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Scooter prices are really accelerating.I've been contemplating parting with my VBB since I love riding my P200 so much. But then I was thinking, since it's a sunk cost and requires no cost/effort to store I'd be better off waiting.

Anybody else hanging onto something because it's only getting more valuable by day?
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My PX200 is like a Rolex... Can't be bought from an authorized dealer and gaining value on a daily basis...

But I didn't buy it as an investment, so just drive it and enjoy it...
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Or this...
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Or this...
It seems even pieces of shit are seeing ridiculous prices
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I think they are asking ridiculous prices. Whether the scoots are selling is another story. Prices on parts have certainly been climbing on any 2 wheeled transportation - scoots or motorcycles, so maybe that plays into it. I have rarely even gained on selling any of the ones I've personally owned. I'm much better off on working on them and getting paid for that. But the journey is taking something that was considered junk and making a rider out of it has pretty much been the reward.
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I will also add that the ones that keep there value and gain the most are the ones that do not stray too far from being kept in stock form. This goes for cars and motorcycles as well, of course. Older Honda original bikes are going thru the roof, with the other Japanese manufacturers trailing close behind. As far as investment goes, I think it is a maybe. Maybe you will gain by buying one at a good price and holding onto it for a number of years. Most people that paying the high prices are the ones that have an emotional attachment to a certain machine, say a 1969 Honda CB350. They had one in high school or college and would like to own one again. Even if it is just something for an occasional Sunday afternoon ride and/or be part of a group. But these bikes are a bit rare and usually not a deal to begin with, so making any money on them in the selling is up in the air.
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But the journey is taking something that was considered junk and making a rider out of it has pretty much been the reward.
This is what I like to do...Making a rider....
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P200 Motor
The cost of a P200 motor is even ridiculous these days. I bought my P200 for $900 and thought that was high (not recently). Motors alone going for upwards of $2500
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I will also add that the ones that keep there value and gain the most are the ones that do not stray too far from being kept in stock form. This goes for cars and motorcycles as well, of course. Older Honda original bikes are going thru the roof, with the other Japanese manufacturers trailing close behind. As far as investment goes, I think it is a maybe. Maybe you will gain by buying one at a good price and holding onto it for a number of years. Most people that paying the high prices are the ones that have an emotional attachment to a certain machine, say a 1969 Honda CB350. They had one in high school or college and would like to own one again. Even if it is just something for an occasional Sunday afternoon ride and/or be part of a group. But these bikes are a bit rare and usually not a deal to begin with, so making any money on them in the selling is up in the air.
I hear ya. My larger point was simply don't sell something you don't need to sell. In 1986, I passed on a 53 Telecaster for $1500 that is now worth six figures. I sold a 71 for $200 that is approaching $10k today.
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I hear ya. My larger point was simply don't sell something you don't need to sell. In 1986, I passed on a 53 Telecaster for $1500 that is now worth six figures. I sold a 71 for $200 that is approaching $10k today.
Ouch!! I have a couple of those in the bass guitar world. I don't have many regrets in my life but my '70's Ampeg V6B amp that I basically gave away is definitely on that list.

Back to Vespa prices... same thing is happening in Australia. Big big rises in the last few years. It's almost impossible to find a bargain now. I doubt the lml's are going to rise in price at the same rate but the 2 early ones I own I plan on keeping. Why not? I have the space and I've done a lot of tidying up on them.
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Just try to find a new LML motor anymore, they used to be all over, but are no longer made. I understand that Piaggio even bought up a big lot of them for spares? I'm feeling Super lucky that I got a nice Super last year with a fresh LML motor in it for less than you'd pay for just the motor now! That would be $1,440.06 at SIP currently Crying or Very sad emoticon and almost $400 for just bare LML crankcase set. And trying to find good stock P200 cases? That's no fun at all.
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Tierney wrote:
But the journey is taking something that was considered junk and making a rider out of it has pretty much been the reward.
This is what I like to do...Making a rider....
Me too, its been almost 4 years since the last time i able to buy a whole vespa, after that i am making vespa out off scrap and make it a rider, normally i buy for $100 now with that price i cannot even buy an engine, amd my wife is preventing me to sold any of the vespas as ahe know me best that i will be clueless after selling one and spend the next several years to track another one

Keep the vespa and ride it with smile and cheer guys
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And my wife is preventing me to sold any of the Vespas as She know me best that i will be clueless after selling one and spend the next several years to track another one
I'm glad your wife knows you so well. My wife does the same for me. She always reminds me of the one bike I sold, and now I'd love to have it back!
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koenig blues wrote:
And my wife is preventing me to sold any of the Vespas as She know me best that i will be clueless after selling one and spend the next several years to track another one
I'm glad your wife knows you so well. My wife does the same for me. She always reminds me of the one bike I sold, and now I'd love to have it back!
I know I'm lucky too this way. My wife has been overly generous with letting me take over almost any available work- and storage space. She indulges me in my addiction, which also serves as my therapy.
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