Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:51 am

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2020 GTS300 HPE "Whiskers"
Joined: 10 Nov 2020
Posts: 61
Location: Bama
 
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2020 GTS300 HPE "Whiskers"
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Posts: 61
Location: Bama
Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:51 am linkquote
Lived in and rode all over Chicagoland for 18 years. Given how you intend to use the bike, I think a 150 would suit you fine - power-wise. My concern as a rider with Chicago experience, would be the roads. I currently own a GTS and Iím quite certain Iíd prefer the larger wheeled machines if I were still tooling around Chicago.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:03 am

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Trying to Decide - Currently have a 2016 Zuma 125
Joined: 05 Jun 2021
Posts: 32
Location: Suburban Chicago
 
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Location: Suburban Chicago
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:03 am linkquote
Retro Scoot wrote:
Lived in and rode all over Chicagoland for 18 years. Given how you intend to use the bike, I think a 150 would suit you fine - power-wise. My concern as a rider with Chicago experience, would be the roads. I currently own a GTS and Iím quite certain Iíd prefer the larger wheeled machines if I were still tooling around Chicago.
Thanks.

I intend to avoid "Chicago proper" at all costs!

I live up by Gurnee, so this will not be a problem at all.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:28 am

Enthusiast
2020 GTS300 HPE "Whiskers"
Joined: 10 Nov 2020
Posts: 61
Location: Bama
 
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2020 GTS300 HPE "Whiskers"
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Posts: 61
Location: Bama
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:28 am linkquote
86Hawkeye wrote:
Thanks.

I intend to avoid "Chicago proper" at all costs!

I live up by Gurnee, so this will not be a problem at all.
Youíre near a lot of good secondary-road, country riding! Should be a blast!
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:46 am

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2014 Commuter BV350(45,000)/2015 Scoot Life BV350(11,000)/2010 El Diablito SH150i(30,000) 2010 SH150i project scoot.
Joined: 27 Dec 2013
Posts: 2593
Location: Orange Park Florida
 
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2014 Commuter BV350(45,000)/2015 Scoot Life BV350(11,000)/2010 El Diablito SH150i(30,000) 2010 SH150i project scoot.
Joined: 27 Dec 2013
Posts: 2593
Location: Orange Park Florida
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:46 am linkquote
86Hawkeye wrote:
XMax 150 not sold in the United States.
I wen't to St. Augustine Fl. and sat on one a few months ago. Smax not Xmax.
WLeuthold has an Xmax, so

https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/mcd/d/fort-lauderdale-2021-yamaha-xmax/7329729775.html

https://www.cycletrader.com/listing/2020-Yamaha-Smax-5015744417
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:28 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: 13 Sep 2012
Posts: 9924
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: 13 Sep 2012
Posts: 9924
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:28 am linkquote
Understanding you're not an experienced rider, unsure about how much faster riding you'll be doing, and not averse to trading up at some point in the future, the 150 sounds like a good choice. The tradeoff is lighter weight and easier maneuverability in town vs stability at higher speeds on the highway. It seems too that one of you might be perfectly content with a smaller scooter and the other might not. That will need some time to sort out.

Yes...you'd better get on the license thing! I (and many others here) would highly recommend the MSF course as part of the process (not sure about Illinois, but many states, Wisconsin included allow the completion certificate as alternative to a road test. And your skill (read: safety) levels will be far above the alternative.

BTW, if you're social at all and want to hang out with other scooterists (we're not all bad, and some of us bathe.....), Scoot Jockeys is a great group...and you're pretty close to Lake Geneva as well as Chicago, with chapters in both areas...
Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:18 am

Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Posts: 11782
Location: Oregon City, OR
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
GTS 300ABS, Buddy 125, Buddy Kick 125
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
Posts: 11782
Location: Oregon City, OR
Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:18 am linkquote
86Hawkeye wrote:
I think at this stage we will not venture over 50 mph too often. If/when that time comes, I can sell/trade and move up.
Learning to ride has been an adventure for all of us as it will be for you. What I eventually found was that my very best rides were on lightly to moderately traveled rural secondary roads. Riding in heavy traffic is seldom fun IMO. Unfortunately most drivers on rural secondary roads around here do not restrict their speed to under 50 mph. Hence my GTS.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:29 am

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Trying to Decide - Currently have a 2016 Zuma 125
Joined: 05 Jun 2021
Posts: 32
Location: Suburban Chicago
 
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Trying to Decide - Currently have a 2016 Zuma 125
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Location: Suburban Chicago
Tue Jun 08, 2021 11:29 am linkquote
fledermaus wrote:
Understanding you're not an experienced rider, unsure about how much faster riding you'll be doing, and not averse to trading up at some point in the future, the 150 sounds like a good choice. The tradeoff is lighter weight and easier maneuverability in town vs stability at higher speeds on the highway. It seems too that one of you might be perfectly content with a smaller scooter and the other might not. That will need some time to sort out.

Yes...you'd better get on the license thing! I (and many others here) would highly recommend the MSF course as part of the process (not sure about Illinois, but many states, Wisconsin included allow the completion certificate as alternative to a road test. And your skill (read: safety) levels will be far above the alternative.

BTW, if you're social at all and want to hang out with other scooterists (we're not all bad, and some of us bathe.....), Scoot Jockeys is a great group...and you're pretty close to Lake Geneva as well as Chicago, with chapters in both areas...
Yes. I have noticed Scoot Jockeys😎

Trouble is, it is difficult to get into a riding class right now. Successful completion allows waiver of the written and driving tests in Illinois.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:25 pm

Molto Verboso
2018 LIBERTY 150S, 2013 Kymco LIKE200iLX
Joined: 26 Jul 2013
Posts: 1409
Location: Ohio
 
Molto Verboso
2018 LIBERTY 150S, 2013 Kymco LIKE200iLX
Joined: 26 Jul 2013
Posts: 1409
Location: Ohio
Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:25 pm linkquote
It is significantly easier to get in trouble with the throttle (power) of a 300, vs a 150.

O.S.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:35 pm

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two Vespa GTSs (Dragon Red and Black). Primavera- Kymco Yager 200i
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
Posts: 575
Location: Saratoga Springs, New York
 
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Location: Saratoga Springs, New York
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:35 pm linkquote
My wife and I were just a very few years younger than you (54 and 47) when we bought our first scooters; we bought two new Yamaha Vino 125s. They were great learning to ride in New York City and were adequate when we brought them to the country by trailer, especially on back roads, but couldnít hold 50 mph while climbing hills. We switched to 250s within 2-3 years and found them superior even when though we limited our rides on the Interstate to an exit or two. I love that there is no problem climbing mountains on country roads without concern that you are holding up cars behind you. I know that Illinois is pretty flat, so this is probably not important to you. Now that we live in the foothills of the Adirondaks, I appreciate the bigger scooter even more.
My wife has always wanted a small frame Vespa and we finally got one last month. She loves it, and it is adequate when we ride together. One big advantage is that the wife has almost no upper arm strength despite being five-ten and has a much easier time getting the small frame on the stand and backing it out of the garage as well as in parking lots. But, her 250 is still in the garage, and she says she will still use it for longer rides.
If we only had one Vespa, we would likely have the big frames, but we had the benefit of getting our riding experience on the smaller Yamahas first. We had no intention of riding on Interstates when we first started, but you may find yourself wanting to beat the rain home and appreciate the extra abilities of the big frame.
Sorry if I am of two minds here, but given the lack of hills in Illinois, assuming you are not overweight (like I am) you will be fine with the 150s and may really appreciate how easy they are to move around while parking as you get older.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:55 pm

Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: 13 Sep 2012
Posts: 9924
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
 
Veni, Vidi, Posti
2007 LX150 2015 GTS 2013 BV 350
Joined: 13 Sep 2012
Posts: 9924
Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin
Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:55 pm linkquote
86Hawkeye wrote:
Trouble is, it is difficult to get into a riding class right now. Successful completion allows waiver of the written and driving tests in Illinois.
It's most convenient that way, but you can still take the course when available, just for the experience. The other way to pick up skills is checking out Proficient Motorcycling (or Proficient Scootering, I believe is around as well..).
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:21 pm

Member
Trying to Decide - Currently have a 2016 Zuma 125
Joined: 05 Jun 2021
Posts: 32
Location: Suburban Chicago
 
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Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:21 pm linkquote
Kayemtee wrote:
My wife and I were just a very few years younger than you (54 and 47) when we bought our first scooters; we bought two new Yamaha Vino 125s. They were great learning to ride in New York City and were adequate when we brought them to the country by trailer, especially on back roads, but couldnít hold 50 mph while climbing hills. We switched to 250s within 2-3 years and found them superior even when though we limited our rides on the Interstate to an exit or two. I love that there is no problem climbing mountains on country roads without concern that you are holding up cars behind you. I know that Illinois is pretty flat, so this is probably not important to you. Now that we live in the foothills of the Adirondaks, I appreciate the bigger scooter even more.
My wife has always wanted a small frame Vespa and we finally got one last month. She loves it, and it is adequate when we ride together. One big advantage is that the wife has almost no upper arm strength despite being five-ten and has a much easier time getting the small frame on the stand and backing it out of the garage as well as in parking lots. But, her 250 is still in the garage, and she says she will still use it for longer rides.
If we only had one Vespa, we would likely have the big frames, but we had the benefit of getting our riding experience on the smaller Yamahas first. We had no intention of riding on Interstates when we first started, but you may find yourself wanting to beat the rain home and appreciate the extra abilities of the big frame.
Sorry if I am of two minds here, but given the lack of hills in Illinois, assuming you are not overweight (like I am) you will be fine with the 150s and may really appreciate how easy they are to move around while parking as you get older.
I totally understand the "two minds" thing right now.

Thanks for the advice!
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