Sun May 30, 2021 9:58 am

El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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Sun May 30, 2021 9:58 am linkquote
Through the years my understanding of what is a correct SS180 glove box has changed more times than I can count. I lie I can count to two or three. But, I can't make a convincing argument as to what is correct.

1. SS180 box is different than a Rally 180
2. Yeah Nah... glove box is the same as a Rally 180
and I have read learned opinions from all the best sources.... and it still seems there is a lack of consensus

Vespa Technica shows a 66/67 SS180 with the smaller Rally 180 glovebox
Sarti's "All the models" also shows the smaller Rally 180 glove box.

But... you can always find pics of an SS180 with a larger (kinda looks like mk2 GS160 box) glovebox. It seems (and this could be a case of confirmation bias) that most of the larger SS180 gloveboxes I find are on earlier circa 64/65 models.

Was there a larger transitional glovebox on the SS180, before they started using the more common and smaller version? Were GS160 boxes compatible and just resourced by Piaggio until the stock ran out?

I would love to put this mystery to rest once and for all. Who has thaoughts? Make your argument. Show your work. etc.


Pinched from interwebs - a SS180 with larger gb next to a Rally with the smaller gb.


Larger gb on an early SS180? Shadows?



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Sun May 30, 2021 11:00 am

Hooked
1978 P150X; 1982 P200e
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Hooked
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Sun May 30, 2021 11:00 am linkquote
Hi Birdsnest,

If it helps any my glovebox is exactly like the red SS on the bottom picture (i.e. the big one).

V
Sun May 30, 2021 11:26 am

El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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Sun May 30, 2021 11:26 am linkquote
Velasquez wrote:
Hi Birdsnest,

If it helps any my glovebox is exactly like the red SS on the bottom picture (i.e. the big one).

V
Thanks V

What year is your SS? And do you think the box is original to the bike?
Sun May 30, 2021 12:49 pm

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Hooked
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Sun May 30, 2021 12:49 pm linkquote
Birdsnest wrote:
Thanks V

What year is your SS? And do you think the box is original to the bike?
It's a 66 and positive it's original to the bike.
Mon May 31, 2021 9:36 am

El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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Mon May 31, 2021 9:36 am linkquote
2 phone calls in the last 24/48 hours with vintage scooter folks smarter than me and they are firmly in the camp that glovebox size is all the same. SS180, Rally 180, Rally 200. No mythical larger box on early SS or larger boxes from secondary markets.
Mon May 31, 2021 11:17 am

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Location: Flatness, TX
 
Hooked
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Mon May 31, 2021 11:17 am linkquote
Are you sure they don't make larger boxes...???

jus' kidding...



Mon May 31, 2021 11:38 am

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Mon May 31, 2021 11:38 am linkquote
there is a GS here in SF that was a late '64 and has the SS style column and glove box lock.

Just to mess up any further distinctions...
Mon May 31, 2021 12:39 pm

El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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El Presidente Del Topo Chico
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Mon May 31, 2021 12:39 pm linkquote
poidog wrote:
Are you sure they don't make larger boxes...???
Lolz

You're killing me Smalls.
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