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Ma ora si vogliono fare facili profitti a bassi costi, per non parlare di Fiat,Alfa Romeo e Lancia ( io compro solo Fiat) che hanno lo stesso problema.
Ma ero dell'impressione che Alfa Romeo e Lancia fossero sotto lo stesso cappello della Fiat..

Are they really that bad these days?
Alfa and Lancia are in the same Fiat group which is now joined to the Peugeot group under the new Stellantis brand; the commercial strategy has made Alfa Romeo a manufacturer of large displacement and power cars with few models.
Lancia currently only produces one luxury city car: Ypsilon.
Fiat has 500, Panda, Tipo, Doblò, Qubo, 500 L, 500 X and many commercial vehicles in its catalog.

PS: where are you from exactly?
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Yes that's the one.. No need to cut anything other than a ziptie if memory serve me well.. Take your time, and you will see how easy it is to remove. That will allow a slight marginal better airflow to the filter..
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Yes that's the one.. No need to cut anything other than a ziptie if memory serve me well.. Take your time, and you will see how easy it is to remove. That will allow a slight marginal better airflow to the filter..
Yep, I did cut the ziptie (that I then had to replace off course). I removed the outside to have a better look of how the two interlock with each other.
Like I said, is not much of an improvement per se. Just a slight better direct airflow to the air filter.. If you don't like it, you can always put it back on..

Thinking back now, you probably don't even need to remove the outside ziptie as the inner snorkel it just has a lip to hold it in place..

Ok I went to find the piece in the bin. Yes it is just a little lip holding it in place..
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Yep, I did cut the ziptie (that I then had to replace off course). I removed the outside to have a better look of how the two interlock with each other.
Thinking back now, you probably don't even need to remove the outside ziptie as the inner snorkel it just has a lip to hold it in place..
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Same lol
Filter in this pic is original after mechanic blew it clean.
Also for others looking at these pics, the lengthwise ridge on the pipe is only on one side which is why it looks different in the photos
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Same lol
Filter in this pic is original after mechanic blew it clean.
Also for others looking at these pics, the lengthwise ridge on the pipe is only on one side which is why it looks different in the photos
You didn't check the weight of the new filter before replacing it by any chance?

Not that really matter, because we are not talking about $250 air filters here, but still, it would be nice to know how much does that air filter has to work..

You also never mentioned the mileage of the filter in your first post..
I'm guessing closed to 10k?
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Same lol
Filter in this pic is original after mechanic blew it clean.
Also for others looking at these pics, the lengthwise ridge on the pipe is only on one side which is why it looks different in the photos
You didn't check the weight of the new filter before replacing it by any chance?

Not that really matter, because we are not talking about $250 air filters here, but still, it would be nice to know how much does that air filter has to work..

You also never mentioned the mileage of the filter in your first post..
I'm guessing closed to 10k?
Since i bought two new and haven't yet disposed of the old and can compare but don't possess any scales (just bathroom, no kitchen).

First pic on thread was 6800km / 14 months. Probably 300kms on gravel this summer, essentially none prior.
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Since i bought two new and haven't yet disposed of the old and can compare but don't possess any scales (just bathroom, no kitchen).

First pic on thread was 6800km / 14 months. Probably 300kms on gravel this summer, essentially none prior.
Yes, the bathroom scale won't work well. We are talking about grams here not kg..

6800 km only is not as I would expect to find a filter that black..

Perhaps this time, try to remove the excess oil from the air box by removing the nipple n.6 from time to time. I do it once a month and there is always a bit of oil coming out, not too much, but enough to possibly jump on the air filter and make a mess of it.. See if that helps..
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Yes, the bathroom scale won't work well. We are talking about grams here not kg..

Perhaps this time, try to remove the excess oil from the air box by removing the nipple n.6 from time to time. I do it once a month and there is always a bit of oil coming out, not too much, but enough to possibly jump on the air filter and make a mess of it.. See if that helps..
Bought some cheap scales, 2-3g difference. Would have been interesting to weight the original a few weeks ago

The nipple looks perfectly empty/clean from the outside (unlike on my old gts which would often have oil)
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Think i noticed a different / new sound when coming off the throttle as i drift up to the lights. Maybe hearing the change from removing the internal snorkel thing (feel i need a better name), hmm.
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Also, I think you had the right idea of making a pre-filter (paper,foam) and putting it at the entrance of the airfilter near the seat hinge. That would allow you for a much quicker and simpler maintenance instead of having to open the airbox all the times... I may do the same on mine.. Is not a bad idea at all.. Just nothing too thick to compromise the airflow..
here's the extra filter after 45km of gravel
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suspect the dust is coming up out of the engine bay via the hole in the first pic (was crazy dirty before I cleaned it before the pic). The engine bay gets crazy dirty

so did a mod ...
hole
hole
tape + door seal
tape + door seal
with snorkle
with snorkle
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I think you need an enduro motorcycle ... The poor scooter does what he can.
Sand and abrasive powders are deadly even for special vehicles designed for those uses but for a city vehicle they are bad think.
The only remedy is frequent maintenance but it becomes a very expensive and stressful side.
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I know no one else is really interested so I'm just leaving this here for reference ...

I found that the Vespa GTS 300 IE Super ABS E3 2017-2018 (APAC) also has this style of airbox.

fun note, this model also has the new style wheels and the new horncover (easyparts is incorrect about this)

how did I find this? I saw a 2018 Vespa GTS 300 Super Sport FL in Titanium Grey for sale and asked for the VIN and looked at the photos. the VIN starts with RP8M45710 and I can see the new wheels and this style of airbox and horncover

https://www.easyparts.com/explodedview/Genuine-parts-Vespa-GTS-300-IE-Super-ABS-E3-2017-2018-(APAC)-Air-filter-m30739-d223374
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Today i was replacing the air filter and cleaning the air box so i removed the snorkel while i was at it just to have a look.

Scroll back to the parts diagram above and check part 24. There was a 4mm hole in the bottom of it. I taped over it cause it's in a warm and dusty* area. Although maybe it's designed as a water trap. Hmm maybe i shouldn't have taped it? But there's no realistic way water could get in the top of the snorkel at the seat hinge ...

* I do explore a lot on dusty gravel roads so my engine bay does get very very dusty. I frequently clean it with a leaf blower after a ride in the country

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