Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:54 pm

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300 HPE
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Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:54 pm linkquote
Hi everyone,

I have a Piaggio 300 HPE and after topping the oil up and replacing the dipstick - the tip broke off and fell in...is this a major problem to ride with - obviously would be better to not be in there - but will I damage anything by riding or will the plastic tip have been caught by a filter guard/just sit in the tank or something and it be ok?

Any help and advice would be much appreciated!

Thanks all👍
Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:45 am

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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:45 am linkquote
chance theoil and see if it comes out if not remove flywheel cover and search for it
Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:51 am

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Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:51 am linkquote
Leave it. It is softer than everything else in there. Plastics are made from oil. If it gets hot enough and physically stressed enough it will revert to type.
Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:57 am

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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Wed Mar 03, 2021 3:57 am linkquote
nope your oilpump does have a plastic sprocked wheel connected to the crankshaft

i have seen broken dipsticks eat teeths of this oilpump it takes only 2 to teath to break off to stop the pump
Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:11 pm

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MP3 500, GTS 250 (both 2008 MY), 2012 Honda NC700 DCT, 2014 Can Am Spyder RT
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Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:11 pm linkquote
I'd swear there's a strainer that would stop it from getting sucked into the pump....
Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:26 am

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Gilera Fuoco 500ie
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Thu Mar 04, 2021 5:26 am linkquote
there is but the dip did fall in the otherside of the guard so it still able to get in to the sprocket
Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:42 am

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Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:42 am linkquote
Ok, thanks for all your help and advice guys. I'll take a look at doing an oil change and hopefully the bit will flush out!

Cheers👍
Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:13 am

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Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:13 am linkquote
Here's what I would do.

1) Drain the engine oil, remove the strainer element and leave the drain plug out to allow some light into the sump. Shine a bright light source into the drain hole if possible.

2) Use a endoscope from the fill hole to try to locate the broken off piece.

3) Once located, get a grabber tool (the skinny flex type with 3 prongs) and a helper. While helper holds the endoscope within your field of vision, you try to fish for the broken piece with the grabber tool.

This will be a bit frustrating, but you don't want FOD inside your engine. FOD (foreign object debris) is the #1 enemy for any mechanical device, whether it be a multi million dollar airplane engine, a lawnmower engine, or anything in between (like the MP3). Doesn't matter if the debris is made from plastic, metal, recycled chewing gun, or even air in certain cases.
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Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:58 pm

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2021 300 gts
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Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:58 pm linkquote
So I just did this. Seems to be stuck in the hole because I'm unable to screw the remaing dip stick into the threads. Were you able to rectify this? Any suggestions?
Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:03 pm

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The Hornet (GT200, aka Love Bug) and 'Dimples' - a GTS 300
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Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:03 pm linkquote
If you can't screw in the remaining bit, you probably jammed the end of the stick in between the transmission case and the entry hole of the oil sump cover. There's a gap there - and some people don't realise they can pour oil directly into the transmission case (and so all over the belt etc) rather easily. Rather a poor design - just an O-ring or similar would prevent this.
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