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So my wife and I have 2 Liberty 150s. I went to start them both up after they've been sitting a while and one fired right up, the other won't start. It doesn't even sound like it's trying to turn over at all.

It's not the battery, and it's not a fuse (I tested all of the fuses with a multimeter). It has gas.

I'm no mechanic but it does seem like this should be something I can troubleshoot and fix (with help from the forums!) It ran 100% fine before it sat, and it's been garaged the whole time. (And it's twin fired right up...)

Here's a link to a video so you can hear the sounds it is making when I try to start it. (I can't attach a video; they are too large for the forum.)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lD7Q1MG06Y5GlgE70j2lHv78BGj0XPOc/view?usp=sharing
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If I were to guess, it sounds like your starter relay is chattering and not able to fully engage your starter. I suggest you double check your battery connections are clean and tight. Double check your battery voltage.

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As above, your starter relay is acting as a buzzer because your battery is buggered. You say it's not the battery - have you had it load tested? I bet if it was left to self-discharge and wound up discharged (less than 12V) for more than a day or two then it will have suffered damage. Yes, it may appear to charge OK, but when asked to deliver a large current (relay now on) the volts drop below the hold-in voltage of the relay, which now goes off. The volts can now rise high enough to trigger the relay on again - yes, now it's a buzzer.

You can get the battery load-tested - but I can 99.99% assure you it needs replacement.
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"Kill" switch is in the run position, yes?
Very cold here in the midwest.....never heard my Liberty make that noise....but my guess would be the battery, also. Most EFI engines like a very healthy battery.
If you have a battery tender - hook it up for a few hours and then try. Pretty cold to be messing with much else -
if all it needs a little top-up with a battery tender.

Our Liberty's have a miserable little 6Ah battery - not much reserve in there after 3 or 4 midwestern winters! If battery tender doesn't bring the scooter to sounds like it's at least trying to start - might be time for a new one.

Let us fellow Liberty owners know what you find.
O.S.
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Switch your wife's battery in to your bike and see if it starts.
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fergy wrote:
Switch your wife's battery in to your bike and see if it starts.
Easy enough. I'll try that this weekend when I have time.

My semi-high-end battery charger went through its desulfating/etc process and thought the battery was fine but sure, not like it's hard to do a battery swap.

I'll report back!
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Anything to report after swapping batteries?

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OldSchooot wrote:
Anything to report after swapping batteries?

O.S.
Any update ??

O.S.
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