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Table of Contents
1. Introduction (this post)]
2. How much floorboard rust is too much?
3. "You can't title that. It's stolen."
4. Tear it all down!
5. Painting is 90% Preparation. Maybe 95%.
6. Ain't no metal like Bare Metal
7. Finding the VIN after thieves' grinding the VIN
8. Let's paint. And that's why it's called Sweet Roll
9. Getting (floor) railed
10. Electrical Pt. 1: Everyone else's least favorite part
11. Detour down Hwy P200 Bonus: First Start Fail
12. Gas Tank, meet Electrolysis
13. Electrical II: This time we Finish it
14. Sweet Roll is Rollin'!
15. What the the heck...let's put a hot 177 motor in it
16. Tree 1, Scooter 0: Let the Hammer n' Dolly work begin
17. Turn Signals, Speedo's, and Springs! Oh, My!
18. Disaster Strikes and I Wind up in the ER
19. Nothing a little Hammering won't fix
20. Sanding & filling
21. Fixing the legshield edges
22. re-Prime & Paint Time
23. I found that lost washer...right in the crank case where I left it Crying or Very sad emoticon
24. Third Time's a Charm:
finally rolling again


I already started the thread for the 200 motor that I'm going to put in my GL, and yesterday I finally actually started working on...well...the scooter itself.

I've always just avoided body work in the past, so this will be an interesting learning experience, especially given that my only body work experience was refnishing my fiberglass boat.

This is a GL that Patrick (aka OopsClunkThud) hooked me up with back in 2018, right after I lucked into my Sprint, so it's been waiting patiently through the Sprint project, a boat restoration, the VBB rebuild that won't end, COVID, and a cross-country move. But now it's up.

I stripped down the frame yesterday and, because it wouldn't be a scooter project without weird problems to solve, I now need to figure out getting it titled given that I have *no* paperwork (the transport driver lost it when I had the scoot shipped from California) and, as I discovered yesterday, the VIN aggressively removed.

Also, when I pulled the cables, you could see rust indicating the high water mark where it sat with about two inches of water in there at some point.

Some non-trivial pitting on the floorboards, but based on what JVB did with his PX, I think I can fill it. This is where the metal filler comes into play, right?

I did a little research and as best I can tell from the Interwebs, Tennessee is not a bad state to live in if you're trying to do something like get a VIN and title for a vintage vehicle. There's a form I need to fill out and have notarized, I have to have the cops come look at it, say "Nope, you got no VIN all right," and then they can give me a report that attests to the fact that they don't think it's stolen.

And because it's over 30 years old, the process is simplified considerably. They seem pretty realistic here that old-ass barn find vehicles probably don't have a lot of paperwork to go with them.

The engine side cowl is gone and the clutch side is rotted all to hell, so I'll just order replacements for those. That simplifies things somewhat.

Assuming that the VIN/Title process goes reasonably well, next steps are:
- Continue tearing everything down
- Some Hammer & Dolly fun on the legshield (wish me luck!)
- Simple Green+metal junk to clean out the inside of the fuel tank
- Super-Remover to strip paint
- wire brush/stripper discs to get the rest of the rust off
- Ospho the tunnel
- Metal Filler (POR 15?) on the pitting in the floorboards

From there, it'll be filling and fairing, sanding, priming, filling & fairing, sanding, more sanding, more sanding, and finally some more sanding. Then paint and re-assembly time.

Also, I need to rebuild & paint the fork along with everything else to get this thing rolling again.
If you squint, I bet you can still make it out...
If you squint, I bet you can still make it out...
high water mark
high water mark
Before I began
Before I began
Non-trivial pitting.
Non-trivial pitting.
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Will they give you a state assigned VIN since you don't have one at all?
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Oh man, this is going to be fun. So much potential. Lots of GL goodness there. I'm rootin' for ya.

So what's the overall resto plan? Back to original or ...?
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With how thick the metal is on these, could a person use something like walnut shells and blast it ?
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Will they give you a state assigned VIN since you don't have one at all?
Yup. That's where the calling the cops comes into it. They apparently will come inspect the vehicle and, as best I can infer, decide if I stole it myself or just got it from someone who did. The fact that it's over 30 years old makes it a LOT easier, from what I can tell.
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Oh man, this is going to be fun. So much potential. Lots of GL goodness there. I'm rootin' for ya.

So what's the overall resto plan? Back to original or ...?
This is going to be a total restoMod. With the P200 motor, I'm going to do a gunmetal gray paint job (probably not metal flake, since I think that's beyond my skills) and blacked out trim, wheels, fork, etc.

As to the metal thickness, I think that it just needs to get ground out good, treated with Ospho, then metal filler and I can go on with my life.
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I just need to clear the air here...


Laying a "Texas spread" of bondo (or any other filler) over the floorboards to cover up rust damage is straight up bodge.
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I just need to clear the air here...


Laying a "Texas spread" of bondo (or any other filler) over the floorboards to cover up rust damage is straight up bodge.
That's a fair point, and I don't disagree. I don't like it, either, but I don't disagree.

Which leaves me with four options:
1) Kill the project. That may still happen if I can't get the VIN issue resolved, but I'm confident I can overcome that fact, so I'll leave that out of it.

2) Replace the floorboard. This is arguably the correct approach, but it's also the one that's not really an option for me. I don't have the tools or the expertise, and the cost of doing it would pretty much kill the project, too.

3) Clean out the rust and just roll with pitted floorboards. Normally, that'd be my approach, but since part of my goal here is to build a pretty bike, I wasn't going to go that route.

4) Fill in the pits and get on with my project. I have concerns about the filler cracking and flaking off, which would be even worse than pitting, which points me back to Option 3. So that's where it gets tricky.

What will I ultimately do? To quote Nils Bohr, "Prediction is hard, especially about the future."
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I'd use solder to fill the pitting...
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whodats is generally correct. There's a big difference between using filler to make cosmetic, non-structural repairs and slathering it on a half inch thick and expecting it to reinforce weakened metal.

If the pitting's minor, there's no reason you need to replace the floorboards. Cleaning out the rust and filling is a perfectly legit repair. But if the metal is wafer thin, or Swiss cheese-like, filler obviously isn't the answer.

First find out what you're dealing with. Let's see the underside.
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To me, it just looks like the pitting is kinda deep, so that's why i stated my thoughts.

Chandler, have to thought about acid dipping the frame instead? it will remove ALL of that rust...er....patina that's between all the pinch welds. Ospho won't be able to remove the rust in those areas. Plus, once you factor in all the material cost (and just a little bit of your time), dipping might come out pretty close to the same price as a DIY approach, and the final outcome will be superior! You can even have your fuel tank dipped at the same time. I'd probably just bolt the fuel tank into the fame of the scooter when you drop it off. That way the dipping company doesn't charge you for "additional" pieces.
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To me, it just looks like the pitting is kinda deep, so that's why i stated my thoughts.
And I appreciate it!

I'm kind've making this up as I go, other than lots of Internet research. Tracking down someone who can do acid dipping is proving to be a bit of a challenge. I've talked to most of the custom full restoration shops here in town and only one of them even sounded like they could do it, but I'm waiting for a call back from them for a more definitive answer.
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If you can't find an acid bathhouse, there are plenty of places that do media blasting. Find an outfit that uses a relatively non-abrasive material.
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yeah, media blasting is easy to find. Acid dipping would, as whodats noted, also get the tunnel and seam rust. I'm waiting to hear back from a place about an hour away from me on that.
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If you can't find an acid bathhouse, there are plenty of places that do media blasting. Find an outfit that uses a relatively non-abrasive material.
Try just google searching "bathhouse" you might get more hits...
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fiberglass on the floorboards?

would say sand blast the rust out and see what's left
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If there's any thought of saving & touching up the original paint, you might wanna power wire brush the floor, then use phosphoric acid on it to see what you have. Like the dip option, but DIY & just local on the floor. OK, I know you wanna paint it Crying or Very sad emoticon , but still....

Also, lets have a look at the bottom, please? That should tell a lot. I suspect my old Sprint was as bad or worse. Still has same floor, and as mentioned above, fiberglass was involved. Details: Vespa Dirt Bike Builds

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Can you check the thickness of the metal in the floorboards?
I used fiberglass on the floorboards of a small frame years ago and I didn't like how it turned out.
In retrospect, I wish I had done a light sanding, treated the rust and put on 8 coats of primer.
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To be clear, I only used fiberglass mat to reinforce the BOTTOM, but I used fiberglass filler on the top, NOT much less durable 'Bondo' filler anywhere any more! Stubborn emoticon

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Then use this stuff on top
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16 ga galvanized floor doubler is at least twice as thick as the floor I think. And a nice bonus, bike is noticeably stiffer than undamaged stock bikes.
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Yay, no welding required (but you could I suppose if you never wanted to get in there again...)
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I snuck out to the workshop and worked over the rust with a wire wheel and it poked through in two spots (circled below). The rest of it is solid, and one of those spots is over the cross beam, for better or worse.

The acid dip guy called me back and said he could do it. He's about an hour away, so now I just need to get the VIN sorted and I'm good-to-go.

Since he's a pro on this stuff, I'll get his opinion. If I need to get a patch welded in there, he can do it for me no problem, too.

This is going to do bad things to an already-blown budget, but I think that's the nature of these sorts of projects, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Nice. You're doing it right.

What's the pool on how many holes are going to show up after the acid bath? Put me down for >5.
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What's the pool on how many holes are going to show up after the acid bath? Put me down for >5.
I'll go with 4, but the ones for floor rails don't count
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[quote="SoCalGuy"]Nice. You're doing it right.

What's the pool on how many holes are going to show up after the acid bath? Put me down for >5.[/quote

I'm just putting a number out there, but I'm guessing 21 holes
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Your floor looks so much better than mine was. I would caution against an acid dip because it may force you into your option 2 above. Good wire brush will tell you how bad it really is. Then you can explore your options. With a few pits you can treat it and skim coat with filler, or try some aluminum solder with a propane torch.

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- Some Hammer & Dolly & Slap stick fun on the legshield (wish me luck!)

Fixed that for you.... check out Restolad for use of the slap stick. I made one and it's a godsend for the very amateur bodyworker.

https://youtu.be/TwA3PDmd1Ww

Plus some work on legshields

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A certain wideframe that just came back from the media blaster...
Few minor holes I will need to spot weld up.
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Ouch! Crying or Very sad emoticon
Looks somewhat familiar, but yours looks worse and Chandler's much better. What are your plans, weld in a new floor?

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There is an opportunity developing here. Any thoughts on "extreme patina" ?
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What's the Italian word for "pasta strainer"?
I'd look it up but I'm too busy feeling all the love! Razz emoticon

Of course, with all the pasta strainer floorboards in this thread already, we could start our own Italian restaurant.
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Ouch!
Looks somewhat familiar, but yours looks worse and Chandler's much better. What are your plans, weld in a new floor?
full plan TBD.
Hiding in my secret lair practicing my various skills as I decide.
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There is an opportunity developing here. Any thoughts on "extreme patina" ?
I love the look of silicone bronze brazed metal.
That gold next to the sheet metal just looks cool to my eye.
One of course would need to have sheet metal to start with - but enough of those pesky details.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWF0zCcXR5A&t=392s

Gas welding would probably be the way to go.
Least amount of heat in to your base metal.

Feels a little like I am showed up at CM1's weding (welding?) as a bridesmaid wearing a white dress (with a really big bow on the bottom). That bow hiding a lot of really big holes in my dress.

But I digress.

Good range of floor board repairs here.
Watching with interest to see how CM tackles.
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A certain wideframe that just came back from the media blaster...
Few minor holes I will need to spot weld up.
Show me the way!
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You cut out the center section and removed the cross braces leaving the floor boards outside the center tunnel? Does this cause the frame to twist and warp and require reinforced braces seat to fork tunnel to keep the frame straight while doing that?
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You cut out the center section and removed the cross braces leaving the floor boards outside the center tunnel? Does this cause the frame to twist and warp and require reinforced braces seat to fork tunnel to keep the frame straight while doing that?
Last post on this as I need to quit being lazy and post on my own thread.
My center was so far gone - any twisting would already have occurred.
I hacked it out the rest of the way so when they media blast - they could do the tunnel really nicely.

On my list of considerations - a structural access panel down the center - allowing full paint on the inner tunel and wiring access for the future.
🙂.

Back to the regularity scheduled programing here now.
Need for CM1 to figure out how to do filler work and keep posting so I get my nerve up to tackle some body work myself.
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I'm also soaking all this body work in. Some day I'll get the courage to do both body repair and paint. Great content from everyone on this thread lately.
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Couple of suggestions for wire wheels.
That may be the fastest manner for your floorboards.
I've also seen these - found them interesting.
not for any large jobs by all accounts - but looks like they can do the trick for small or hard to reach areas.
Amazon has a few other versions as well.
Anyone tried these?
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Edit - highest ranking one on Amazon - looks cooler also - so there's that
Edit - highest ranking one on Amazon - looks cooler also - so there's that
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