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My anti-theft in the scooter has a slot for a telephone sim card that acts as a track, in Italy we have telephone subscriptions to be used only for sim cards for anti-theft ... fixed and mobile.
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This week, Canadian police announced that car thieves have been using AirTags to track vehicles they want to steal.

York Regional Police (which serves an area north of Toronto) revealed that it has investigated five incidents in the past three months in which thieves have hidden AirTags on vehicles parked in public. Later, the thieves tracked down their targets to steal the cars at their leisure.
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What ya know...

It works both way then... ROFL emoticon
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I'm interested in getting a tracker for my P200 and found this post very interesting. Does anyone have any updates on the products that are currently available?
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I put an Apple Air Tag ($27.50) hidden in my Pinarello Bicycle. If I get to far away, it lets me know. Works like a charm.

I'd add one to my Vespa but it's never left far away when I'm out. I should get one anyway.
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I have a Apple Air tag and will also put a tile in each of the scooters. Different locations in the scoots.
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I put an Apple Air Tag ($27.50) hidden in my Pinarello Bicycle. If I get to far away, it lets me know. Works like a charm.

I'd add one to my Vespa but it's never left far away when I'm out. I should get one anyway.
I have an AirTag and a Pinarello too! Mine's a Team Sky Dogma 60.1 from 2012. Best bicycle I've ever ridden. The AirTag also works well. It lets me know it doesn't see the airbag when I get about 1/4 mile while driving in my car.
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I have an AirTag and a Pinarello too! Mine's a Team Sky Dogma 60.1 from 2012. Best bicycle I've ever ridden. The AirTag also works well. It lets me know it doesn't see the airbag when I get about 1/4 mile while driving in my car.
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We love pictures. Especially of 2 wheel bikes made in Italy.
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We love pictures. Especially of 2 wheel bikes made in Italy.
As requested Billrush...

Mine is a 2012. It's like flying on two wheels. This is the model that Team Sky won on the Tour de France that year. Team Sky, now Team Ineous, still ride Pinarello. Miguel
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These work great.

So here's what I do, and I've recovered a scooter with this method:

I bought a 4 pack , and I put two on my scooter. The other two are on my dog's collars.

-The first one goes under the seat. It's pretty obvious, and waiting to be found. I normally tape it to the side of the undersea storage bucket or under the seat.
-The second one has the speaker removed (you can YouTube how to do this), and I hide it under the plastic platform the scooter battery sits on top of. You'd have to go through a series of screws and unhook the battery to get to it.

Why?

Apple will potentially alert the thief that stole the bike if an AirTag is present if it's traveling with them. I've had a thief remove an AirTag because of this and I lost track of the bike. The double method lets the thief easily find the first AirTag and then assume they are good at that point. The second one is super hidden and won't beep as the speaker is removed. The thief has no reason to search for a second one because they'll have no reason to think there were two and then assume any tracking notifications were just from the original one.

I HAVE recovered a scooter this way, where I lost one AirTag (thanks, thief) but the second hidden one led me to find it in a nearby town, where I stole it back. I alerted the cops afterwards as I had filed a stolen vehicle report beforehand.
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Wow Pbankey, you are amazing. Your double AirTag method is amazing! I'll have to look at the speaker removal method on YouTube.
Apple added those beeps to prevent people who were using AirTags to track strangers. Guys were putting AirTags into women's purses at bars and crazy stuff like that.

Your approach is genius!
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Even better. You can buy fake ones.
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Apple added those beeps to prevent people who were using AirTags to track strangers...
I thought the initial use/purpose of the beep was to play a sound with Apple's "Find My" to assist with finding the AirTag. I thought is was a later software update that alerted people the that there was an AirTag that is following them.

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I thought the initial use/purpose of the beep was to play a sound with Apple's "Find My" to assist with finding the AirTag. I thought is was a later software update that alerted people the that there was an AirTag that is following them.

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I think you are right.
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If I misplace my phone, I just call it from another in the family.
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We love pictures. Especially of 2 wheel bikes made in Italy.
Definitely considering an AirTag for this. Ps I have a better bar/stem setup now. Still undecided on a saddle (might get my existing one re-upholstered in black as I find it really comfy).
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As requested Billrush...

Mine is a 2012. It's like flying on two wheels. This is the model that Team Sky won on the Tour de France that year. Team Sky, now Team Ineous, still ride Pinarello. Miguel
…and an Italian groupset too. Very nice.
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I have classic cars and I use something called GPSandtrack. There are two versions. Hard wired or battery.

The hard wired ones are wired to the vehicle battery and send out a continuous signal. You can look at your phone at any time and see where it is. You can set up a so called geofence and if the vehicle goes outside of that area it will alert you.

The battery version has a built in battery and requires no installation. It has a magnet or can be bolted down. It checks it location and sends out a signal once or twice a day and waits for a reply. If it finds itself outside the geo fence it will alert you and go into continuous tracking mode. The battery will last five years if it doesn't go into continuous mode. It's great for things like trailers that don't have a battery.

Neither one can be detected by anyone unless they log onto the website and enter the password.
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Definitely considering an AirTag for this. Ps I have a better bar/stem setup now. Still undecided on a saddle (might get my existing one re-upholstered in black as I find it really comfy).
Beautiful bike!! I'm unfamiliar with the Cipollini brand but the frame is beautifully sculpted. The fork interface echos a lot of current frames as does the hidden cable ways in the frame. I also can't tell what gruppo you have. I'm not that familiar with Dure Ace if that's what you have. I do recognize the Deda stem and maybe Look pedals. I know of the Hyper brand wheels but nothing about them.

Thanks for posting. Hope you watching the Tour. Is Tadeh unstoppable?

Best
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I purchased an all-weather cover the mounts with double-sided 3M tape. I was thinking about sticking it under the front fender. Thoughts?
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I purchased an all-weather cover the mounts with double-sided 3M tape. I was thinking about sticking it under the front fender. Thoughts?
Probably work but there are so many less risky places to hide it.
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Sorry but not understanding what you mean by "risky"? Referring to location, danger, access? Thanks in advance
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Good comprehensive insurance, let my agent worry about it.

As cheap as Insurance companies are, they are the best "buyers" when your motorbikes/autos get stolen or totaled, especially motorbikes, They are bound to pay Actual Cash Value, plus tax and licensing

I have had a few motorcycles stolen in my life,
none in the last 2 1/2 decades,
Carport = it's gonna get stolen
Garage = not so much

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Sorry but not understanding what you mean by "risky"? Referring to location, danger, access? Thanks in advance
Sh1tty/high crime zip codes, carports

vs good/low crime zip codes, garages
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Sorry but not understanding what you mean by "risky"? Referring to location, danger, access? Thanks in advance
Location. Might fall off in such an exposed place. Just MHO
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I purchased an all-weather cover the mounts with double-sided 3M tape. I was thinking about sticking it under the front fender. Thoughts?
Why not tape it to the body inside the radiator fill compartment on the right side or inside the glove box. I think road debris would knock it off if you put in under the fender.

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Why not tape it to the body inside the radiator fill compartment on the right side or inside the glove box. I think road debris would knock it off if you put in under the fender.
I agree. The underside of the front fender is a dirty mess -- either wet or oily, but always dirty. Just getting a clean surface to mount it on inside the fender will be a challenge, and it will then be assaulted by mud, rocks, oil, and dirt until it comes off and bounces down the roadway. But hey, at least you'll be able to find the AirTag again!

I think inside the cover to the radiator fill is an excellent idea.
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The problem with airtags, as I see it and if I'm understanding how they work is than anyone with the app can tell if there is one hidden somewhere.

I have a couple classic cars and I have GPS based locators on them. I can open the app and see where my cars are at any time and I have set up a "geofence" where if the car goes outside my set area it will send me a text. It is impossible to detect or access the unit if you don't know the password.
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The problem with airtags, as I see it and if I'm understanding how they work is than anyone with the app can tell if there is one hidden somewhere.
Yes, that's true. But since the bad guy in any movie is always using an Android phone, I think it's safe to assume that anyone who steals your scooter probably does not have an iPhone and thus will never be notified that there is an AirTag traveling with them.

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Yes, that's true. But since the bad guy in any movie is always using an Android phone, I think it's safe to assume that anyone who steals your scooter probably does not have an iPhone and thus will never be notified that there is an AirTag traveling with them.


lol. Mind you many smart crims wouldn't take any phone with them - don't want police accessing phone location history recorded by the cell towers / telcos
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lol. Mind you many smart crims
I stopped reading right there.
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Why not tape it to the body inside the radiator fill compartment on the right side or inside the glove box. I think road debris would knock it off if you put in under the fender.

Miguel
on every bike I've seen and worked on that's been recovered from theft the entire glove compartment, key area and horn cast are always trashed followed in short order by the battery compartment.

I'd avoid both of those areas and anything near the ECU, spark plug and coil. they like to play there too.
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on every bike I've seen and worked on that's been recovered from theft the entire glove compartment, key area and horn cast are always trashed followed in short order by the battery compartment.
Fair point.
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Because I have Android I use Tile which Apple copied and made popular, I am looking forward to this.

Report: Google working on an AirTag competitor, codenamed "grogu"
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-tracker-grogu-3267081/
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Because I have Android I use Tile which Apple copied and made popular added new features and capabilities to, since Tile had been sitting on their thumbs for years.
Fixed that for you.
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Fixed that for you.
I'll leave this here

Tile
The first devices were delivered in 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tile_(company)

AirTag
The product was rumored to be under development in April 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTag#History
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Tile
The first devices were delivered in 2013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tile_(company)

AirTag
The product was rumored to be under development in April 2019
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirTag#History
I'm not disputing the timeline. I remember when Tile came out, and I was at Apple while AirTags were being developed, and knew (vaguely) of their existence.

I'm disputing that it's merely a copy, as anyone who has actually used an AirTag would attest to.
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I'm disputing that it's merely a copy, as anyone who has actually used an AirTag would attest to.
fair enough
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This afternoon i noticed my scooter was no longer in the parking garage here at my apartment. A quick "find my" and i found my scooter 6 miles away at a very sketchy apartment complex. The Kryptonite lock on the back wheel was still on it and it looked like they had tried sawing it off without luck. Anyway, while waiting on the Portland Police Bureau to show up, I contacted a tow company who promptly showed up, confirmed it was my scooter, recovered it, and transported it to Vespa Portland before the PPB called me back. So here's a very strong vote for the AirTag!! Hopefully the damage won't be too bad. The steering column was locked and he had to drill out the ignition to get it to move. Some minor (i hope) plastic breakage.

Added: Apparently it was stolen sometime in the middle of the night and the crack security team here watched it happen and filed a police report, but did not know who the scooter belonged to until i contacted them to report it. Not sure how it was stolen yet as they're being a bit tight lipped, but I'm going to assume (since it wouldn't roll), it was lifted up into the back of a truck/van. They also had to replace the busted out parking garage gates this am, which may or may not be related.
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