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The Dude
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
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The Dude
Too Many piles of Junk that need too much work and too much money
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Location: PNW from LBC
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Apologies and condolences for your loss. I'm sure those few rides were the best of their life
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63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3, 63 Lammy S3 Riverside
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63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3, 63 Lammy S3 Riverside
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That thing sounded like a absolute beast in that little facebook video. I'd love to see it wind out.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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chandlerman wrote: That thing sounded like a absolute beast in that little facebook video. I'd love to see it wind out.
Pretty sure that was BEFORE "that" exhaust!
They were still Dynoing it
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63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3, 63 Lammy S3 Riverside
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63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3, 63 Lammy S3 Riverside
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SubEtherBASS wrote: My guess is it is the fuel tank That's even better! "I know...I have this piece of safety equipment we can turn into a firebomb!" 
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63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3, 63 Lammy S3 Riverside
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63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3, 63 Lammy S3 Riverside
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SubEtherBASS wrote: Pretty sure that was BEFORE "that" exhaust!
They were still Dynoing it
What did the final dyno look like, other than "LOTS!"
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Ossessionato
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Location: Los Angeles
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OMG what a story and video!
Going to cut onions, before my wife gets back.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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GeekLion wrote: GAWDAYUM thats a beautiful machine. Rider looks like a decent fella too
I'll start a post on it... time will tell all...
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 63 VBB (Storm)
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
79 P200E (Ruby), 62 Allstate (B-62), 63 VBB (Storm)
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SubEtherBASS wrote: I'll start a post on it... time will tell all... Excellent. It's a badass looking machine. I'm sorry about your friend. F-ng life - beautiful and tragic....
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1997 Italjet Formula 125, 2 matching N.Z. '69 VBC Super, 177cc Racer, VespaCross Bodge, Puch SRA150, Piaggio Zip 100! & others
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Two engines 
Built a bike he knew would never be street legal in Germany.
"I had to come on the bus."
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2 - Many
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2 - Many
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For me it depends on the scooter. My 64 GS 160 motor had never been opened and needed a rebuild.
I could have gone the electronic ignition, GS piston, etc but decided on as close to original as possible so it was bored to first oversized (a new top end might have been cheaper) and kept the points.
On others I have done unspeakable things like cutting up a repaired original GL mudguard to fit with a full front hydraulic disc on a 67 GT rat.
It's all fun!
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63 GL, 62 VBB, 05 Stella, 66 Smallstate, 66 Lammy S3, 63 Lammy S3 Riverside
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When it comes to the question of what to do with any particular scooter, everyone's answer is someone's wrong answer.
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Ossessionato
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
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Ossessionato
Vespas 1964 GS160, 1965 SS180, 1977 V9A1T, 1983 PX150E
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Staying original, you can't ever go wrong.
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Molto Verboso
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Molto Verboso
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qascooter wrote: My feeling on the subject is Refurbish vs Restore. I use the term refurbish because to Restore is to bring it back to original - which could never happen if you paint it, especially with two stage paint.
Bottom line is I like to see these beautiful pieces of art and functionality on the road, still doing what they were meant to do - move us around, in style.
The perfectionist in me wants to take out every dent, polish everything, make everything mechanically perfect. But I just look at my own body - dents, dings, not near as flashy as days of old, but still running, thank you very much.
These beauties are getting harder find running. I had a dude at the gas station yesterday stop, get out of his car, and ask me
"You wanna sell your Allstate?"
My answer "No".
Then he says: "Come on man - name your price. You don't see those on the road any more!".
My answer: "Thanks buddy, but it's not for sale".
See - they are getting rare....
I really connect with your point of view here. I have another hobby next to scooters and thats collecting Star Wars toys and things i had in the 70's and 80's. One carded figure i have is worth and sells regularly for £1000.00 and my wife is always on at me to sell it and my philosophy regarding things you are passionate about is, you can reprint money but you cant reprint your vintage scooter or the things you love that are actually very rare to get hold of. Those who die with the most toys wins in my opinion.
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1987 PK125XL Elestart, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2024 GTS 300
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Veni, Vidi, Posti
1979 P150X, 1983 P200E, 1987 PK125XL Elestart, 1988 T5, 1995 PX200E, 2024 GTS 300
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For me, it depends on the condition. Unfortunately, most of the Vespas that were sold in Greece, were used and abused cause their owners saw them as workhorses and nothing more. Also, most shops didn't want to work with them so motors, electrics, etc. were heavily bodged...
I see the Vespas you find on your side of the pond and I'll tell you one thing. You're very LUCKY!!!
There's no way to easily find an original color Vespa or anything older than a P/PX here, since a lot of older models were thrown away as scrap metal, exported or restored. One more problem here is that even if you find one, if the original papers / plate are not present, game over. You can't re-register a vehicle here cause of our stupid laws...
So for me, I prefer a nut and bolt restoration instead of riding an abused Vespa. Of course, I'll try to source as much NOS parts as possible but definitely upgrade to 12V, tubeless and some performance parts for the motor...
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