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Y'all a bunch of jerks.

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in other news... while hunting a gas leak with Mark today I noticed a flat spot on the rear rim.

Then ... I found a similar spot on the front rim? Weirdness. Like it hit a giant pothole or dropped off a ramp... or a flat landing of a sweet jump...
I deny ever landing a sweet jump.
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poidog wrote:
Got to start the New Years with a ride on a legend...
Jeff let me take the SS for a spin. WOW is all I can say.

Smooth and torquey. The rumors are all true and the reputation well earned.
Thanks for a great start to the New Year!
Y'all a bunch of jerks.

But also, it's a good thing we're not within striking distance. We'd all be trouble all the time!

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^^^^
Arrrgh



OK, all Napoleon Dynamite jokes aside... I am on the hunt for some Ulma 44 or 202 single trim.

(I may have a line on a left half of the Ulma 44 courtesy of the G-man.)

If your holding and selling a full set or even a right hand piece of 44 or know someone who may be, hit me up. Imma buyer.

PS - I know this is like asking for if anyone has an extra jar of pickled unicorn fart they can sell. But... you gotta put it out there.
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Quote:
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in other news... while hunting a gas leak with Mark today I noticed a flat spot on the rear rim.

Then ... I found a similar spot on the front rim? Weirdness. Like it hit a giant pothole or dropped off a ramp... or a flat landing of a sweet jump...
I deny ever landing a sweet jump.




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That's about how high off the ground I felt I was...a split second before denting the rear rim on the crash landing.



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Yowza
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looks more like you pulled in to the CVS parking space a little hot.
Just sayin.
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relax, alright. my dad's a television repair man. he's got the ultimate set of tools. we can fix it.
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relax, alright. my dad's a television repair man. he's got the ultimate set of tools. we can fix it.
People on 'ludes should not drive.
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I was riding on the road and completely forgot that i was on my P200. All i saw was a natural launch and a large gap. I only had a split second to go for it. Somehow my brain thought i was on my dirtbike? Both the scooter and i came up short. I ended up getting bucked over the front of the bars on the landing and i went skipping down the pavement road. Luckily that oncoming car in the other lane had good brakes so i didn't get run over. The resulting limp only lasted a couple days. The whole thing was funny as all get out though. Not sure why my head told me to go for it....then again there seems to be some sort of correlation between hitting my head and making poor decisions...or is it making poor decisions which cause my head to get hit? Anyhow i kept the rim as a memento and i get a good chuckle every time i look at it.
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I was riding on the road and completely forgot that i was on my P200. All i saw was a natural launch and a large gap. I only had a split second to go for it. Somehow my brain thought i was on my dirtbike? Both the scooter and i came up short. I ended up getting bucked over the front of the bars on the landing and i went skipping down the pavement road. Luckily that oncoming car in the other lane had good brakes so i didn't get run over. The resulting limp only lasted a couple days. The whole thing was funny as all get out though. Not sure why my head told me to go for it....then again there seems to be some sort of correlation between hitting my head and making poor decisions...or is it making poor decisions which cause my head to get hit? Anyhow i kept the rim as a memento and i get a good chuckle every time i look at it.
Lol. Maybe you should have chandler's avatar?
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whodatschrome wrote:
I was riding on the road and completely forgot that i was on my P200. All i saw was a natural launch and a large gap. I only had a split second to go for it. Somehow my brain thought i was on my dirtbike? Both the scooter and i came up short. I ended up getting bucked over the front of the bars on the landing and i went skipping down the pavement road. Luckily that oncoming car in the other lane had good brakes so i didn't get run over. The resulting limp only lasted a couple days. The whole thing was funny as all get out though. Not sure why my head told me to go for it....then again there seems to be some sort of correlation between hitting my head and making poor decisions...or is it making poor decisions which cause my head to get hit? Anyhow i kept the rim as a memento and i get a good chuckle every time i look at it.
Lol. Maybe you should have chandler's avatar?
Funny you should say that. One of my friends built a propane powered fire ring of doom at a rally that our club was hosting. There were quite a few riders who were VERY hesitant of entering the gymkhana one we fired it up. Helmets were pretty much required so that the riders with long hair wouldn't get set ablaze
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Piece O Cake. A little patience and some careful whacks with the gentle wrench and it'll be good as new!
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Not sure why my head told me to go for it....then again there seems to be some sort of correlation between hitting my head and making poor decisions...or is it making poor decisions which cause my head to get hit?
Sounds like the ole chicken or the egg conundrum...
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Still on the hunt for ulma 44 (right side) and/or a full set of 202 or 44.
Again... just putting it out there.

In the event I can't source I heard there is a new(er) repop of GS160 trim by Pascoli that is much much better than the old Cuppini chrome repops.
Anybody used it? Seen it? Thoughts?

Seat should arrive this week. Will fit and ride for a few days, and then start disassembly. More soon.
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Still on the hunt for ulma 44 (right side) and/or a full set of 202 or 44.
Again... just putting it out there.

In the event I can't source I heard there is a new(er) repop of GS160 trim by Pascoli that is much much better than the old Cuppini chrome repops.
Anybody used it? Seen it? Thoughts?

Seat should arrive this week. Will fit and ride for a few days, and then start disassembly. More soon.
what's on it right now?
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Looks like Cuppini or similar repop
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Check with Kristian at Bar Italia. I think he has some 044.
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Check with Kristian at Bar Italia. I think he has some 044.
sent him an email
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I pulled off the repop trim and have to say I am so stoked at how straight this thing is. Really, really good condition.

There was one small crack hiding underneath though. Which begs the question... braze? Drill a hole and brass braze at base of crack? Or weld?

(I don't weld so would have to find someone with da skillz... but that's doable)

Thoughts from the gallery? Appreciate your opinions all.



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[url] https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vespa-No-202-SS180-Legshield-Trim/363253847559?hash=item54939dd607:g:PGgAAOSwG3tf-0sr[/url]

Ouch, look at the price and bidding isn't even finished.
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Tue, 19 Jan 2021 06:59:45 +0000 quote
one vote for drill a hole and weld
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one vote for drill a hole and weld
Two votes
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Yeah... 202 is crazy sauce expensive as it is even more rare than 044.
Outta my league for sure. But... I may have found a right hand piece of 044!
It needs some help to try and and clean up, but combined with G-mans left hand piece I *may* be sorted. (Crosses fingers and toes.)

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2 votes for drill/weld/grind
0 Votes for drill/braze/grind
will keep the poll going for a bit...

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I'll throw my hat in the ring for drill and brass braze.

You can DIY, it'll flex without cracking and won't distort much due to heat. Easier to work body wise when you get to the clean up stage.

Unless there's more underlying work? Then it's off to the fab shop. Or you're buying tools and learning while you fix.

And I got you on the trims. Found a box that fits it. Just have to find a whole bunch of other junk to, like, pad it out. *evil laughter*
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nomadinsiam wrote:
Yeah... 202 is crazy sauce expensive as it is even more rare than 044.
Outta my league for sure. But... I may have found a right hand piece of 044!
It needs some help to try and and clean up, but combined with G-mans left hand piece I *may* be sorted. (Crosses fingers and toes.)

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2 votes for drill/weld/grind
0 Votes for drill/braze/grind
will keep the poll going for a bit...

Gratzi
I have 044 on mine. It's not as flash as the 202, but looks good and it's original.
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And I got you on the trims. Found a box that fits it. Just have to find a whole bunch of other junk to, like, pad it out. *evil laughter*
That's like THE best part of any Greasy package. The ephemera that accompanies the main is a wonderful look into the mind of a genius... or possible weekend sociopath.... I would recommend this experience to anyone who has the luxury/opportunity. It's nothing short of glorious.
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I have 044 on mine. It's not as flash as the 202, but looks good and it's original.
Yeah.. I am just fine with 44.

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A small window into my lizard brain.

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Because, beer.
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OK... back to the action jackson.

Cleaned up the crack to get a better look at what we are dealing with. I also found two guys that both tig weld on the regular.
Both are a bit concerned about heat warp... but not much we can do I suppose.

The other issue is that the crack appears to terminate at the cross brace. Begging the question should I drill through to the cross brace (not through just to the brace from the front) to stop the crack from spreading? Or, not drill and just the the tig mend the fissure and hope it holds?

(I am interested in third options too if you have a good one!)





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you will get less warp from tig or mig than you would from brazing it as the area you are heating will be smaller.

I'd work the shape to correct first, then have the pro weld it, then fix any warp...
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you will get less warp from tig or mig than you would from brazing it as the area you are heating will be smaller.

I'd work the shape to correct first, then have the pro weld it, then fix any warp...
^^^
Plan.

Found a welder that has 20+ years of experience with race cars, motos, and vintage restos and... AND... owned a few vintage Vespa back in the day. Fingers crossed.

In other news, a proper SS180 seat came in. Have to say, the lines of he scoot just flow with the correct seat on there. Expensive bit of kit, but worth the ducats.



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ohhhhh - sexy......
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Ohhh so very, very, nice!
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Damn - kinda remarkable how much a great fitting seat affects the look..
Très beau.
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Looks great, let's see a side shot
Wed, 27 Jan 2021 10:29:53 +0000

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Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:59:19 +0000
Posts: 12890
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: Fri, 21 Oct 2005 19:59:19 +0000
Posts: 12890
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Wed, 27 Jan 2021 10:29:53 +0000 quote
upon reflection...

(aka drinking a ~whole~ bunch)

*clears throat*

ANYWAY....

i'm gonna jump in with patricio de san francisco

strait buzz box mig it quick and dirty. just a few tacks and done. brazing it would take a big heat soak there and you have opportunity for warping on that mess coming and going. ask my lammy panels about that (rolls eyes HARD).

but a quick drill at the end, couple of hits with the metal putting together thing and then some clean up involving a soft wheel. call that, ummm... saturday afternoon?

-g
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Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:19:31 +0000

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VNB VSC o9c VMA vbc vmb VSX
Joined: Wed, 28 May 2008 17:31:07 +0000
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Location: Hustletown, TX
 
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Not So Moderator
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Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:19:31 +0000 quote
SoCalGuy wrote:
Looks great, let's see a side shot
Sure sure...



Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:23:35 +0000

Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
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Ossessionato
P208, Stella VMC Stelvio 187, Stella 150, VNX1T, V9A1T, V9B1T, 02 Sportster XLH1208
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Wed, 27 Jan 2021 16:23:35 +0000 quote
That scoot evokes "Itsaa meee... Mario!" when I look at it. I want pizza now.
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