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Hi will a 2005 vespa disc engine fit straight into a 1982 p200e frame not worried about ele start etc thx
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"...with major fabrication, modifications and throw your wallet at it!"
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If you want to keep the starter motor bolted to the '05 PX case, then you will need to trim some sheet metal near the VIN. If you decide to remove the starter motor, then the '05 engine will slip right into any year P with zero modifications.
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Are these frames different at all?
This is a P series, and an LML PX frame that you can still buy new. The engine area looks the same, except for a slightly raised area on the LML one. |
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Both are PX type. Top one has the newer lock / main switch. The raised part at the engine bay is for the electric starter...
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hjo wrote: Are these frames different at all? This is a P series, and an LML PX frame that you can still buy new. The engine area looks the same, except for a slightly raised area on the LML one. |
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Re: Engine swap
Ukrallies wrote: Hi will a 2005 vespa disc engine fit straight into a 1982 p200e frame not worried about ele start etc thx |
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whodatschrome wrote: What Safis said....both of those pics are PX/LML frames. Neither one is a P frame. |
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Notice the difference where the rear shock is. Both are mine. Top is my P and bottom is my T5 (the T5 has basically a PX frame with the extra tail section). So if I wanted an E-Start engine in my P, I would need to cut the frame...
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You can really see it there.
Wow. I had no idea the T5 frame looked like that. Piaggio didn't stamp a new frame, just an additional piece with a seam. Does it have the regular PX tail section underneath it? |
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Yes, it's exactly the same except it has two holes for a tool to reach the tail light bolts...
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The paint looks beautiful!
I had never seen a T5 up close. They were never imported to North America. |
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hjo wrote: The paint looks beautiful! I had never seen a T5 up close. They were never imported to North America. |
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I got to see one up close a couple of weeks back at the TDC Rallye event in Eugene Oregon. I forget the story on it. Crappy pic, but you get the gist...
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spielawieler wrote: "...with major fabrication, modifications and throw your wallet at it!" less than you think. He was kind enough to toss in a Vaderbuilt Malossi 210 top end that scares me! |
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ScooterRaton wrote: I put in an 05 PX200 crate motor I got from Vader. Put the rest of the parts in, took off the starter and put a plate over it, bolted it in, wired it up. Ran it 3,900 miles in 11 days in 2016. He was kind enough to toss in a Vaderbuilt Malossi 210 top end that scares me! |
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