A very "Special" project
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Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:07 pm linkquote
1- looking freekin' amazeballs.

2- I love the fact that you use your other lift like a work bench like I do. cracks me up!
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Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:56 am linkquote
Looks absolutely beautiful…
I like that you painted the horncast black…
Ive never been a fan of Orange…but Ive changed my mind 👍
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Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:09 am linkquote
You've set a high bar for Chandler.
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Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:24 am linkquote
Did you find a cement that actually sticks to this new plasticized rubber that is the floor mat ?
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Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:00 pm linkquote
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Did you find a cement that actually sticks to this new plasticized rubber that is the floor mat ?
I used a scour pad on the mat and leather glue. Applied the glue on both surfaces, let it dry and then glued them together…
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Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:28 pm linkquote
I really like what you did with the mudguard. It looks totally factory.
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Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:43 pm linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
I used a scour pad on the mat and leather glue. Applied the glue on both surfaces, let it dry and then glued them together…
Sounds like contact cement.
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Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:49 pm linkquote
Christopher_55934 wrote:
Sounds like contact cement.
Probably. It's the glue upholsterers use. We just call it like that here…
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Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:09 am linkquote
Christopher_55934 wrote:
You've set a high bar for Chandler.
I was thinking the exact same thing!

He's beating me to the finish line and looking damn good doing it.

Other than the horncast, that's the aesthetic I was originally going to go for, but will be sticking with OG Chrome and just murdering out the suspension.
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Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:17 am linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
I was thinking the exact same thing!

He's beating me to the finish line and looking damn good doing it.

Other than the horncast, that's the aesthetic I was originally going to go for, but will be sticking with OG Chrome and just murdering out the suspension.
Your only problem is you can't do both at once.
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Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:17 pm linkquote
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He's beating me to the finish line and looking damn good doing it.
Nah, mate. You're fine...
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Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:18 pm linkquote
Progress, although not as much as I would have wanted...



















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Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:38 pm linkquote
It just keeps getting better. Tight setup with the MC fitting + stainless hose routing
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Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:45 pm linkquote
Looks gorgeous.
Nice little grommet fitting for the braided stainless through headset.
As soon as I saw the pictures of the wires - I knew it was a SIP speedo...
Wish they would put low profile connectors on there and just color coordinate them.
No matter how hard I try to create a clean set of connections in my headset - it just ends up stuffed...

Are those home fabricated throttle and gear wheels?
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Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:47 pm linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
Looks gorgeous.
Nice little grommet fitting for the braided stainless through headset.
As soon as I saw the pictures of the wires - I knew it was a SIP speedo...
Wish they would put low profile connectors on there and just color coordinate them.
No matter how hard I try to create a clean set of connections in my headset - it just ends up stuffed...

Are those home fabricated throttle and gear wheels?
The hardest part of dealing with that speedo is trying to cram all the connections out of the way so (at least in a split VNA headset) you can clamp the headset closed. Such a PITA.
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Mon Mar 28, 2022 1:57 pm linkquote
This makes me glad I held off on picking up a SIP speedo now, as much as I want one. I have already gone from "this headset is absolutely CAVERNOUS" on my GL to "Who the hell thought this little tiny headset was a good idea?" with all the extra electronics I have jammed in there. I'm not sure *how* I'm going to make do with the teeny tiny VBB headset this time around.
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:21 pm linkquote
Getting there. Finished with the cables, CDI, kickstart and electrics inside the carb bay. The aluminum "rollers" Ned asked of in the previous pics were ditched and I found an original set to put in. They wouldn't align with the bracket that holds the cables, whatever I tried. Thanks goes to SIP for their shitty products...

Need to finish with the electrics inside the headset, shorten the speedo cable, bleed the front brake, install the carb, rear hub / wheel, exhaust and we're ready to fire up (hopefully till Saturday)...

Few pics...













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Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:24 pm linkquote
I start making solid progress on my VBB and suddenly you're all over the forward progress again, too. I see how this works...

It's a minor detail, but I love that blacked out kickstart lever. I may need to track down one of those for myself.

Beautiful looking work, as always. I'm looking forward to some video of it in action!
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:27 pm linkquote
CM - Given the you want black - you could probably look up a local powder coater - and get them to do it inexpensively.
Would be rugged, quick, and probably not much more then buying a new one that was blk.
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:41 pm linkquote
charlieman22 wrote:
CM - Given the you want black - you could probably look up a local powder coater - and get them to do it inexpensively.
Would be rugged, quick, and probably not much more then buying a new one that was blk.
I found a powder coater attached to a motorcycle shop last time I went to the welding supply store, so I know where to go. Just need to make sure I can still start it while they work.
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:55 pm linkquote
hahahahaha - good point
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:01 pm linkquote
chandlerman wrote:
I start making solid progress on my VBB and suddenly you're all over the forward progress again, too. I see how this works...
Haha...

Nah, you're doing fine work! We should blame John for his voodoo...

Still a lot to do, don't forget I will have to check the timing, jetting, etc. This "project" is always surprising me, so maybe we'll eventually finish together...
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:15 pm linkquote
I didn't do it, but if someone were going to throw voodoo your way, it would have been on those throttle and gear rollers. Spend good money for shiny parts and they just don't work....
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:34 pm linkquote
sdjohn wrote:
I didn't do it, but if someone were going to throw voodoo your way, it would have been on those throttle and gear rollers. Spend good money for shiny parts and they just don't work....
Haha...

The voodoo comment goes for Chandler's 13mm missing wrench...

Our "Special" build is a hole different story. Jinxed from the beginning. Twisted frame, broken engine cases, wrong clutch cover, shitty new shiny parts and the list goes on
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 2:53 pm linkquote
SaFiS wrote:
Haha...

The voodoo comment goes for Chandler's 13mm missing wrench...
You'll never guess who turned up about ten minutes ago...


Lazy git

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Sat Apr 09, 2022 12:22 pm linkquote
A bit more progress and one more setback. Exhaust doesn't line up with the mounting bracket and hits the frame from the inside. Manifold looks like it wasn't bent correctly or exhaust was welded wrong, so I now need to find a way to get one of them to the correct angle...
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Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:21 pm linkquote
Don't have any experience with it, and unfortunately doesn't help your cause, but I think I saw an interview with egig on him mentioning only the egig unisex is the only exhaust they produce where you don't need to modify the frame…

Too little room around the engine?
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Wed Apr 13, 2022 11:25 am linkquote
Tomorrow's GO day!!! Rear brake is done, oil's in. Finished with the electrics inside the headset, exhaust was "persuaded" into place, drilled, tapped and moved the stator's multiplug a bit to the left cause it was fouling the frame and made a new CDI bracket to mount the CDI near the shock, cause it was also fouling the frame at the top, using the PK's original CDI bracket. Of course, the stator's wires needed also to be lengthened and finally, I made a new choke cable cause the one that came with the CP24 came out short cause of the different manifold we're using...

So, to sum it up, a PK engine is NOT a direct fit to a V50 frame...



















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Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:10 pm linkquote
It's Alive!!!

https://youtu.be/qUeWkN21NJY

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Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:43 pm linkquote
Congratulations!

Sounds pretty spicy; can't wait to see the road test.
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 1:52 pm linkquote
Right on!!!! That is such a beautiful machine. Fantastic job.

I've got a question: The rims. Are those split tubeless or just tubeless? I'm liking them and trying to figure out what I want to get. Thanks!
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 2:20 pm linkquote
Thanks Gents!!
qascooter wrote:
I've got a question: The rims. Are those split tubeless or just tubeless? I'm liking them and trying to figure out what I want to get. Thanks!
SIP tubeless with the polished lip…

https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/rim-tubeless-20-sip_81068100
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:19 pm linkquote
Thanks! And it looks like premounted with Perilli's. I may do the same, and will probably paint the rims black, just cause...
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Thanks! And it looks like premounted with Perilli's. I may do the same, and will probably paint the rims black, just cause...
They have them in all black, too. No need to paint.
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:43 pm linkquote
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They have them in all black, too. No need to paint.
Also in 11" diameter.
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:03 pm linkquote
Oops, I meant paint my hubs black. I love.that look of black and the outer portion of the rim polished...
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Fri Apr 15, 2022 11:21 pm linkquote
Damn - it sounds throaty!
Gonna be a screamer.
Finally understand how the cable is supposed to interact with that little hook on the rear brake!
Thanks!
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Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:03 am linkquote
Great work all around. Sharp color choices, and nice details. First start Sounds great!
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Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:03 am linkquote
I'm in love. That thing sounds like a mini Harley!
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But officer! It's just a little 50 Special. It doesn't even go that fast!
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