Modern Vespa

This is a unique and rather rare item so I wanted to give it a wider audience since I'm guessing many members don't visit the For Sale forum often. I'd love to see an MV member get this before I put it on CL and other sites.
Details in the For Sale forum here.

Sorry for the spam.

Cheers.
Miguel

These trailers are hard to come by and they are much improved over the pav 40 or 41 the wheel is an 8 inch vespa type tires easy to acquire and the build quality is better I have pulled mine thousands of miles without any issues

Any cannon ballers use these to carry all the incidentals?

It's not a bad idea, but the support truck is much more convenient.

I'm gonna open a Go Fund Me account if anyone wishes to donate so this beauty can stay in the MV family.

Not that trailer but one of the Cub riders is hauling a trailer this year.

I prefer to toss my stuff on a support truck.

I want a photo with a dedication of Miguel taken in front of the Vespa train, I would be proud to show it to my scooter friends.

These little trailers are not only pulled by modern vespa but were originally used by vintage scooters and small motorcycles i also pull mine with a royalEnfield Himalayan

Thanks for the bump Capt!
Miguel

Unfortunately Attila, I no longer have my Vespa. But you can see a bunch of pictures here. Hope that helps!

Thanks. Miguel

The guy I bought it from pulled it behind his older BMW. Miguel

Seriously tempting, but I won't have room to store it

I love these too, but I am downsizing. Under different conditions I would be all over it.

Jess, I bought this from Bosco, just before he moved to Brazil. I didn't really know him (I'd only met him at San Jose Vespa/BMW) but he told me he needed to sell his vintage scooters and BMW as well. I presume they all went to good homes and I suspect you may know a few people that bought some of them.

Miguel

If I were younger and single I'd love to take it on a camping trip. My wife doesn't ride and hates camping.

Oh, did not know that connection! Yeah, I knew Bosco.

Well ... The one with the flags is very "Made in USA". I really admire your patriotic spirit, here the Italian flag is only seen when there are international football matches.

Cap'n Gary, that set-up looks like the cat's pajamas! I think you are well prepared for the Vespa Parade Day!

Uh, sorry for the hijack... hope that little trailer stays in the club!

Grouper, I never went camping with it but I did ride everywhere with it. I almost never took it off the bike. Longest trip I did with it was about 150 miles from Santa Cruz to San Francisco and back. I ALWAYS got attention. People just loved it. The trailer is a versatile addition to any bike and I used it to haul a bunch of stuff over the years I had it.

There's a place in the Santa Cruz Mountains called Alice's Restaurant. Every weekend, there are 10's to 100's of motorcyclist that gather there thru the weekend as a break from riding along the Summit Road. The GTV with the Inder trailer always attracted a crowd. If you haven't gone to my For Sale thread (listed in the first post above), have a look at the picture.

Cheers. Miguel

I thought I'd provide a bit of history on the Inder trailer as I know it....

Inder is an Indian company that built the trailer in the Punjab region. They were large LML dealers, which is the company in India that makes the Stella. They were available in the U.S. for Royal Enfield motorcycles but people have connected them to other powered two wheelers (PTW). I have no idea how many were imported into the US but it wasn't many. I don't know when they were first manufactured. As far as I have been able to understand, Inder stopped making the trailer in 2008 (I've forgotten where I read that years ago). Mine is a 2003 according to the tag on the bottom of the trailer. It weighs about 50 lbs empty.

The Inder was inspired by the PAV 40 and 41 trailers, built for Jawa and other motorcycles in Czechoslovakia, starting in the 1950s. The PAV trailers are no longer made either.

I bought the Inder from a guy who was an MV member but he moved to Brazil and hasn't been heard from since. Before he left, he was the sales guy and at one time the service manager for San Jose (California) Vespa/BMW/Zero Motorcycles. Prior to that he worked for Piaggio or Vespa and was, I think, the rep for the western (US) states. He had a garage full of Vintage Vespa and other scooters.

He told me he was visiting a Vespa dealer in Oregon and they had this one on a shelf. He said they gave it to him. I asked him about registering it with the DMV and he never did.

I called the California DMV about registering it. I told the woman I spoke with that it was about the size of a small shopping cart. She came back after 15 minutes on hold and said I didn't need to register it. So I didn't. I did move my Vespa license plate to the Inder to avoid suspicions. But no LEO ever gave it a second look AFAIK other than curious about it's uniqueness.

I've never seen another Inder scooter int the flesh. Over the years, a few people have posted their Vespa with an Inder and I've found a few pics on the Internet with them but they are rare indeed. Capt. Gary has had his for a number years and he was quite helpful to me in understanding what I was getting into when I bought it.

There's a few other companies that make one-wheel trailers. But none of them have the vintage look of the Inder or PAV trailer. They all lean with the bike and have a hitch that like u-joint like hinge so the trailer moves both up and down relative to the bike and pivot side-to-side for turning.

Here's a bunch of pics of both PAV and Inder trailers.
Enjoy! Miguel

Very cool pictures and info Miguel. Thanks for posting. Here is one I love. I've had this picture on my phone for a long time just because it's so cool.

I'm trying to see if I can build enough justification for this. Cannonball - so I don't have to wait for the support truck. Also, I can carry my spares up to Bar Harbor instead of shipping. This is counterweighted though by the need to ship it to MD initially, then back to MD at the end of Cannonball.

I don't really do camping anymore, but if I did I wouldn't have to borrow my spouse's van.

Can the 'lid' to the trailer be detached? If so, then I could take the dog with me on rides.

It's really silly to try to justify these kind of things though, isn't it. The justification is really just that it would be fun to have.

Thinking.

Yes.

Kim, the lid hinge is riveted on but you could drill the rivets out and use stainless steel screws in their place. If you hooked this up to your scooter and had you dog in it, you will stop traffic!!

TBH Kim, I don't think you should consider taking it on such a long trip till you've had some time riding it, especially since the ride is coming up soon. I never experience it bogging down the GTV 250cc engine but it does have a bit of sway in a strong cross winds. And since you'll be riding thru territories unknown to you, I'd recommend sticking to what's familiar at this juncture. Maybe Capt. Gary will have more to say about taking it on such a long trip across country. Hopefully he can add more to my Inder history as well.

That said, I bought it because I found it cool too, not because I thought it was practical even tho I did a number of hauling jobs with it. I viewed myself as the caretaker for this Inder, not the owner forever.

Someone will get this sooner or later. I've kept it the last year because Covid. But I do want to pair down my belongings and I don't envision using this in the future. I've considered using it behind my BMW 2001 R1100RT touring bike but they are just too different stylistically IMO. Also, I find the BMW just too big and heavy to do errands around town so I don't. Putting the trailer on it would make the bike just a little too ungainly.

Best
Miguel

Thanks. I've not see that one before. The hitch looks quite good too.
Miguel

Hmmmm. According to Google Maps, it's 22 hours and 58 minutes from Santa Fe, NM to Santa Cruz, CA avoiding interstates. Theoretically, I could make it out there and back over a weekend on the GTV to take a look at the thing. Wait - I'm not in my twenties anymore and like to use the weekends to nap. I'd probably run out of gas in the middle of the night in the middle of Nevada anyway.

Plus it will take a while to get it hitched up. Shipping is the only reasonable option and I'd have to build a box for it and I have no idea how much it would cost to ship. Someone once told me it can ship via greyhound bus but I've never looked into. Greyhound does come here tho. It will match you GTV Portofino Green perfectly. Its cost me about $150 for matching paint plus the labor. You can always give me a call and talk real-time too.

Miguel

Take the complete wheel shock and all put it inside the trailer then cardboard box let it ride the dog cheep

Brilliant! A true "Pet Carrier"! Fashion up a plexiglass windscreen and Bob's your Uncle.

I have heard good things about using your local Fastenal store to ship odd items.

https://www.fastenal.com/en/22/blue-lane-freight

Thanks Kevin. I didn't know they shipped items. We do have one close by.
Miguel

Hi Miguel, is the trailer still for sale?

It's sold. Sorry! Miguel