Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:33 am

Ossessionato
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Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:33 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Ok- did the 68 with the round headlight have a tuna can or the other taillight?
Yes. It took me a year to find an original tuna can and 2 years to find original dust covers for my 68
Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:37 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 7:37 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Do I need a 180SS specific gear selector? Or can I use from other engines?
I think the box is pretty specific.... but there is a repop. YMMV

https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/selector-box-fa_87031000?q=selector%20boc
Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:36 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:36 am linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
I think the box is pretty specific.... but there is a repop. YMMV

https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/selector-box-fa_87031000?q=selector%20boc
Correct, the SS180 gear box is specific. The FA repop should be fine
Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:42 am

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 10:42 am linkquote
thanks!

Ordered.

Getting a package today- I'll post pics as well tonight.
Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:48 pm

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:48 pm linkquote
Don't forget the 180SS cover: https://www.sip-scootershop.com/en/product/selector-box-cover-pascoli_75151700
Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:47 pm

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Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:47 pm linkquote
Ok, Santa arrived with a UPS uniform and a package from Texas!!!

Inching towards a complete 180SS>>>>








Period CORRECT!

Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:18 am

Molto Verboso
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Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:18 am linkquote
Just a word on that repop cover. It does not fit very nicely. I bought one and then promptly removed it after I found an original one. Not worth the dime Iíd say.

Well, Iíve read more above. If youíre getting an FA Italia selector box, then that Pascoli cover should should be fine.
Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:03 am

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Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:03 am linkquote
woohoo!

Looking forward to your engine build. I think I saw elsewhere your sourced a 27/23! Well done that.
Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:24 am

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Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:24 am linkquote
Thanks again Birdsnest- I am a very happy camper!

That carb was a bitter pill to swallow, but I figured it would be better to have a solid carb so I would not have to troubleshoot for hours on an iffy one. Now to find a cylinder and head.....

What other models will work? Any? Rally? I'm really hoping to avoid putting the LML in there if I can, but If I have to wait for the final few parts to finish the motor, so be it...
Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:51 am

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Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:51 am linkquote
Bar Italia says they have a cylinder- anyone have a connection there? Phone says to go to website...I could just zip on up there and get it...
Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:10 am

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Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:10 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
What other models will work? Any? Rally? I'm really hoping to avoid putting the LML in there if I can, but If I have to wait for the final few parts to finish the motor, so be it...
No the SS180 is specific as it is piston ported. None of those others are.
Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:14 am

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Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:14 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Bar Italia says they have a cylinder- anyone have a connection there? Phone says to go to website...I could just zip on up there and get it...
They answer Facebook messages.

It seems they have it.
http://www.baritaliaclassics.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25_3_71_158&products_id=788
Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:17 am

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Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:17 am linkquote
May be this:
https://www.scooter-center.com/en/cylinder-sale-big-bore-192-ccm-vespa-ss180-gs160-63-8mm-3330150

Read the description as it is not a "bolt on" substitute.
Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:33 pm

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Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:33 pm linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
May be this:
https://www.scooter-center.com/en/cylinder-sale-big-bore-192-ccm-vespa-ss180-gs160-63-8mm-3330150

Read the description as it is not a "bolt on" substitute.
That description is sumpthin else.🤪
Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:14 pm

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Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:14 pm linkquote
First the big stuff, then working through the small dents/dings





Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:18 pm

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Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:18 pm linkquote
Looks pretty good , bit of a skim here and there, before you know it youíll be shooting paint.
Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:58 am

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Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:58 am linkquote
What is the correct front Piaggio badge for my scoot? (late 67-early 68 with round headlight and square badge)

A picture would be great, a person selling the actual badge would be better
Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:26 am

Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:26 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
What is the correct front Piaggio badge for my scoot? (late 67-early 68 with round headlight and square badge)

A picture would be great, a person selling the actual badge would be better
Itís a plastic rectangle with sky blue paint on the back of it. Some have a type of thin canvas glued to the back. This one is original, so I had to pay through the nose for it. The reproductions look very much the same and are cheap, but, well, not original.



Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:35 am

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Mon Jun 14, 2021 7:35 am linkquote
Looks same or similar to badge on GL. This oneís a repop.

Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:20 pm

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Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:20 pm linkquote
A little more work on the front, its getting closer. And what arrived today?

CARB. Brand spankin new.






For reference

Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:00 pm

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Mon Jun 14, 2021 3:00 pm linkquote
Man that carb is gorgeous!

Hens tooth right there
Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:50 pm

Molto Verboso
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Mon Jun 14, 2021 5:50 pm linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
CARB. Brand spankin new.
Holy sh$t! That must have cost a frigginí fortune. Itís not easy finding them in that kind of condition. It will run really nicely with that in it.
Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:47 pm

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Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:47 pm linkquote
Correct. One fortune. I figured it was worth it so I wouldn't have to spend 2 weeks troubleshooting carb issues lol. I have tons of fine tuning bodywork to do, I'll try and post progress pics. Still searching for the ever elusive indicator light with hood.... who wants money?
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:20 am

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:20 am linkquote
Do you mean the pilot light?

Isn't it similar to the Rally 180 pilot light? This could be a cheap place holder until you find an OG.

https://www.scooter-center.com/en/warning-light-vespa-vespa-rally180-vsd1t-vespa-rally200-vse1t-ts125-vnl3t-gtr125-vnl2t-sprint-veloce-red-9520113?number=9520113
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:28 am

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:28 am linkquote
Yes, pilot light- I have to look at it every time I ride lol
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:53 am

Molto Verboso
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Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:53 am linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
Do you mean the pilot light?

Isn't it similar to the Rally 180 pilot light? This could be a cheap place holder until you find an OG.

https://www.scooter-center.com/en/warning-light-vespa-vespa-rally180-vsd1t-vespa-rally200-vse1t-ts125-vnl3t-gtr125-vnl2t-sprint-veloce-red-9520113?number=9520113
ďThis often missing or broken part comes in green transparent plastic. Just the way it should be!Ē

Why is the one in their photo red?
Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:33 am

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 7:33 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Period CORRECT!
I found a place (after looking around a lot!) called Scooters Originali in the Seattle area that does vapor basting.

I'm sending them an engine. The results are pretty amazing.

https://scootersoriginali.com/products/vapor-honing-services
Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:05 am

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:05 am linkquote
I have a guy near me that does vapor blasting- Going to drop the engine off Friday ready Sat. Are you doing the inside and the outside, or just the outside?

Pics for progress:







Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:13 am

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 9:13 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
I have a guy near me that does vapor blasting- Going to drop the engine off Friday ready Sat. Are you doing the inside and the outside, or just the outside?

Pics for progress:
It looks beautiful!

I guess I'll do all the aluminum parts, so like the bag hook and pedal, engine cases and flywheel. They seem to just do all the surfaces, but have to remove all the bearings and case studs. They quoted around $250 for those.

They recommended replacing the bearings because debris gets inside them.
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:10 am

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:10 am linkquote
Looking good!!
Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:22 pm

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:22 pm linkquote
You are a Beast! Nice work. It already looks like a whole different machine.

For the Pilot light, the repop version posted above is for a euro rally type headset, and is much larger in person than it appears in the photo. The threaded portion is a larger diameter than the SS headset version you seek. Keep searching for the correct piece, you'll be successful
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:21 pm

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:21 pm linkquote
Hoping someone is holding and likes the idea of money.

Here are some shots from today- working on the bottom.





Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:30 pm

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:30 pm linkquote
Kristian at Bar Italia almost certainly has one.

http://www.baritaliaclassics.com/catalog/contact_us.php
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:47 pm

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:47 pm linkquote
I am in communication with him, but he hasnt replied on my other request (cylinder, head etc.) if he has a light I would be stoked.
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:56 pm

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:56 pm linkquote
GeekLion wrote:
For the Pilot light, the repop version posted above is for a euro rally type headset, and is much larger in person than it appears in the photo. The threaded portion is a larger diameter than the SS headset version you seek. Keep searching for the correct piece, you'll be successful
Good call. Thanks for the correction. I knew the euro v US headsets were different... didnít know the pilot light size was also bigger!
Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:58 pm

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 5:58 pm linkquote
Mudguard and airbox arrived!!!! One step closer.. thanks Birdsnest!
Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:01 pm

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Tue Jun 15, 2021 6:01 pm linkquote
Right on!
Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:18 am

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Wed Jun 16, 2021 10:18 am linkquote
Whats the best technique for repairing the rear bottom below the license plate? Like, how did any of you do it?

I am likely going to make 2 pieces and have my welder weld them in, but not sure how to make the "shelf" look right along with the curve.

I have ZERO idea how to make the corners look correct.
Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:54 am

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Thu Jun 17, 2021 6:54 am linkquote
Oof. I guess everyone just slathers Bondo on and calls it a day?


Powder coated hubs and wheels are ready Pics later.

May take a break from bodywork to start working on the mechanicals now.

Need a set of gears and spacers. I feel like Bar Italia has everything else I need, just need to figure out when to head up there/connect over the phone. This shipping stuff from Italy, UK and Germany is killing my patience....
Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:01 am

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Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:01 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Oof. I guess everyone just slathers Bondo on and calls it a day?


Powder coated hubs and wheels are ready Pics later.

May take a break from bodywork to start working on the mechanicals now.

Need a set of gears and spacers. I feel like Bar Italia has everything else I need, just need to figure out when to head up there/connect over the phone. This shipping stuff from Italy, UK and Germany is killing my patience....
Post a pic of the tail area you are trying to repair. You might get some better ideas.

Gears... I *may* have. I seem to remember a random set in one of my SS boxes. No promises, but they very well may be the droids you are looking for.
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