2020 vs 2021 GTS 300
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Hooked
Triumph Bonneville T120
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Location: Bentonville
Tue Apr 27, 2021 5:37 pm quote
I apologize up front. I searched but couldnít find much on the topic.

Is there any difference in the two year models besides the wheels? Iím struggling to find a 2021 red gts 300 within a 10 hour drive. A dealer not too far away has a 2020 and offered me $200 off. Another dealer says a 2021 is on the way, but itís been a month and they donít know when itís actually arriving.

So, ugh. Decisions!

Also, backstory: I had a 300, sold it and bought a Bonneville T120, and now I want another Vespa.
Hooked
2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Tue Apr 27, 2021 10:00 pm quote
Not enough to matter. The most apparent change I've heard of is that the wheels are a bit different.
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Blue GTS300 Super 2015, White GTS300 Super 2018
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Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:58 pm quote
I've read that the Euro 5 model is a little less powerful than the Euro 4 one. Same peak power, but dropping off as revs increase. May not be significant.
Ossessionato
2016 Vespa GTS300ie abs/asr/ess Settantesimo '70'
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Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:12 am quote
The euro 4 was much less powerful than the HPE with around 21+hp. The HPE was and is already euro 5 and produces 23.8hp. It was released as euro 5 ready. Torque remains the same at 26nm at the same rpm.

https://www.gofullthrottle.co.uk/Vespa-GTS-300-HPE-Euro-5/Z98.htm
Hooked
Supertech 2019 (EURO3/APAC)
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Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:48 am quote
2021/Euro5 has a different exhaust compared to previous HPE (2019-2020)

https://modernvespa.com/forum/topic173802

at least in europe ...

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Hooked
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Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:56 am quote
Stromrider wrote:
The euro 4 was much less powerful than the HPE with around 21+hp. The HPE was and is already euro 5 and produces 23.8hp. It was released as euro 5 ready. Torque remains the same at 26nm at the same rpm.

https://www.gofullthrottle.co.uk/Vespa-GTS-300-HPE-Euro-5/Z98.htm
that link is misleading ...

the blue bike is not an GTS HPE, it's a GTS 125

the red and grey are the new Euro5 HPE with the new exhaust and new wheels

the verde relax is the Euro4 HPE with the old exhaust and old wheels


PS, the so called 'new wheels' came on my 2019 supertech here in Aus

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Veni, Vidi, Posti
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Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:01 am quote
If you think you are going faster you are wrong, as general performance we are more or less at the same point.
But since the Vespa is above all a question of "appearing" rather than "being", it may be that the aesthetic difference is more important.
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2016 Vespa GTS300ie abs/asr/ess Settantesimo '70'
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Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:27 am quote
steelbytes wrote:
Stromrider wrote:
The euro 4 was much less powerful than the HPE with around 21+hp. The HPE was and is already euro 5 and produces 23.8hp. It was released as euro 5 ready. Torque remains the same at 26nm at the same rpm.

https://www.gofullthrottle.co.uk/Vespa-GTS-300-HPE-Euro-5/Z98.htm
that link is misleading ...

the blue bike is not an GTS HPE, it's a GTS 125

the red and grey are the new Euro5 HPE with the new exhaust and new wheels

the verde relax is the Euro4 HPE with the old exhaust and old wheels


PS, the so called 'new wheels' came on my 2019 supertech here in Aus
Yes, the article is about the GTS300 but they have inadvertently put the main picture of the GTS125 up instead. As you say the other bikes shown on that page are the 300's, but they are all euro 5 with the spec as described in the main write up. There are no euro 4 HPE bikes anywhere in the world. All of them are euro 5 from inception. Check out the link below....scroll down to read about euro 5.
https://scooterlab.uk/2019-vespa-gts-300-hpe-super-launch-road-test/
Hooked
Triumph Bonneville T120
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Location: Bentonville
Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:38 am quote
Thanks everyone, for the info.

As an aside - it seems like thereís a widespread inventory issue right now. None of the dealers in my region have gotten any new Vespaís in weeks, and they donít seem to have any idea when more are arriving (one said maybe next month).
Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
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Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:56 pm quote
I don't know any reason to avoid the 2020. If is the model you want, in a color you want , I'd say go for it.
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2020 GTS 300 HPE
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Location: Ventura, CA
Sat May 01, 2021 9:36 am quote
2020 vs. 2021 GTS 300
Well, I have a 2020 with 1.8K miles on it and I'm loving the increase in power from previous years. I wish I had not waited three years or so to purchase (but glad I got the HPE). Note: I was surprised to see when I checked recently the stock tires are Michelin CityGrips -- I was expecting a cheaper "stock" tire! That said I love the 2021 Orange color (Impulsivo?).
Hooked
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Mon May 03, 2021 6:38 am quote
I'd jump at the 2020 HPE before they're all gone...COVID certainly has caused all sorts of weird delays in vehicles, and who knows when new bikes will arrive. Plus, as stated above...no real changes worth holding off for the 2021 models unless there is a new color you really want.

I bought my 2020 HPE last fall and love it!

Eric
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Triumph Bonneville T120
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Mon May 03, 2021 5:18 pm quote
Jayhawk wrote:
I'd jump at the 2020 HPE before they're all gone...COVID certainly has caused all sorts of weird delays in vehicles, and who knows when new bikes will arrive. Plus, as stated above...no real changes worth holding off for the 2021 models unless there is a new color you really want.

I bought my 2020 HPE last fall and love it!

Eric
The red 2021 finally arrived last week and I snapped it up. The dealer said someone offered to buy it before I arrived but thankfully he waited on me! But yeah, supply has really slowed down.
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