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I'm really torn between the Super Cub and the 150 Liberty S. I live in a very urban environment and am looking for something to supplement my royal enfield. I want something to buzz around the city and to work. I'm torn between the looks and the feel of the Honda but the practicality of the Liberty. On occasion I have my wife and my daughter on the back of my bike so not sure if I need a two seater. I'll also be bringing whatever I purchase to a summer town in Michigan.


Anyone have thoughts before I make the final decision? I've aways liked the primavera but the price point has me questioning going that route.

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Both quality manufacturers and bot the perfect displacement in my opinion. There is someone in my area who just purchased a Super Cub and they tried to run up on my Liberty. Yeah, right! See ya! The rider tried it another day and got the same results. Someone did a review/comparison of the Super Cub against the Honda ADV-150. Of course the ADV won. But speed aside, I love the ease of my Liberty. I have to have a flat floor for hauling stuff and I hate shifting gears. Finally, I don't like many retro bikes. But you can't really go wrong no matter what you purchase. Follow your butt and heart.
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For now, Im leaning towards the Liberty.

Its a 150cc, its got a longer wheelbase, 2 person seat, storage space with the option of a rear box, color choices (in case you dont want red), its cheaper and depending on how large of a person you are, may be more ergonomically pleasant for you.

The Honda I'd lean more towards if you were 5'8 or shorter, didnt need storage, dont have passengers, wanted something smaller to lift/ maneuver/ take on the RV.

Let us know what you decide on!
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These are helpful responses. Much appreciated. One thing I forgot to mention, is that live in a hilly city. Probably makes sense to go with the Liberty.
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I have both a Cub 125 and Primavera 150. I love them both differently. The Cub is a motorcycle, period. It has no storage. I bought a rear rack but put a pillion on it. It is fine for two up riding and just plain fun. The clutchless shifting is fine but you will find it is geared close and you shift a lot. The big diameter wheels take the big bumps better than most scooters. It takes almost zero maintenance and just runs.

The Primavera is a much more passive ride with the CVT so you can just sit back and enjoy the ride. It is a much better hauler. Also great for two up and the spring preload helps. On most roads, it is a smoother ride than the Honda.

To me it is like having a son and a daughter. You love them both but just a little differently.

Hope you find the one that's best for you.

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I had an underbone 50cc China bike with a Cub clone motor. It was an absolute hoot to ride. The issue here is that a scooter is a scooter and a Cub of any displacement is a motorcycle. What you get with either are the advantages or disadvantages that they come with. It's why I have both in the garage.
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sc00ter,

Your in Norfolk Lived in Portsmouth many years.
In North Carolina now.

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The Liberty is a conventional CVT scooter. The Cub has a manual shift with centrifugal clutch. There is a choice to be made there. For anyone without experience with one or both of these systems - try before you buy.
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I rode my buddy's cub, fun ride, nice instruments, having to shift was different but fine. No storage though which to me affects the utility. I mean, where do you put the 6-pack from your local shart mart? mic drop.
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Is the CT-125 available there?

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But if using the bike to commute then that has to be considered. Keeping nice shoes and trousers from the elements may be important.
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Well, I think I've made a decision. It's a curve ball but after listening to everyone I was just quoted 6250 out the door for a primavera sport. Is that a good deal? If so I'm going to pull the trigger.
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Well, I think I've made a decision. It's a curve ball but after listening to everyone I was just quoted 6250 out the door for a primavera sport. Is that a good deal? If so I'm going to pull the trigger.
Hmmm, what did anyone say in this discussion that lead you to decide for the Primavera versus the Liberty or the Cub. Nothing wrong with the Primavera mind you, just curious. As far as price, that isn't an exceptionally good deal but we are right at the start of the riding season, and most of the dealer add-ons, taxes, and registration aren't negotiable in any event. Ride it this summer, and enjoy. That is what scooters are for!
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It came down to I wanted the vintage look with the easy of the Liberty. Kinda just landed on it.
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412rider wrote:
Well, I think I've made a decision. It's a curve ball but after listening to everyone I was just quoted 6250 out the door for a primavera sport. Is that a good deal? If so I'm going to pull the trigger.
Can't speak to the deal but the Primavera is a great choice. You will have a blast. Congrats.

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It came down to I wanted the vintage look with the easy of t
Hey 412,

Don't know where in PA you are but I'm in southwestern Pennsylvania, Somerset County. Last year I bought a new Primavera from the dealer in Accident Maryland, about 40 miles away, and they were great to deal with. I wanted a red one so they special ordered it for me and charged msrp + $100.00. No freight/set up or anything else. They gave me a notarized certificate of origin that I took to a PA notary and paid Pennsylvania registration and sales tax.

Interesting choice you're making because one of my other bikes I've been using the last couple of years is a 1981 Honda C70 Passport (super cub)that I've owned for decades. It's fun to ride too and better in my opinion for exploring dirt roads but having put a few thousand miles on the Vespa, I'd pick that in a heartbeat.

You're going to love the Vespa.
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I really like my Liberty, but bought it a better quality gas cap. And I really want to put a USB port on it...
I love my Vespa LXV150IE, despite the fact that I have beat it up some...
And I would attack anyone who tried to mess with my vintage P125x.....
That doesn't mean that Honda doesn't make good rides, or cars, but since that darn right foot can't do that right foot brake thing a shifty motorcycle is a no go here and that brake peddle on the floorboard is not the same as a lever my foot can't turn in enough to use...
But if you buy any new rides you have to post photos here...
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maggiegirl wrote:
I love my Vespa LXV150IE,
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