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Slowly but surely. Got the center floor rails in. Only because they use screws. Got a pop rivet gun that isn't working at all. Won't pop the rivets into place. Tried putting screws in there and still won't help. So I guess I'll try and find a piece of metal to put in the channel to clamp down then I can peen the rivets that way. Sigh. May take me years to hammer them
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Sorry that pop rivet post is confusing. I put nuts around the rivets to get the rivet gun to sit flush but even that didn't help at all.
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GickSpeed wrote: FridayMatinee wrote: Sorry that pop rivet post is confusing. I put nuts around the rivets to get the rivet gun to sit flush but even that didn't help at all. |
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I suggest small socket flathead screws, lightly countersink the holes in the trim, nylok nuts on the bottom and trim off the screw flush with bottom of the nut when done. I know it's NOT stock, but looks OK and you can use acorn nuts w/Loctite on those at the front that show. Now you can remove and adjust, and arm strength is not required. I've done it this way a couple of times and it works fine if you are not a purist.
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Got the fork hub bearings in and the axle today. Anyone use that SIP 8-10" wheel conversion kit and know where that washer they send goes by chance?
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Edit: I know where that washer goes now. Under the castle nut. Duh!
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I'll loan you the proper rivet tool, so you can do it right. Its about the same effort to use as a pop-rivet tool, but will smash the solid rivets for a factory look. No hammer required! It holds the rivet secure on its own, so you can also use it with 2 hands, should you need the extra leverage.
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Question about salvageability of this seat frame. Is this worth saving or should I just scrap it?
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GeekLion coming up huge with the SIP rivet took borrow. Got the left side done tonight. Took about 2hrs. I think the second side will be a lot quicker than that now that I'm getting the hang of using it. Getting the rivet length just right to where it's long enough to peen but not too long to bend as you squeeze has been the hardest part.
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Hammering away. But not with a hammer! Floor rails done. That SIP tool is a godsend. If you believe in such things.
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Oh yeah also got the high beam indicator light all the way from India today. Eventually I'll track down an original one. Till then this will have to do.
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Looking good! I'm very glad the tool worked out and didn't get lost in the blizzard! Those rails look sharp. Thats a huge gem
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Question. Do I have to press the lower fork bearing in? The pic shows how much of a dry fit gap there is. Just wanna be sure before I try and press it down the rest of the way.
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Oh boy. Heated it up in the oven then went to install. Got the bearing half way on and realized I didn't put the seal on first. Luckily I didn't get the bearing all the way set. Apparently 10:30am is still too early for me to work.
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Stretch run now. Got the wiring harness in and the shift, clutch and throttle cables. The throttle is supposed to go in the grommet that the wiring harness goes through correct? It is TIGHT in there. Gonna try and hit the grommet with a hair dryer to soften it up and bit and see if I can't get it in there.
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Now that I think about it I'm assuming not all those wires go through the grommet. The rear light wires and the wires for the regulator don't right?
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Got em.
Was a pain in the bum but all the wires and cables are run. Oh also finally got that damned fuel tap out. Without the special tool no less. Just break the filter that's inside the tank off and use a socket with an extension to take it out with a ratchet or impact wrench. The outlet is completely sealed with old varnished gas. Good news though. Now I can clean the tank more and get a new tap and not need a new tank cause that tap wasn't coming out. A tap is cheaper than a tank and a tap after all. Need a seat and buddy seat, grips and a fuel tap and I'll be up and running. Forgot to take pics and I'm in bed already. Next I need to run the wire for the CHT. Once I get that in and I get the brake return spring for the front, I can install the fork and headset and engine. Much excited. To quote Mr. Gick " This will prove to be an extremely fast scooter; be careful and have fun." |
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Great news! Glad you got the fuel tap out ok. Those are fun. Chuck it in the bin and get a new fast flow tap - and take it apart, clean out any casting flash to maximize flow before using it.
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Ohh FM, I'm feeling the excitement building - almost there! And that engine is going to make that thing fly.
You know the drill - go easy, then a little more, then a little more. Next thing you know you and your machine will become one... |
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GeekLion wrote: Great news! Glad you got the fuel tap out ok. Those are fun. Chuck it in the bin and get a new fast flow tap - and take it apart, clean out any casting flash to maximize flow before using it. Motor looks nice! I think I saw Gick building that on his site and yeah he posted about it. Watching it lunge forward in his bench test video was pretty sweet to see! |
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Had to go back redo some cables. Went to dry fit the fork and it was getting hung up on the throttle which wasn't sitting right where they exit the tunnel and head up the fork channel. Got that sorted and realized I still had to run the wires for the damned speedometer. Whose bright idea was it to get a fancy new one? Oh yeah mine. Took 3 hrs but I got the TWO wires ran. Hope to not have to do that again for a long while. Also damn do those wire ends BARELY fit through the slot.
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FridayMatinee wrote: Had to go back redo some cables. Went to dry fit the fork and it was getting hung up on the throttle which wasn't sitting right where they exit the tunnel and head up the fork channel. Got that sorted and realized I still had to run the wires for the damned speedometer. Whose bright idea was it to get a fancy new one? Oh yeah mine. Took 3 hrs but I got the TWO wires ran. Hope to not have to do that again for a long while. Also damn do those wire ends BARELY fit through the slot. |
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getting closer! pulling those wires and cables through the barely big enough slot is always fun!
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