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My gt200 is currently running Avon viper strykes
Which I hate
What do we recommend now as sure I had either Dunlop or michilans on last time
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I've been very happy with the City Grip series by Michelin.

I haven't tried anything else, because CG seems to last much longer while also having fantastic grip, wet and dry.
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Re: What tyres do we recommend now
andyscooter wrote:
My gt200 is currently running Avon viper strykes
Which I hate
Absolutely the worst tyre I've ever used.
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What do we recommend now as sure I had either Dunlop or michilans on last time
City Grip 2 or Pirelli Angel seem to be the current favourites. I've been very happy with the CGs, excellent wear in the centre, great grip on the sides. No comment on wet use - it doesn't rain that much here.
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Re: What tyres do we recommend now
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City Grip 2 or Pirelli Angel seem to be the current favourites. I've been very happy with the CGs, excellent wear in the centre, great grip on the sides. No comment on wet use - it doesn't rain that much here.
I have two scooters one with each of these tires. They seem great at LX50 and LX78 speeds, I don't ride in the rain either. The Pirelli tire looks better to my eye if that is a thing for you.
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I've been very happy with the City Grip series by Michelin.

I haven't tried anything else, because CG seems to last much longer while also having fantastic grip, wet and dry.
I had three series on the latest scooters (except the Tricity which is new), very good in terms of performance and price.
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CityGrip. Don't know about CityGrip 2. They got good reviews.
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CGs have served me well on 2 GTS over the years.
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Michelin city grip by far. In my experience they have been the longest lasting tyres on my scooters. I also have Michelin tyres (not city grip) on my motorbike. Same. I wouldn't buy anything else.
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The (not-so) Old 1-2
While Melody was "in rehab" in February, it was advised that the rear tire be changed. (Yeah, that's me in the saddle these days...) When I picked her up from the shop after several weeks, among all the other changes, one of the techs said, offhandedly, "We threw a CG2 in back."

I've already put about 300 miles on the tire, and so far it's just fine, wet or dry, smooth and stupid-rough pavement, and at maximum-velocity on Mel (roughly 80-82mph). For me, Michelins are always a safe bet.
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I've got nearly 11k miles with CG2 on the back (came with the original CG).

No complaints from me. CG2 is theoretically even better in wet roads.
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Heidenau tires are one of the best out there. Most of the cheap name brand tires are made in Asia, with compounds that are ideally suited for the riding conditions there. Heidenau tires are made in Germany, where the riding can be wet and fast. The K58 is a good tire if you ride in rain or loose conditions quite a bit, the K61 has been a favorite all around tire for years, and the new K80 Suipermoto tire is a whole lot of fun if corners are your thing. I haven't put the K80 on my personal bike yet, but people who have say it's phenomenal.
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Honest question: I scrape the crash bars before noticing any changes in tire performance. How would a K80 SR corner differently than a CG2?
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I'm enjoying my Pirelli Diablo Rosso

Done 5000km on them and still going well
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I'll second the Heidenau K61. I only settle for the city grips if the K61 is out of stock.
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Another happy Michelin customer here...

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Tyres threads, like oils threads, are useless... Laughing emoticon
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Heidenau tires are one of the best out there. Most of the cheap name brand tires are made in Asia, with compounds that are ideally suited for the riding conditions there. Heidenau tires are made in Germany, where the riding can be wet and fast. The K58 is a good tire if you ride in rain or loose conditions quite a bit, the K61 has been a favorite all around tire for years, and the new K80 Suipermoto tire is a whole lot of fun if corners are your thing. I haven't put the K80 on my personal bike yet, but people who have say it's phenomenal.
I am glad to see this endorsement for these tires. I had never heard of them until I got a scooter and was looking for tires. I thought it was some bogus cheap tire based on the name! LOL I like the look of that K61, might have to give it a try next time! Thanks
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for the cannonball?
So, what tires would you use for something like the Cannonball Run? 4500 miles in 10 days.

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Not the Pirellis - the rear would need changing before the end. I would expect the CG2s to just about last the course.
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Thanks all
Guessing I'm back to city grips
Works well for me then as know them
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if I see another endorsement for city grips I am going to throw up. seriously its not that good of a tire. sure it DOES last long. because the tread compound is like plastic. just made another scooter purchase that has a brand new cg on the front. I will be replacing it with something that actually sticks to the pavement in corners.

most pirellis are very good tires. the sl26 however is the worst tire to date. absolutely horrendous tire.

just because a tire has a famous name on its sidewall does not make it a great tire.

I would try any tire on the market before using the entry level tires mentioned above.

only thing worse than a slippery tire on a two wheeler is having to endure it for long time before getting to replace it.

but alas. carry on. its a michelin. it MUST be good.
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Pirellis are good but more like tires for dry road and summer time, CGs and other tires can get tough if you do a few miles every year. Anyway, even tires are like oil and have an expiration date.
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Have always had City Grips on mine. I have just put a new City Grip 2 on the rear. Didn't go for the standard 62P because it was out of stock, so went for the 62S. For the uninitiated that means it has a higher speed rating and although the extra speed rating is not required, it is a tougher built tyre and will stand the sort of riding I do. I wore my last CG1 rear tyre out in 8k miles. I'm told the CG2 should go further by some way. We'll see.

So far the handling and the grip in wet and dry is superb even though I have a CG1 on the front and now the CG2 on the rear. Michelin say you can mix them with no adverse effects. I'd agree.

I think that so many people like the City Grips that it speaks volumes about how good they are. And over here the price is good. Are they the best ROAD TYRE for our scooters? It's hard to tell as so many other factors come into play when deciding what's good such as rider ability, rider weight, type of bike the tyres are fitted to, how good the suspension is on said bike etc etc. Some folks will say Pilots are great, some like Motovista will say something else. One particular tyre is great for one person but someone else will say it's the worst tyre on their bike they've ever had. The truth is somewhere in-between in my experience. So I guess we're all right I think. But in all honesty, in the 52 years I've been riding, these days tyres for the road only offer very slight variances on their performance, so much so it's hard to tell the difference even for experienced hardened riders like myself.
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Six months ago I bought four winter / summer tires for my car, 215 -55 R 17 ".
Originally fitted with Continental (made in Germany) but they were hard and in the wet it felt like surfing, changing them cost EUR 170 each.
As a replacement I have chosen to mount Kleber Quadraxxer (made in Romania) for 120 EUR each; the Kleber brand is owned by Michelin.
The equivalent but Michelin-branded tire is priced at a whopping 50 EUR (170 EUR total) but, drawing apart, the two tires are excellent for all seasons.
I make this automotive comparison only to say that for example Pirelli has also owned the Metzeler brand since 1986, focused solely on the development of tires for motorcycles and scooters.
You who buy Pirelli must also try Metzeler.
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I have converted from City Grips to Pirelli Angel Scooter tires on my GTS, BV350 and Xmax. Costs less, better (or at least more predictable) traction - especially in the wet, and 90% + of the CG lifespan.

The CG ran 9000 miles on the back of my BV, the Angel is measuring to last 8000 +.
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Re: What tyres do we recommend now
jimc wrote:
andyscooter wrote:
My gt200 is currently running Avon viper strykes
Which I hate
Absolutely the worst tyre I've ever used.
Worse than Savas?
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Re: What tyres do we recommend now
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jimc wrote:
andyscooter wrote:
My gt200 is currently running Avon viper strykes
Which I hate
Absolutely the worst tyre I've ever used.
Worse than Savas?
Indeed, even here in Italy Sava tires do not enjoy a good name, they are considered cheap.
Avons are mainly used on historic vehicles but are also considered to be of poor quality.
I had the Savas on my Aprilia Scarabeo 400 that I had about ten years ago and they weren't that great, on the Honda Four 500 that I restored in 2005 I had a striped Avon on the front but I took it off almost immediately because it had poor grip.
You must know that in Italy the rules of the highway code provide for vintage vehicles that the measures are identical (and printed on the tire) to those in use at the time of first registration and only a few brands manufacture with vintage measures.
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The Avon Viper Strykes that I had on my X9250 in the UK cupped so badly front and back in the first 1500 miles that they became unsafe when cornering and uncomfortable going straight. That said, for the first 500 miles they had excellent grip - so perhaps they'd be good for just one track day.
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How are the Pirellis and Heidenaus for mileage? I'm disappointed that I only got 4000 miles out of my last CG2, so I'm considering alternatives.
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I'm running CG's with about 4K on them and they aren't half worn yet. My husband has the Heidenaus with over 4K and they have a ton of use left also.

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How are the Pirellis and Heidenaus for mileage?
My Pirelli Diablos got around 7500km
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