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What is the break in period on any Vespa? I was told there is no break in but dealer says 50 miles
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You will hear many opinions from zero to 2,000 miles or more. My personal opinion is that the initial service at 600 miles is there for a reason. An equally pertinent question is how do you treat the scooter during that "break-in" period. Again, there are many different answers. Mine is to avoid hard acceleration, and sustained high speeds for the first 600 miles. I make a point of varying the speed of the scooter during that period, with no sustained riding at any single speed. I have broken in 4 new Vespas this way. It seems to have worked.
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You should have this paragraph in your owner's manual:

DURING THE FIRST 1000 KM DO NOT RIDE THE VEHICLE OVER 80% OF ITS MAXIMUM SPEED. AVOID TWISTING THE THROTTLE GRIP FULLY OR KEEPING A CONSTANT SPEED ALONG LONG SECTIONS OF ROAD. AFTER THE FIRST 1000 KM, GRADUALLY INCREASE SPEED UNTIL REACHING THE MAXIMUM PERFORMANCE.
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Thanks I just found it in owners manual
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Advice varies... The manual says 600 miles (or 1000 km) for the first service on a GTS 300. A recent poster said they change their oil at 100 miles and then again at 600 miles. I think it would be wise to judge how long your break-in period will take and figure it out from there. For some, putting 600 miles on a Vespa could take over a year... If the break-in period is going to take much more than a year, I wouldn't recommend waiting to change the engine oil until 600 miles.... Do it before then and then again at 600 miles.

I'm "breaking in" a 2018 that basically sat for 3+ years in a shed with 3 miles on it. The previous owner never changed any of the fluids - he had not reached the break-in 600 miles. Before I started the "break in" anew, I changed the engine oil and the hub oil, as both were over 3 years old. I also changed the brake fluid and coolant which were both of the same 3 year-old vintage (the coolant was orange and vile and definitely needed it). Now, I'm trying to go a little easy and vary the throttle as much as possible without pissing off drivers behind me. I just hit 110 miles today, so around another 500 boring, easy driving miles to go!

Advice: Use 600 miles and/or 12ish months (whatever comes first) as the time for first engine oil change.
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Thanks for the information .I think I will change the oil at 300 miles and go from there. It has 50 miles on it so far bought it in January but weather has been to bad to ride Thanks
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Follow the manual on how to break in the engine, and on when to service the bike. My advice is NOT to change the oil earlier than 600 miles (ie: 100 or 200 miles). It does no good whatsoever to do that. That is unless for some reason you go over a year or so before completing 600 miles. However, bear in mind the first service should be carried out at 600 miles or within 6 months of purchase.

Just to clarify, the factory fill oil should be left in the engine until first service because it will start to break down much earlier than normal during the run in period. This is good and is due to the extra heat and friction in the engine which tends to 'mash' the additives sooner than is normal. This is actually what you want during the running in period. It allows the much needed miniscule metal to metal contact between components inside the engine, allowing components to bed-in much more easily. Changing out the oil early doesn't give the oil any real chance to break down thus making it harder to bed in the engine components. And yes this is all well established in the motor engineering trade at the level I designed and tested at.

I would add that if you have changed your oil early, it won't cause your motor to suddenly explode, but it's just not the best practice. Although, the difference it makes is small, it can be measured in most engines (excluding Nikasil bores) through engine blueprinting. Just saying!
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Ok thanks l will not change until 600 miles or what ever owners manual says
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Good advice here and it's a pretty easy process. Just don't go WOT and try to vary the speed/throttle until the first service. The longer more complicated discussion is when does a motor truly open up and "break in"?

Some take the "ride it like you stole it" approach to break in but that is a more complicated and controversial method.
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Thanks for all the help
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