Three wheels only requires a Drivers License?
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Three wheels only requires a Drivers License?
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Double M wrote: That would be a big fat NO. |
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Yeah, just doesn't seem right. Have never ridden one, but even with greater stability there's a lot more to riding than driving a car.
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Piaggo MP3
I am not in the market for another scoot, but I think this one looks nice.
I wonder how it would compare to Attila's Yamaha? Bob Copeland Minnesota |
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fledermaus wrote: Yeah, just doesn't seem right. Have never ridden one, but even with greater stability there's a lot more to riding than driving a car. |
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jimc wrote: Double M wrote: That would be a big fat NO. But the other brands have done it too, however to be approved "tricycle" it must have a brake pedal (in addition to the lever brake). PS: LT is for Light Tricycle. PPS: yeah..."bollocks"... I like it, i put it in my little vocabulary of English slang. |
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Re: Piaggo MP3
Bob Copeland wrote: I am not in the market for another scoot, but I think this one looks nice. I wonder how it would compare to Attila's Yamaha? Bob Copeland Minnesota Yes, the steering geometry is the biggest difference; conceptually the driving style looks the same but it is not. I had the opportunity to drive almost all the three wheels (my dealer has all the brands) and the different arrangement of the return levers and also the way to operate them (Piaggio is mixed mechanical with hydraulic actuator, Yamaha mechanical with double hydraulic forks, Quadro totally hydraulic and you can tilt up to 45 ° then you don't fall ...). But the little Tricity has the priceless advantage of (relatively) lightness and small size. PS: Also for that Piaggio produces Vespa in two sizes. |
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jimc wrote: fledermaus wrote: Yeah, just doesn't seem right. Have never ridden one, but even with greater stability there's a lot more to riding than driving a car. |
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Re: Alternative to public transport? Piaggio MP3 Sport 300
kz1000ST wrote: Three wheels only requires a Drivers License? https://scooterlab.uk/looking-for-an-alternative-to-public-transport-piaggio-mp3-sport-300-feature/ |
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I want to add that the MP3 300 (weight 225 kg (496 lb) - 278 cc real 24 hp) is the same engine as the Vespa 300 HPE.
The road tests (done in Italian magazines) have found an actual maximum speed of 112 km / h (70 mph) or less ... This is because to compensate for the greater weight Piaggio has "shortened the ratios" of the transmission to have to more low speed and medium speeds. Consider that the 350 model reaches a top speed (tested) of 135 km / h (84 mph) but with 31 hp. All data taken from Italian magazines in the motorcycle / scooter sector. All good data if we consider that they are still scooters and high top speed is not a determining factor, they must be comfortable, consume little fuel and above all be reliable. The Tricity 155 is a predominantly city three-wheel scooter, in fact with its 160 kg, 105 km / h, 15 hp, 40 km with a liter of fuel and size equal to a small scooter, it remains unbeatable in the world of three wheels. |
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Attila wrote: Yes ... 16 years for motorbikes 125 cc with plates in my case and in my time. It's always wild to me how restrictive Europeans are with driving, considering what a right of passage driving is in the US. Then again, American towns tend to be more spacious (and harder to navigate without private transportation) than their European counterparts. |
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mayorofnow wrote: Attila wrote: Yes ... 16 years for motorbikes 125 cc with plates in my case and in my time. It's always wild to me how restrictive Europeans are with driving, considering what a right of passage driving is in the US. Then again, American towns tend to be more spacious (and harder to navigate without private transportation) than their European counterparts. |
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While looking up some age limitations, I came across this site:
https://www.justlanded.com/english/France/Articles/Travel-Leisure/Motorcycles-in-France Quote: Mopeds can be lethal in the wrong hands (most teenagers have as much road sense as hedgehogs and rabbits)... |
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jimc wrote: While looking up some age limitations, I came across this site: https://www.justlanded.com/english/France/Articles/Travel-Leisure/Motorcycles-in-France Quote: Mopeds can be lethal in the wrong hands (most teenagers have as much road sense as hedgehogs and rabbits)... Now it is like this but in 1976 in Italy to drive a two-wheeler up to 125 cc it was enough to take a theoretical exam of twelve quizzes. |
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Safety and Riding Two Wheeled Vehicles
The majority of individuals you speak to find two wheels to dangerous to ride. This is probably a good thing because I observe a significant number of car drivers that follow to close, speed, do not signal turns or lane changes and are weaving through traffic like they are playing a video game. I suspect these same unsafe drivers would get injured on two wheels.
To safely ride, I maintain you should be moderate. This requires experience and wisdom. Thus, age requirements and driving classes and tests. Maybe we are all crazy. To dangerous. I still can not resist the feeling of freedom and exhilaration. Chill out, be cool and ride safe. Bob Copeland ![]() Ride Safe
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Ecco il baffone! Ciao.
I have already written, they fined me 178 EUR and three points removed from the driving license because I was "running" at 62 km / h against the 50 km / h of the maximum limit and I was out of the city. |
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