Modern Vespa

Positioning the front fender ones.

They look amazing!

1. slightly down at the back looks more correct to me.

Here's some closer photos of original ones.

I agree slightly down and parallel to the indent in the mudguard above.

Thanks! It keeps the same space along the top, which looks right.

When you make it more parallel, it gets tighter, which looks weird.

seems to be parallel to the top edge of the formed line, not the bottom.

left side of mine is 50mm, right side is 51mm at the front and 52 at the rear.

I'm sure there was variation is how it was applied at the factory, but that gives you another data point.

The measurements are really helpful!

Thank you!

And stickers.

This thing is almost ready to start.

have nothing to say just GREAT!

More. Almost there.

the Pascoli fuel line clips are what the factory used. As long as you have the factory size fuel line as well, the clips will work fine.

lol.

I looks like I bought two different oil lines.

Guess I need to order.

I have 3 ft of 6x13 Ariete

http://guzzino.com/airetefuelline.html

You are welcome to it

Awesome! Thanks!

That's very Italian.

First attempt at this. Almost worked.

This is amazing. I see work like this and while I probably won't ever do it, I definitely file all these things away in case I ever need them.

That's crazy cool man.
Hat tip for the idea, effort, and share.

I love projects like this.

Perfect.

I am excited about this one, bc I thought it was one of those parts I'd never be able to find.

And the turn signals will work now.

These were such a hack for the American market. They took a brake switch and swapped out the pin for a brass one. But the brass pin has nothing to retain it. It stays in place, but is easy to remove. I can see how these got lost.

That's some first class arts and crafts machining. A necessary skill when fixing old crates like these.

Trying to get this thing running.

It doesn't get spark.

Scooterwest, who rebuilt the stator, said the problem is probably the gap in the ingition pickup on the stator.

Bit confused by it.

Super frustrating to have a bike all together, and have no spark.

Impact for removing, torque wrench for tightening.

I'm no help to get it running except to say that I know you'll get it. With everything else you've done, you'll figure this out.

I put it on with a torque wrench, but at the shop. It's very high torque, and required one that was like three feet long.

Guess I could buy one. One of those tools you use like twice.

No need for a 3 ft long wrench on a Vespa. A wrench that goes to 100nm is enough. Usually those are about 1ft long.

You will use it for flywheel, clutch, wheel hub, wheel nut, engine to frame…

I doubt you will use it just once or twice.

So something like this will work?

The one that the shop had was very expensive, but this is not.

Yup mine from Japan cost around $48usd. 5-100nm

Larger ones up to 250nm cost around $120. Those are long, about 2ft long.

Best get a 3/8"

If it's professional grade, probably cost more. But for the weekend warrior, basic ones are good enough. You just don't want to strip bolts or have bolts loosen on you.

That wrench will work fine with the bigger bolts. An inch/lb wrench is a good idea for the smaller bolts. I get them from Harbor Freight. They don't last all that long, but have a lifetime warranty.

I was looking for a picture of the torque wrench I bought but cannot find it. I'll post when I get home in a few days...

Thanks! I'll get a cheap-ish torque wrench.

I was looking at the ones like the shop has, and they're like $500-1500.

A smaller one, I would definitely use on everything. I used one of the ones that looks like a ratchet and clicks on all the engine bolts.

Hopefully all it needs is the correct gap for the ignition pickup.

All the parts are new/rebuilt, so it should work. Unless the flywheel is demagnetized. I didn't check that.

I will get this bike running!

Some finishing things. The switch wiring was wrong, so I had to redo it.

Everything electrical works now but the horn. Hoping the horn can be adjusted. There are a couple of screws on it.

So frustrating. I am perplexed.

I got a feeler gauge, and checked the ignition pickup. The gap is perfect, but it's not really adjustable. So the default place is correct.

But no spark. Tried with a different Femsa. No spark.

Disconnected all the junction box wires. No spark.

I guess there must be an issue with the stator, or the flywheel is demagnetized.

The flywheel does have magnets. Is demagnetization common?

Otherwise, might be the stator, but I had Scooterwest rewire and check it.

No spark is so frustrating.

Are you sure the femsa is good? Like it just came from a running scooter?

I ask this because Chris and I had a scooter not start - no spark. So we pulled a CDI off a known working scooter and bam, that was the issue. Even a brand new one could be faulty...

That's all I got. Keep at it man, you'll get it!

I have three Femsa boxes, and tried all three.

I hate electrical stuff!! It either works or it doesn't.

This is what finally pushed me to ditch the femsa. I love the look of the Rally flywheel and felt bad about ditching it, but it has to run!

I was afraid of that. Oh man... Chase down the wiring like you suggested?

It seems like the flywheel is ok. Scooterwest said they hang a 19mm flat wrench to test. The closest I have is 16, but that worked.

Do I recall that you had to splice the plug lead?

Not recommending this but, I use to (when I was young, stupid, and didn't have a pacemaker) pull the plug out so the engine will spin easy, and use the tip of my finger as the ground path from the plug lead, and kick the engine over very slowly.

could likely do the same with a multimeter.

If there is any current at all you can feel it.

I tried that. kicking it over slowly and touching the lead. There is no current at all.

I spliced the lead, and also added the old-style brass clip to the new wire.

I tried with the other Femsa boxes I have, and same.

But with the electronic ignition, on others I have. They either get spark or not. They don't ever seem to get weak spark.

Starting with the easy stuff, what order do you have the stator wires plugged into the Femsa box? Red, blue, green?

Another weird issue I had with a Rally once was I had to bring the pickup closer than gap spec (.25-3mm). As long as it isnt metal on metal right? I brought her in closer and that solved my lack of spark.

Im trying to find stator values on the R,B,G wires. That way you can ensure the wires and coils are good. Anyone with a Femsa Rally able to get resistance values? Im away for work until Tuesday.

Thank you! I'll try that!

The values might help. I need to buy a multimeter. I can probably tell if a wire is a problem that way. I hadn't thought of that.

The wires are plugged in right. I wasn't sure, but it looks right. There's a plastic clip with color names; red, blue green. and it faces forward. It's the same in the wiring diagram.

I'll try a closer gap. I guess the reason for the 0.25 - 0.3 (Scooterwest suggested) is to allow for play when the bearing wears?