Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:03 pm

Lurker
Joined: 03 Jun 2021
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Location: Queensland Australia
 
Lurker
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Posts: 2
Location: Queensland Australia
Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:03 pm linkquote
hi, just considering buying this Vespa Sprint Veloce, but I can't find out whether its been imported from Asia or an original scooter direct from Italy to Australia.

from the VIN I can see its Italian, but there's no paperwork or compliance plate, anyone have any suggestions. Was going to buy to do minor restoration, keep as original as possible.

From the pics it looks fairly complete but I can see some filler here and there, which could be expected for something this old

VIN is VLBT (star ) 0313071 (this is what I was given, it may be missing a 1 between B and T?

engine VLB1M 0380515

see the pics











Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:26 pm

Petty Tyrant
GTS250 GTS300 MP3 500
Joined: 11 Oct 2005
Posts: 30937
Location: Bay Area, California
 
Petty Tyrant
GTS250 GTS300 MP3 500
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Posts: 30937
Location: Bay Area, California
Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:26 pm linkquote
Moved to Not So Modern.
Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:28 pm

Banned
2:6
Joined: 11 Jan 2007
Posts: 7777
Location: San Francisco
 
Banned
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Posts: 7777
Location: San Francisco
Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:28 pm linkquote
the kick start lever is the only thing that jumps out to me as odd. but that's not a bodge thing, just an odd thing.
Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:21 pm

bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x 2), 74 Primavera (x 2), 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 5920
Location: So Cal
 
bodgemaster
63 GL, 76 Super (x 2), 74 Primavera (x 2), 06 Fly 150
Joined: 26 Sep 2013
Posts: 5920
Location: So Cal
Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:21 pm linkquote
The motor number doesnít look correct.
Lots of filler below the glovebox door.
Trapezoid headset suggests Indo origin.
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:31 pm

Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1734
Location: Siam
 
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1734
Location: Siam
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:31 pm linkquote
oopsclunkthud wrote:
the kick start lever is the only thing that jumps out to me as odd. but that's not a bodge thing, just an odd thing.
Itís looks like a small frame lever.
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:55 pm

Addicted
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 658
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
 
Addicted
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
Joined: 06 May 2019
Posts: 658
Location: Roseburg, Oregon
Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:55 pm linkquote
SoCalGuy wrote:
The motor number doesnít look correct.
Lots of filler below the glovebox door.
Trapezoid headset suggests Indo origin.
Agreed. Lets see topview of the headset. If it has small-clam speedo + indent for hex badge; definitley an indo headset.
Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:41 pm

Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1734
Location: Siam
 
Molto Verboso
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
Joined: 16 Apr 2011
Posts: 1734
Location: Siam
Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:41 pm linkquote
If itís Indonesian, thatís ok. If itís been repackaged in Pakistan or Vietnam, then itís a problem. I love Indonesia with absolutely no sarcasm.
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:27 am

Molto Verboso
One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
Joined: 17 Jul 2013
Posts: 1698
Location: UK (South East)
 
Molto Verboso
One or two fun scoots....nothing too precious
Joined: 17 Jul 2013
Posts: 1698
Location: UK (South East)
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:27 am linkquote
Looks like it's had at least one respray since factory, so as always, try to gauge what's under the paint. The cracks in the left side cowl indicate a bunch of body filler as Socal said, but a side cowl can be replaced. The integrity of the main structural frame is to be determined.

It has an old style engine (not a PX swap-out), so that bodes well, especially if it's the proper Sprint V 3 port motor from factory.

I know next to nothing about Indonesian Vespa characteristics, but certainly in Europe, a Sprint V would have had a Rally style headset and big round headlight, whilst a regular 2 port Sprint would have had a trapezoid.
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:41 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 6158
Location: Latina (Italy)
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
In garage: Yamaha Tricity 155 Urban 2019 - MV Agusta 125 RS 1956
Joined: 21 Jul 2007
Posts: 6158
Location: Latina (Italy)
Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:41 am linkquote
swa45 wrote:
Looks like it's had at least one respray since factory, so as always, try to gauge what's under the paint. The cracks in the left side cowl indicate a bunch of body filler as Socal said, but a side cowl can be replaced. The integrity of the main structural frame is to be determined.

It has an old style engine (not a PX swap-out), so that bodes well, especially if it's the proper Sprint V 3 port motor from factory.

I know next to nothing about Indonesian Vespa characteristics, but certainly in Europe, a Sprint V would have had a Rally style headset and big round headlight, whilst a regular 2 port Sprint would have had a trapezoid.
Fair enough ... + or -.
The model code is "suspiciously" eroded .... mmmh ....


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Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:48 pm

Lurker
Joined: 03 Jun 2021
Posts: 2
Location: Queensland Australia
 
Lurker
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Posts: 2
Location: Queensland Australia
Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:48 pm linkquote
thanks for the replies, here is a pic of the top headset, I am leaning towards looking for another option, I really don't want to buy a money pit, and can't look at the scooter in person, so only have photos to go from



Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:33 am

Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
Joined: 26 May 2013
Posts: 4045
Location: That bushfire place
 
Ossessionato
2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
Joined: 26 May 2013
Posts: 4045
Location: That bushfire place
Sat Jun 05, 2021 6:33 am linkquote
My guess:
A: dunno!
B: DanMotors mystery box
C: something that almost managed to struggle thru 3km, then died
D: bodgy!
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