Tue May 18, 2021 10:12 am

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Tue May 18, 2021 10:12 am linkquote
Anyone have a source they use for 11" tubeless tires in the US? Going to be for street and county road use at ~60 mph. Don't plan any long trips or riding in the rain, would guess anything will be 50 miles or less. Otherwise I'll take the bigger bike.

Hopefully sometime in the next month or so a set of rims will show up.

J&P has 120/70-11 city grips says front only, is there a front and rear for our scooters?

Revzilla has

110 or 120/70-11 K61 racer tires

110/70-11 Pirelli SL38 Tires

110/70-11 K58

Shinko SR 007 Scooter Tires 120/70-11, says rear only, again is there a front and rear for our scooters?

Shinko SR 723 White Wall Scooter Tires 110/70-11
Tue May 18, 2021 12:37 pm

Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
 
Ossessionato
76 Sprint V, 63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella
Joined: 16 Jun 2011
Posts: 3785
Location: Nashville
Tue May 18, 2021 12:37 pm linkquote
I'd go 110's if I had it to do all over again. The 120's are really too wide.

You can't go wrong with the K61's, though.
Tue May 18, 2021 4:01 pm

Ossessionato
Joined: 26 Oct 2015
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Ossessionato
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Tue May 18, 2021 4:01 pm linkquote
I'm really liking my 110/70-11 K61 tires. I did have a 120/70-11 on my PK200, but it was too tall of a tire for my stock 200 engine. Width-wise it worked perfectly on my scooter, but my PK was modified so that it easily fit. I now have just about a brand new 120/70-11 K61 (50~100 miles on it) on my shelf that i'm not going to be using.
Wed May 19, 2021 3:56 am

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Wed May 19, 2021 3:56 am linkquote
avoid the shinko's

the K's are bomb

the pirellis have come stock on vespa for years and years. i know that they get shit on all the time, but that's usually from weenies that expect a million miles out of a tire. i've ridden them countless miles and they're a good, reliable tire. they wear quickly but are good in ALL weather conditions and predictable. when they get hot hot you can feel them get a little wiggly waggly.

but given the choice, pricewise they're gonna be about the same, i'd probably take the 58's in so far as the 61's more than likely have the center line (if not i'd take those first) then the 58's and then the pirelli

hth

-g
Wed May 19, 2021 4:21 am

Addicted
2010 gts 300 super. 09 MP3 500 lite
Joined: 02 Apr 2013
Posts: 901
Location: tampa
 
Addicted
2010 gts 300 super. 09 MP3 500 lite
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Posts: 901
Location: tampa
Wed May 19, 2021 4:21 am linkquote
I run front tires on rear of some of my bikes with no issues. the S007 is a really nice tire and one of my favorites. the sl26 is a really crappy tire.bought two for my helix. both tires were out of round and literally shook the bike. they do wear lightening fast. michelin is of course well regarded. I have no experience using heidenau
Wed May 19, 2021 5:29 am

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Wed May 19, 2021 5:29 am linkquote
jerryd wrote:
I run front tires on rear of some of my bikes with no issues. the S007 is a really nice tire and one of my favorites. the sl26 is a really crappy tire.bought two for my helix. both tires were out of round and literally shook the bike. they do wear lightening fast. michelin is of course well regarded. I have no experience using heidenau
some tires are uni-directional, others are not. on the the S007 i don't know what you're talking about. however the SL26 is a great tire. i've run them on 10's and 12's and installed a metric ass ton of them and have never had a peep of complaint. whoever did your install probably didn't balance the tire. and if you got defective tires, you should've gotten you money back.

anyway, news flash hombre: sticky tires wear out fast. pirelli=sticky

at the end of the day, everybody makes really good tires. choose what you want.

just an fyi tho... SL26 run a little taller and wider than most in the same size.

-g
Wed May 19, 2021 5:54 am

Addicted
2010 gts 300 super. 09 MP3 500 lite
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Location: tampa
 
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Location: tampa
Wed May 19, 2021 5:54 am linkquote
I had a vespa gts250 for a year that had sl26. they were fine on that bike. thats why I purchase the sl26 for my helix. I didnt know tires were crap when I first put them on. the tires that came on bike were horrible. so when the sl26 went on I blamed the 50,000 mile condition of bike. I replaced every bushing next and installed bitubo at the corners. then was able to pinpoint the tires causing vibration. the sl26 front was replaced with five year old s007. instant love for the tire. smooth, quiet, great wet or dry. and one year later no perceivable wear.the sl26 rear wore out in 1200 miles. shinko makes nice tires. local shops sell more than any other brand. I have tried three different ones and like them all. your mileage may vary.
Wed May 19, 2021 6:18 am

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Wed May 19, 2021 6:18 am linkquote
psst! psst! c'mere... lemme tell you a little secret... you know why shops sell more shinkos than any other tire?

because they're the cheapest tire they offer.

(source former shop owner and service writer, current tech)

anyway, your experience is with a bike that is ENTIRELY different and with ENTIRELY different sized tires than a vintage bike. while this doesn't discount your comment or experience in any way, everybody should probably take it all with a giant ass grain of salt.

also, florida? are there any curves in that entire state?

you're thinking brie time baby when it's clearly gorgonzola over here.

-g
Wed May 19, 2021 8:34 am

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Wed May 19, 2021 8:34 am linkquote
I don't need an all season radial, short life is fine, I doubt I get more than 3000 miles a riding season in Minnesota.

Looking online I can get Pirelli SL38 - sticky tires sound great.

I can also get a K61, what's this rain groove people speak of?
Thu May 20, 2021 6:47 am

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Thu May 20, 2021 6:47 am linkquote
Bought 110/70-11, K61 tires this time, on paper dimensionally they are about the same circumference. Guessing tubed VS tubeless and 10" vs 11" the sidewall will be a bit stiffer increasing the rolling radius. I have 10" tubed Zippy S1 tires on there now.
Sun May 23, 2021 9:14 am

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Sun May 23, 2021 9:14 am linkquote
Penelope gave them a sniff test she wasn't impressed. Now I just need the wheels.



Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 pm

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
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Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Sun May 23, 2021 2:34 pm linkquote
Christopher_55934 wrote:
Penelope gave them a sniff test she wasn't impressed. Now I just need the wheels.
That's one weird looking cat...

Anyway, set the tires out in the sun for a bit. Those are notorious for being very stiff and difficult to mount. It'll help to soften them up.

Good luck!

-g
Sun May 23, 2021 5:34 pm

Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
 
Molto Verboso
2007 Stella 225
Joined: 02 Nov 2019
Posts: 1879
Location: Rochester, Minnesota
Sun May 23, 2021 5:34 pm linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
That's one weird looking cat...

Anyway, set the tires out in the sun for a bit. Those are notorious for being very stiff and difficult to mount. It'll help to soften them up.

Good luck!

-g
I'll definitely put them in the sun.



Mon May 24, 2021 12:42 am

Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
 
Sergeant at Arms
Weird 80's Vespas & Cool Vintage Lambrettas
Joined: 21 Oct 2005
Posts: 9522
Location: The state of insanity, SoCal
Mon May 24, 2021 12:42 am linkquote
good doggos!

boops that snoots and rub the ears for me.

hope your install goes good. remember, like in life: lube, pressure, angle of attack. right tools for the job. patience. you've got this hombre!

-g
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