps for this reason) it never breaks and therefore I could get on it and never get off ... I would abandon mine main scooter!
No thanks, I don't want a perfect scooter. |
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Attila wrote: I would be afraid to buy a Piaggio Liberty as a second scooter, it goes so well, it is easy to maintain and despite its minimalism (perhaps for this reason) it never breaks and therefore I could get on it and never get off ... I would abandon mine main scooter! No thanks, I don't want a perfect scooter. Some day I'll get the Angels onto the Liberty...? O.S. |
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I have a Liberty 150 for three years now and still in love. I can't imagine ever going back a small wheeled Vespa , unless of course it would be for show. I have quite a bit of experience with the liberty pls feel free to ask any questions. Its reliable , stable , quick, reliable , sexy and easy maintenance.
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kdude wrote: I have a Liberty 150 for three years now and still in love. I can't imagine ever going back a small wheeled Vespa , unless of course it would be for show. I have quite a bit of experience with the liberty pls feel free to ask any questions. Its reliable , stable , quick, reliable , sexy and easy maintenance. I keep putting it off -,even though I have a set of Angels waiting in the closet. Will be pulling the wheels myself - since local big cycle/scooter (but not Vespa/Piaggio) dealer says they'd mount my tires but would rather not fool with removing the wheels. Any advice is appreciated. I do have the AF1-Racing Piaggio serv manual download.. ..though it shows a different rear wheel. Thanks, O.S. |
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Sorry can't help you with that one. I bring mine to the dealer to save the hassle. Good luck and maybe post your comments on the wheel removal for others to check out , I'm curious too.
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Appreciate all the insights here from you experts. Love hearing that folks are happy with their Liberty. I am contemplating a Liberty, would be my first scooter. Was originally thinking Vespa, but like the looks, and relative price of the Liberty, and the larger wheels have grown on me aesthetically, and practically from the sounds of it. Am I crazy for contemplating a 50cc or is the 150 the only way to go? Wouldn't need a motorcycle license in my state if its a 50, but would for the 150. (I'm ~180lbs if that matters).
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OldSchooot wrote: Any tips on rear wheel removal? I keep putting it off -,even though I have a set of Angels waiting in the closet. Will be pulling the wheels myself - since local big cycle/scooter (but not Vespa/Piaggio) dealer says they'd mount my tires but would rather not fool with removing the wheels. Any advice is appreciated. I do have the AF1-Racing Piaggio serv manual download.. ..though it shows a different rear wheel. Thanks, O.S. |
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maggiegirl wrote: First cry a lot... then get out the tools, and figure a way to lift up the rear once you got stuff off, like that shield over the muffler, then the muffler and you keep on going. Use a handy plastic container with a Lid for all those bolts/screws you remove. And it comes out at a downward but you need to tilt the darn top of wheel in some, bottom out but darn, it wants to catch... the fender is in the way... it's not going to move/remove and it's fitted to the air box, which son and I did remove and then figured out we did Not need to.... It's not easy for me or me and adult son... think a motorcycle lift that would hold that front tire and keep that bike stable but allow the back end to be lifted would have made the job far easier but you still have to pull it off the axle/spindle and that's the fight, it has to pull towards you and the front curve of the darn fender is in the way.. it's a fight... or was for us. You say that it is NOT necessary to remove that fender??!!....or maybe you're saying that the airfilter doesn't need to be removed. I agree! Anyone who could shoot a video of this process - showing simplified dealings with that fender!@?? ROBOT....jump right in here!! (Heat gun? Curl up that corner of the fender?) Not a hard job to remove the wheel....except for the fender! O.S. |
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Robot did such a nice review of the Liberty (called it the best value as I recall) he really should follow that up with some DIY repair videos of the Liberty.
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Retro Scoot wrote: Robot did such a nice review of the Liberty (called it the best value as I recall) he really should follow that up with some DIY repair videos of the Liberty. Apparently the amber turn signal does NOT cancel the bright white LED DRL in Europe in the same housing. I'll keep mine stock front and rear, thank you. Bigger brake light - and more visible turn signals with the pods on stock USA models. Anyway....maybe he'll get to the wheels and or brakes on the Liberty. O.S. |
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