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Mon May 24, 2021 11:20 am linkquote
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Any ideas how I should attack this?
Get these sheet metal butt weld clamps online and a bunch of strong magnets to help you mock stuff up and set your pro welder up nicely.





Is that all weld , the gray under the surgery?

Mon May 24, 2021 11:56 am

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Mon May 24, 2021 11:56 am linkquote
Yep, all weld!

There is also a welded panel under the rear area of the tunnel
Mon May 24, 2021 12:07 pm

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Mon May 24, 2021 12:07 pm linkquote
Actually, the bend is metal plate then welds below
Wed May 26, 2021 12:36 pm

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Wed May 26, 2021 12:36 pm linkquote
I have a slight bump on the right side exactly forward of the cowling area- I need a pic to see if it is damage or i its normal.

Thanks in advance!

Dave
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Wed May 26, 2021 1:04 pm linkquote
If this is what you were after...



Wed May 26, 2021 5:10 pm

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Wed May 26, 2021 5:10 pm linkquote
Thats it- thank you!
Wed May 26, 2021 6:25 pm

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Wed May 26, 2021 6:25 pm linkquote
Some updates- Welder gave me marching orders, should be welding next weekend. Here are some pics- I am debating leaving the bottom of the tunnel sides and just shaping them instead of removing... Otherwise should be straightforward. Greasy has a tunnel for me so I *think* we are looking good for a June bodywork finish. (including assembly/fit and finish, then unassemble and paint)

Let me know if I need to pay attention to anything re the tunnel as I prep it for welding. would it be worth it to cut out the bottom and clean/grind the welds afterwards, or should I just leave them?

I plan on pouring rust prevention in the tunnel afterwards to prevent future rust potential as well. I plan on keeping this until my kids inherit it and sell it for a hovering craft.

OH- I DID wash it, before the welding I'll hit it again to clear out any dirt/grime left.





Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:31 pm

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Tue Jun 01, 2021 3:31 pm linkquote
ALL READY FOR WELDING!

Going to the welder tomorrow- I think I did an OK job on the cutting/fitting for my first time out, there are more gaps than I would have liked, but it will help with rigidity I suppose. The horncast (located in New Zealand NOS) should arrive in the next couple days, was released from Shipping jail today.

Once the tunnel is in, I can start working on the body work in earnest, the tail bottom is really giving me heartburn. Whats the best way to replace the trashed bottom?

I figure by mid- June I will be ready to paint her. Once it is painter, I wil just nee a few bits and bobs and I'll be able to ride, but I am still seeking a motor.... SOMEONE is holding and willing to part with one, where are youuuuuuuuuu?

Pics for update.





Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:51 pm

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Tue Jun 01, 2021 4:51 pm linkquote
Looks better alreacdy!


I may have a spare SS motor...

No carb though
Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:40 pm

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Tue Jun 01, 2021 5:40 pm linkquote
Hey Birdsnest!

Lets make a deal!

PM me and we can chat.
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:26 pm

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Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:26 pm linkquote
Mr Snyder ROCKIN-OUT on this SS! Great work so far! Patch panel looks good. Pro-welder guy can fill in the gaps. Its truly inspiring to see the passion and work you're putting in already. Keep it up!!

Also, I may still have you covered on some of the parts you need. Nothing solid yet, but deals pending... I'll hit you up in private
Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:17 pm

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Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:17 pm linkquote
Santa Claus delivered today, so I can get nearly ALL my welding done in one shot.



Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm

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Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:14 pm linkquote
Oh wow , didnít see the tunnel going down this path. If you were in my city I would weld that up for you lickety split, you did all the work getting the hump to fit for the welding. You know now that the hump is open it might now be a bad idea to fish something through from the steering top down through and out the back of the tunnel for later fishing.
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:49 am

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Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:49 am linkquote
Once itís all welded, fishing wires through ainít no big deal.

That lower horn cast has a nice distinct pressing, nothing like the reproduction sh#t offered from various big box scooter houses. The upper looks a bit suspect but acceptable, I guess.
Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:00 am

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Fri Jun 04, 2021 1:00 am linkquote
Iíve got a set of original Ulma trims for the front mudguard if youíre interested, not free though.
Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:23 pm

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Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:23 pm linkquote
The top left corner looks odd.
Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:58 pm

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Sat Jun 05, 2021 7:58 pm linkquote
Top left corner was not fully cut out so I compensated with the new piece. Also, shadow.
Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:03 am

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Sun Jun 06, 2021 1:03 am linkquote
Looking GOOD so far, now just a talented welder w/ good equipment! You've done your part with the best pieces you could patiently find and going deep to do it right.

In this pic, the word 'seam' means to weld it flush? Then the lower piece spot welded or tacked on top?



And what about these? I've never used them, but would try them if I was trying to do what you are. I HAVE seen them used on a TV car show and was impressed!

Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:01 am

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Sun Jun 06, 2021 6:01 am linkquote
Yes, seam welded side on the top piece and spot weld bottom.
Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:48 pm

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Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:48 pm linkquote
I am pretty, pretty, pretty happy.

There will need to be some slight tweaking to make it perfect-ish, but overall it came out very well I think.








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Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:30 pm linkquote
looks like a whole new frame! practically Nice work. Impressed for sure. Little buff, little grind and It'll be good to go
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Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:15 pm linkquote
Welder did a nice job, I think it could use a bit more grinding.
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:36 am linkquote
D, quite delighted that it worked out for you.

always hate to cut one up, but to give a substantial piece for your bike means the world to me.

also it was a pleasure to talk scooter and Jag BS for a hot minute! you're a mad man, get after it!!
Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:17 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:17 am linkquote
Wow. Really well done. Buy that welder a few rounds.
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:31 am linkquote
Fantastic. Youíre on your way now. Going to be a great project.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:57 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:57 am linkquote
Ok- now where can I get a cylinder, piston and head?

I am THIS CLOSE to having everything sourced, just a few things left.....

Also, and this is a big ask, does anyone have the HODDED rally indicator that goes on the top of the headset?
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:42 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:42 am linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
D, quite delighted that it worked out for you.

always hate to cut one up, but to give a substantial piece for your bike means the world to me.

also it was a pleasure to talk scooter and Jag BS for a hot minute! you're a mad man, get after it!!
Major Kudos to you G, for sacrificing the lamb to save the golden calf. I belive it to be a worthy sacrifice.

D, you are a Madman indeed! I've told ya many times, I knew I chose the right guy Love seeing the progress on this, instead of it collecting even more dust in the rafters for too many more years. You are THIS CLOSE
Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:13 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:13 am linkquote
Yep, this is just the scoot I needed.

Here are some updates after a few hours of grinding, sanding and a touch of primer.

Next is the fine tuning part.





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Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:15 am linkquote
Thanks Greasy!

Great meeting and talking shop- that part was perfect.

I was afraid I might not cut correctly and the width would be off in front or back, but it turned out ok...measure twice, cut once eh?
Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:50 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:50 am linkquote
Ok now I understand, welded left the grinding to you, you did a nice job.
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:11 pm linkquote
Somebody will be riding around on a factory fresh looking SS180 this summer, but it's been refreshed somehow and no longer original factory in a few places. Good thing we've seen all the pics, I have a feeling that otherwise we'd never know. You got paint lined up?
Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:54 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:54 pm linkquote
I've got a paint supply shop near me, I'll go with original white single stage. Anybody have the code for ppg?

I. Am. So. Stoked.
Need to keep my patience in check so I do good finish work...
Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:56 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:56 pm linkquote
Thanks Lymb!

Just a week or so and it should be tight and right!
Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:18 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:18 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
I've got a paint supply shop near me, I'll go with original white single stage. Anybody have the code for ppg?
I think its "White 715"
Single stage!
Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:27 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:27 pm linkquote
Just catching up on your adventures. I sold my '65 180SS last night (see link in classifieds for a page with 140-some high resolution photos if interested.)

I'm writing, because I have a folder of digital manuals, parts lists, specs, torques, photos, etc. I'm guessing that you have gathered a lot of the same, but if not, I'd be happy to zip them up and email them to you. If interested, drop me a PM with an email address.

Most of these came from the now deleted GS/SS specific Yahoo group archives.What a loss of knowledge that was!

Have fun with your build,
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:36 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:36 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Ok- now where can I get a cylinder, piston and head?

I am THIS CLOSE to having everything sourced, just a few things left.....

Also, and this is a big ask, does anyone have the HODDED rally indicator that goes on the top of the headset?
yo man... i'm still digging. i *KNOW* i've got one... just, like, i don't know where it is... gonna hit it again. i got your number so if you get a middle of the night text it's from me.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:41 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:41 pm linkquote
GeekLion wrote:
Major Kudos to you G, for sacrificing the lamb to save the golden calf. I belive it to be a worthy sacrifice.

D, you are a Madman indeed! I've told ya many times, I knew I chose the right guy Love seeing the progress on this, instead of it collecting even more dust in the rafters for too many more years. You are THIS CLOSE
it weren't no thing. bike had to go anyway. but that it pushes D toward his goal and the ass end goes to lee and the fork goes to... shit... who was it that wanted that for a hose reel? the headset is gonna make a lamp and that motor will go elsewhere and whatever bits might go for somebody's project.

kinda like cutting down an animal, use as much as you can and share the wealth in the community.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:43 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 4:43 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Thanks Greasy!

Great meeting and talking shop- that part was perfect.

I was afraid I might not cut correctly and the width would be off in front or back, but it turned out ok...measure twice, cut once eh?
dude, it was my pleasure. you need anything just holler.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:05 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:05 pm linkquote
Do I need a 180SS specific gear selector? Or can I use from other engines?
Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:09 am linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
... and cruise that shit till you collect all your parts.
-g
Wow!


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