Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:05 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:05 am linkquote
Is there a mechanical reason (or safety) for using split washers on the wheels rather than bent or flex washers?

Also, same question for locknuts vs regular nuts?

I get the originality thing, just want to know.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:22 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:22 am linkquote
I wouldn’t trust a wavy washer to provide the tension needed on a critical part like a wheel lug nut. Some people use Nordlock washers. Locking nuts are ok but seem like overkill and some might be too tall.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:28 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 7:28 am linkquote
I may have gone overkill with lock washers AND nylock nuts on my rims.


Better to be safe than sorry!
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:34 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:34 am linkquote
Thank you- I think tension is the magic word here, along with thickness/tension strength.

Split washers it will be! Still contemplating lock nuts tho...seems like a no brainer, except harder to change with a flat situation.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:43 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:43 am linkquote
dsnyder586 wrote:
Thank you- I think tension is the magic word here, along with thickness/tension strength.

Split washers it will be! Still contemplating lock nuts tho...seems like a no brainer, except harder to change with a flat situation.
I'd still rather struggle with a flat rather than deal with a wheel splitting while at speed. Lock Nuts!!
Plus you'd likely be changing that flat at home if you carry a spare, so that's not too bad.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:57 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 8:57 am linkquote
I use the wave washers with nyloc nuts, but nothing else.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:11 am

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:11 am linkquote
I use a medium strength or blue loctite, on stock studs, on hubs that I have changed studs to longer ones, I switch to a flanged locknut.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:36 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:36 pm linkquote
just as PSA i've seen nylock nuts absolutely eat up rims and hub studs because they didn't engage enough.

but nylocks on rims, fine and dandy.

wave washer with a dab of blue or a full split washer on standard nut for me.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:38 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:38 pm linkquote
greasy125 wrote:
just as PSA i've seen nylock nuts absolutely eat up rims and hub studs because they didn't engage enough.

but nylocks on rims, fine and dandy.

wave washer with a dab of blue or a full split washer on standard nut for me.
I definitely needed longer than Factory studs to use nylock nuts on my Stella.
Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:41 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 5:41 pm linkquote
Christopher_55934 wrote:
I definitely needed longer than Factory studs to use nylock nuts on my Stella.
some of us need a little longer than what the factory gave us to, uhh... *clears throat* engage...
Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:14 pm

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Tue Jun 08, 2021 6:14 pm linkquote
SIP tubeless tire/rim combos come with nord lock washers, it leaves a little more room for the nuts. Insert joke here.
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